STi 5 OEM HARDWARE'S MAPPED BHP POTENTIAL...???
02 July 2010, 11:58 AM
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Still back to joz's original post I still think that a MAFless ecu such as Simtek is the right solution. There is no doubt that it will fully earn its place on the spec he has lined up. it would be silly to pay for oe remap then have to do the same for a full remap on simtek when he makes the decision to change. Will save all the maf issues as to whether they are reliable, will stretch that far etc etc
04 July 2010, 03:04 PM
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To that end is it a case of the later, the better? e.g. would a MY08 hatch's one work on a STi 5/6, and be even better?
For c.£100 vs potential £000's/hassle, it's a no-brainer.
Do Import Car Parts stock them?
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04 July 2010, 04:11 PM
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If I decide to retain OEM ECU and get EcuTek'd, then prior to the map, I will replace the MAF for a replacement brand new "stripe/post-'05" one as a matter of course, for peace of mind.
To that end is it a case of the later, the better? e.g. would a MY08 hatch's one work on a STi 5/6, and be even better?
To that end is it a case of the later, the better? e.g. would a MY08 hatch's one work on a STi 5/6, and be even better?
For c.£100 vs potential £000's/hassle, it's a no-brainer.
And that's assuming that the newage sensors are perfectly reliable, which they're not - they still occasionally fail. And on that score I doubt anyone's run any surveys on the comparative reliability of the green stripe vs newage sensor either.
Given that you're thinking of moving to an aftermarket ECU at some point, if you are going to replace your current airflow meter prior-to, the only sensible option appears to be a new green stripe. Although, as I think I've said elsewhere, if you are thinking of going Simtek in the medium term, I can't argue with the logic of those who've already suggested you do so sooner rather than later.
Do Import Car Parts stock them?
99-00 part, and, for price comparison, newage part
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04 July 2010, 05:59 PM
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Os sorry, I got the wrong end of the stick...
I thought that the "stripe/p2006>on" MAF was a New Age design (Hawkeye) that happened to fit the MY99/00 and worked straight out the box, as it were.
But what you're saying is that it's still a MY99/00 - just that it was manufactured by FHI from 2006 onwards as a upgraded part designed for the MY99/00, and happens to be more reliable than the original pre-2006 manufactured MY99/00 ones? Is this right?
So original MY99/00 "green dot" = c.£100?
Upgraded MY99/00 "stripe/2006>on" = c.£200?
I thought that the "stripe/p2006>on" MAF was a New Age design (Hawkeye) that happened to fit the MY99/00 and worked straight out the box, as it were.
But what you're saying is that it's still a MY99/00 - just that it was manufactured by FHI from 2006 onwards as a upgraded part designed for the MY99/00, and happens to be more reliable than the original pre-2006 manufactured MY99/00 ones? Is this right?
So original MY99/00 "green dot" = c.£100?
Upgraded MY99/00 "stripe/2006>on" = c.£200?
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04 July 2010, 06:08 PM
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So original MY99/00 "green dot" = c.£100?
Upgraded MY99/00 "stripe/post 2006" = c."200?
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04 July 2010, 06:18 PM
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Got it! 
Great that the replacement MY99/00 "stripe/2006>" one is still c.£100! This is the point I was trying to make about replacing my existing one of unknown condition for a brand new one vs running the risk re engine detting due to my existing one's failure, etc. - as suggested by yourself! - for £100.
It was my confusion mentioning (wrongly!) "...New Age MAF..." - therefore which would have been c.£200 - that subsequently "confused" you re. your reply to that question.
Great that the replacement MY99/00 "stripe/2006>" one is still c.£100! This is the point I was trying to make about replacing my existing one of unknown condition for a brand new one vs running the risk re engine detting due to my existing one's failure, etc. - as suggested by yourself! - for £100.
It was my confusion mentioning (wrongly!) "...New Age MAF..." - therefore which would have been c.£200 - that subsequently "confused" you re. your reply to that question.
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04 July 2010, 06:25 PM
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So by "default", the one in the link below is the "stripe/2006>" one that's a direct replacement for a MY99/00 car:-
http://www.importcarparts.co.uk/part...en=&searchKey=
14 July 2010, 07:39 PM
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The green stripe sensors aren't chocolate, they're pretty good, all things considered.
Of course. Provided you can source a sensor with the correct sort of flow range, and provided you can (get someone with the ability to) rescale the voltage to mass airflow lookup table in the ECU, you can use any sensor you want.
Is this correct that you can run a newage MAF on a classic ? never heard that before.
15 January 2011, 11:59 PM
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Does anyone know the ballpark area that the STi 5's VF28/440cc/TMIC combo maxes out at, post mapping?
I'm guessing the TMIC is (marginally) the limiting factor out of the 3 and no doubt caps things at c.330bhp ???
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my type r made 327 bhp with the above spec plus tubular headers and sti 8 tmic
I'm guessing the TMIC is (marginally) the limiting factor out of the 3 and no doubt caps things at c.330bhp ???
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my type r made 327 bhp with the above spec plus tubular headers and sti 8 tmic
