Lol, that makes more sense.

Ive never used a FAC air rifle but had a few at 12ft/lbs. 35yards is the furthest I would go to group consistently and be sure of a clean kill, but the target would need to be still, with excellent conditions. Generally I would go up to 30yards.

Sitting in the back garden though I can get 40yard sub 1inchers using my Air Arms S400 but that needs to be on optimum pressure charge as it isnt regulated and with a solid rest.

 

Anyone used a Stalker FAC? Up to 220ft/lbs with a .30 slug, powered by air!

Thats more than you get with a live rimfire round.

 

You have to obtain a licence to leagally shoot birds. Not sure about rats but I would just shoot them anyway.

 

always like using this on rats myself,

 

The only thing you need to obtain, legally, is the land owners permission. Unless the bird in question is on the protected list or you are shooting game (which would be daft with any air powered gun) that are not in season.

 

No get a flamethrower.

 

I do like that...been thinking of an air rifle or pistol or maybe (re)starting clay shooting

 

What? So you can kill it, cook it, eat it at the same time?

 

That is a cracking pistol but for that money I would personally look for this or preferably the EB17 (.177 higher velocity)

http://www.wighillparkguns.co.uk/pro....asp?prod=1761

You can probably get one cheaper if you look around as well.

 

http://www.theoben.co.uk/product.php...&cat=19&page=1

Geoff.

 

Here is my baby

 

oh yes.

 

Detrater what is your range with that and muzzle velocity with a 14grain pellet?

 

where can you buy one these air rifles with 30 ft lb? what do you need as 12 ft lb is the legal limit? i live in leeds

 

An FAC which is getting harder and harder to get hold of. It is easier to get a shotgun license. You need to be squeaky clean, references, enough land to deem it necessary to need/require a FAC and a genuine need for the license on that land. Then theres security and subsequent police checks.

 

an FAC - firearms cert.

http://www.theoben.co.uk/product.php...&cat=19&page=1

 

Why would you want/need one with 30ft/lbs?

 

to shhot over a long range, have a diane 52, 12 ft ( susposed ) like to get more distance out of shot when i go shooting, i said 30 ft Ib but less would be ok

 

anyone any thing for sale?

 

One of the main advantages is the flatter trajectories. They dont make them more accurate necessarily but give a much flatter trajectory which is a major plus. If you are hunting there is the added advantage of increased energy being imparted on your quarry but as rabbits (the largest of quarry for airgunners) only require 4ft/lbs of energy with a head shot it shouldnt be regarded as an excuse to hunt over longer distances.

 

About 750 - 800 fps and I can group at 40 meters, that is the gun has a straight trajectory from 20-40 meters, so it is zeroed at that all the time. obviously go back to 60 meters and aim high, but I'm no good at that.

 

What FAC rated? Do you have an FAC?

 

The hardest thing I found trying to get fac, was getting land permission. The first bit of land a farmer allowed me on, was rejected as unsafe for fac by the feo on his inspection, the second one and the only permission on my fac, was already approved, I stated my resaon for needing a fac as vermin and rabbits and job done.

 

You will go directly to jail my friend.

 

He didn't even know what one was and then asks if anyone has an FAC airgun for sale after your thorough explanation of what it was and how difficult it is to get one

 

Thats it, if you have nothing to hide and genuinely have a valid reason for one then there isnt a reason why you would have a problem getting one.

 

I like the look of this

http://www.wighillparkguns.co.uk/pro....asp?prod=2221

 

They are nice, this is the one I have. Solid build, handles well. Wish it had a little more power but as semi autos go these are about as good as they get.

http://www.drapers-airguns.co.uk/aca...TS_Co2_39.html

 

got me thinking now...would be limited to the back garden for target practising..no?

 

Back garden multi target is its territory. If you want more precise target shooting I would prefer the Sheridan 17. Much higher velocity and powerful single shot.