Police brutality on film...
08 September 2010, 08:35 AM
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One of my mates turned up to a domestic argument where a tiny pensioner tried to glass him. Age is irrelevant, as is weight.
In every incident I've been to, it's the women who are more unpredictable and fight dirtier.
Yes.
She would have been told words to the effect of:
"I believe that you have committed a road traffic offence and as a consequence I require you to provide a specimen of breath. I must warn you that failing to provide a specimen when requested is anoffence for which you will be arrested".
In every incident I've been to, it's the women who are more unpredictable and fight dirtier.
Yes.
She would have been told words to the effect of:
"I believe that you have committed a road traffic offence and as a consequence I require you to provide a specimen of breath. I must warn you that failing to provide a specimen when requested is anoffence for which you will be arrested".
08 September 2010, 08:54 AM
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Her injury and treatment probably took her over the 24 hour clock in custody, so they could not charge. Or they decided not to pursue it as the assault took precedence.
He was bang out of order and deserved to be jailed. Dragging her to the cell was bad enough let alone throwing her on the floor. Doesn’t matter what sort of a bad day you are having, you can’t do this.
There were enough people in custody to take her to a cell properly. We have extensive training for situations like this, all based on taking them to a cell under control and with no injuries.
He was bang out of order and deserved to be jailed. Dragging her to the cell was bad enough let alone throwing her on the floor. Doesn’t matter what sort of a bad day you are having, you can’t do this.
There were enough people in custody to take her to a cell properly. We have extensive training for situations like this, all based on taking them to a cell under control and with no injuries.
08 September 2010, 08:54 AM
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Her injury and treatment probably took her over the 24 hour clock in custody, so they could not charge. Or they decided not to pursue it as the assault took precedence.
He was bang out of order and deserved to be jailed. Dragging her to the cell was bad enough let alone throwing her on the floor. Doesn’t matter what sort of a bad day you are having, you can’t do this.
There were enough people in custody to take her to a cell properly. We have extensive training for situations like this, all based on taking them to a cell under control and with no injuries.
He was bang out of order and deserved to be jailed. Dragging her to the cell was bad enough let alone throwing her on the floor. Doesn’t matter what sort of a bad day you are having, you can’t do this.
There were enough people in custody to take her to a cell properly. We have extensive training for situations like this, all based on taking them to a cell under control and with no injuries.
08 September 2010, 09:06 AM
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08 September 2010, 09:19 AM
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It showed a flaw in the police sergeant's make up which should preclude him from being in the job.
Quite unnececessary to use that kind of violence with no regard whatsoever for her personal safety. She did not appear to be resisting to me if a bit slow on her feet.
The blood was pouring onto the floor in the cell.
He is not fit for the job.
Les
Quite unnececessary to use that kind of violence with no regard whatsoever for her personal safety. She did not appear to be resisting to me if a bit slow on her feet.
The blood was pouring onto the floor in the cell.
He is not fit for the job.
Les
To those that say she deserved it or that throwing what is basically a little old lady face first into the floor is acceptable behaviour - how would you feel if the same copper did it to your son or daughter or wife after a night out?
Not had many run ins with the police but having been on the wrong end of them once its amazing how easy they lie and get away with it.
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08 September 2010, 07:07 PM
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Maybe she raised the statutory defence to in charge while over the limit /unfit.
In those circumstances CPS give the authority to charge.
CPS make that decision based on the evidence available from police / what the arrestee says and then apply the public interest test.
If they believe her account regarding the statutory defence, then no case is made out, and CPS will not authorise charge.
With regards your comment, it is CPS who drop charges, not police.
Police make the decision to take no further action before charge.
As was said earlier, bloke isn't fit to do the job,as he has now discovered.
09 September 2010, 03:01 PM
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Because of the blood........
No blood, nothing would have been said/done about it.
Like i said, this stuff happens all the time, i know a few lads who have been kicked about by coppers, including our lasses uncle, and he is a fecking Managing Director for a large company in Hull
hardly some toerag, and neither was he drunk like they tried to say he was, as part of some pig-justification.I always suggest that if you are arrested, its pointless going on like a ********, because you will just get battered.
09 September 2010, 03:40 PM
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09 September 2010, 03:50 PM
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09 September 2010, 04:00 PM
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Shhhh.....I've never had to actually hit anyone or kick them. I did spray one chap with CS, but he was resisting arrest and had almost ripped my colleague out of his body armour.
His daughter (about 15 years old) saw this and was in tears. She kept repeating "Is he ok? Is he ok?"
I picked myself up off the floor, walked to her and said, through a lot of sneezing, coughing and spluttering "He'll be fine in about 15 minutes, it only stings".
To which she replied words to the effect of "Not that ****ing ********! I mean my guinea pig"
That retort made my night
09 September 2010, 04:19 PM
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Shhhh.....I've never been caught actually hitting anyone or kicking them. I did spray one chap with CS, but he was resisting arrest and had almost ripped my colleague out of his body armour.
His daughter (about 15 years old) saw this and was in tears. She kept repeating "Is he ok? Is he ok?"
I picked myself up off the floor, walked to her and said, through a lot of sneezing, coughing and spluttering "He'll be fine in about 15 minutes, it only stings".
To which she replied words to the effect of "Not that ****ing ********! I mean my guinea pig"
That retort made my night
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14 September 2010, 11:46 PM
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15 September 2010, 08:58 AM
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Oh well - the Sergeant has been freed on bail pending appeal. He was inside for a whole six days.
What is the basis of his appeal - she slipped on a spilt cup of tea?
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What is the basis of his appeal - she slipped on a spilt cup of tea?
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I knew this good news story would end up having a sad end !
15 September 2010, 09:29 AM
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Very foolish to give the police any aggro if they arrest you. No reason why you cannot speak up for yourself though.
All depends on their reasons of course, if you have been making a fool of yourself in any way or been breaking the law then you can't complain unless they start to go over the top. Becoming violent is a big mistake.
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All depends on their reasons of course, if you have been making a fool of yourself in any way or been breaking the law then you can't complain unless they start to go over the top. Becoming violent is a big mistake.
Les
15 September 2010, 10:14 AM
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15 September 2010, 11:00 AM
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There is no justifiction for the officers behavior,but drunken/drugged up women are more dangerous then men,if a bloke has a go at me he gets a slap if its a woman my moral code stops me.Has anyone found out anything about the woman,previous etc.Ps if you are s--t faced facial wounds bleed bad because booze thins blood down.
15 September 2010, 11:25 AM
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From what I've read in various papers, she admits that she had been having an argument with a member of staff in a mobile phone companies call centre, and had been arguing with her partner. She then stormed out of the house and called her daughter to say she was driving to her place to stay the night.
It gets a little unclear after that.
For some reason she stopped her car only a short distance away from her own house and her mobile battery died.
She decided to then sleep in her car as it was dark and she was scared to walk home in the dark in case she was attacked, even though it sounds as if she was only a couple of hundred meters away, plus she didn't want to go back to save face, as she had stormed out, leaving her partner behind.
Just to make it slightly more confusing, when spoken to by the law, she told them the car battery was dead as she had left the heating running all night to keep her warm. However, she had also left the window down, which I would have thought would have let the heat escape and anyone wanting to attack her, get in to the vehicle with her or reach her, which is probably more dangerous than if she'd locked the vehicle up and walked home, or just driven it home, or continued to her daughter's house.
That makes me think that her story doesn't add up.
Why would anyone who is scared leave the windows down and go to sleep?
If she's capable of arguing with a stranger in a call centre, I'd see the chances of her arguing with a custody sergeant just as likely.
I've seen people try to argue with the sergeants and detention officers and it's a waste of time. They can make your stay with them as uncomfortable as they can whilst staying within the law and complying with PACE.
The sergeant in this case, for whatever reason, has obviously breached all of PACE and the other laws, and isn't suitable for the job, however, I'd like to know what made him snap if he did indeed snap, as I am sure that he is used to having argumental detainees in front of him all of the time.
It gets a little unclear after that.
For some reason she stopped her car only a short distance away from her own house and her mobile battery died.
She decided to then sleep in her car as it was dark and she was scared to walk home in the dark in case she was attacked, even though it sounds as if she was only a couple of hundred meters away, plus she didn't want to go back to save face, as she had stormed out, leaving her partner behind.
Just to make it slightly more confusing, when spoken to by the law, she told them the car battery was dead as she had left the heating running all night to keep her warm. However, she had also left the window down, which I would have thought would have let the heat escape and anyone wanting to attack her, get in to the vehicle with her or reach her, which is probably more dangerous than if she'd locked the vehicle up and walked home, or just driven it home, or continued to her daughter's house.
That makes me think that her story doesn't add up.
Why would anyone who is scared leave the windows down and go to sleep?
If she's capable of arguing with a stranger in a call centre, I'd see the chances of her arguing with a custody sergeant just as likely.
I've seen people try to argue with the sergeants and detention officers and it's a waste of time. They can make your stay with them as uncomfortable as they can whilst staying within the law and complying with PACE.
The sergeant in this case, for whatever reason, has obviously breached all of PACE and the other laws, and isn't suitable for the job, however, I'd like to know what made him snap if he did indeed snap, as I am sure that he is used to having argumental detainees in front of him all of the time.
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15 September 2010, 11:48 AM
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The sergeant in this case, for whatever reason, has obviously breached all of PACE and the other laws, and isn't suitable for the job, however, I'd like to know what made him snap, as I am sure that he is used to having argumental detainees in front of him all of the time.
.So long as the guy maintains the "slipped on a tea spill" line I guess we'll never know why he slam dunked the bint.
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From what I've read in various papers, she admits that she had been having an argument with a member of staff in a mobile phone companies call centre, and had been arguing with her partner. She then stormed out of the house and called her daughter to say she was driving to her place to stay the night.
It gets a little unclear after that.
For some reason she stopped her car only a short distance away from her own house and her mobile battery died.
She decided to then sleep in her car as it was dark and she was scared to walk home in the dark in case she was attacked, even though it sounds as if she was only a couple of hundred meters away, plus she didn't want to go back to save face, as she had stormed out, leaving her partner behind.
Just to make it slightly more confusing, when spoken to by the law, she told them the car battery was dead as she had left the heating running all night to keep her warm. However, she had also left the window down, which I would have thought would have let the heat escape and anyone wanting to attack her, get in to the vehicle with her or reach her, which is probably more dangerous than if she'd locked the vehicle up and walked home, or just driven it home, or continued to her daughter's house.
That makes me think that her story doesn't add up.
Why would anyone who is scared leave the windows down and go to sleep?
If she's capable of arguing with a stranger in a call centre, I'd see the chances of her arguing with a custody sergeant just as likely.
I've seen people try to argue with the sergeants and detention officers and it's a waste of time. They can make your stay with them as uncomfortable as they can whilst staying within the law and complying with PACE.
The sergeant in this case, for whatever reason, has obviously breached all of PACE and the other laws, and isn't suitable for the job, however, I'd like to know what made him snap if he did indeed snap, as I am sure that he is used to having argumental detainees in front of him all of the time.
It gets a little unclear after that.
For some reason she stopped her car only a short distance away from her own house and her mobile battery died.
She decided to then sleep in her car as it was dark and she was scared to walk home in the dark in case she was attacked, even though it sounds as if she was only a couple of hundred meters away, plus she didn't want to go back to save face, as she had stormed out, leaving her partner behind.
Just to make it slightly more confusing, when spoken to by the law, she told them the car battery was dead as she had left the heating running all night to keep her warm. However, she had also left the window down, which I would have thought would have let the heat escape and anyone wanting to attack her, get in to the vehicle with her or reach her, which is probably more dangerous than if she'd locked the vehicle up and walked home, or just driven it home, or continued to her daughter's house.
That makes me think that her story doesn't add up.
Why would anyone who is scared leave the windows down and go to sleep?
If she's capable of arguing with a stranger in a call centre, I'd see the chances of her arguing with a custody sergeant just as likely.
I've seen people try to argue with the sergeants and detention officers and it's a waste of time. They can make your stay with them as uncomfortable as they can whilst staying within the law and complying with PACE.
The sergeant in this case, for whatever reason, has obviously breached all of PACE and the other laws, and isn't suitable for the job, however, I'd like to know what made him snap if he did indeed snap, as I am sure that he is used to having argumental detainees in front of him all of the time.
Anyway if she was pissed and slept in the car is that a crime as such?