no mate they were a pre cursor to the RUC now PSNI. They adopted a beat the **** outta you first ask question later. sadly missing in these times.

The "black" he was referring to was the Royal Black Preceptory. think of them like a kind of "SuperProd".

see Royal Black Institution

 

Ahh, it can all be a bit confusing at times, even for a jock like me

 

we are a complex, bigoted, sectarian, racist nation. we just hate everybody

 

lol, well as long as you hate everybody equally you cant be accused of being racist then.

 

Everybody is treated the same dunk
We're consistent if nothing else and memories like elephants
We've held one grudge for many hundred years now too

 

only one person guilty and they resided at no10

 

Edward Heath?

 

It is sad that anyone loses their life,the report kept lawyers, fat cats busy,who came up with this? well done blair you t--t.Do you know all the top insurgance then are now leaders and politicians,strange that also one high and mighty member admited to be holding a machine gun but was not going to use it,( f--k off he is responsible for many deaths)

 

Nr Ireland was a way of getting back at the English Government,the Handfull of tw-ts had the backing of American Irish who were up to pumping cash in to help their hate!! but along the way it turned into maffia money making spin,nothing to do with England we were in the way of some fat cats profit,the people were pawns they sadly got killed in the game leaving control to aaaaaah the insurgance yet again

 

How very ironic.

 

ERA,

What is even more ironic is that the "supposed" orangemen who march every year and those ardent followers of the flute bands have absolutely no idea about the heritage they are marching for. it is a 2 day holiday period in july that is seen as middle finger to the catholic community at large in northern ireland. 2 days to get blocked and chant sectarian songs.

Having said that the catholics get back at the prods on Hibernian day in August so it is swings and round abouts.

I am sorry to say Northern Ireland will always be a divided nation

 

To be honest there are divisions in most religions. Religion which is supposed to bind people together becomes the very thing which separates us.

 

sorry, too deep for me at this time of the morning, wait till i have had my porridge and coffee

 

It's crossed my mind a few times as to whether we should give NI to the Irish who may just have a historical right to the place but then lease it back to us for a couple of hundred years rather like the Hong Kong/China scenario. So the Irish might relax knowing it was "their" country but we would carry on as normal.

dl

 

But I am not "Irish". why would i want to live in a foreign country?

 

Because from a practical point of view you would live in a country with a British passport called NI with less chance of being blown up. dl

 

i have more chance of being blown up in London than Belfast FFS.

 

<religious rant>

I have said it before on another thread. I am an Atheist and religion is an anachronism in modern society. I make my own bed and lie in it. Pure and simple. Everything that happens to me is a result of my actions and I take full responsibility for that.

Sure some people might get some comfort from religion in their time of need but scratch below the shiny veneer of religion and you will find fear, guilt, intolerance, ignorance and abuse.

I don’t care if we are talking about Catholics vs Protestants or Islamics vs (erm) everyone else it seems…. Human nature is so f***ed up that violence and death is sure to follow some where along the line…. All in the name of religion... which of course affects me whether I like it or not.... then there's the kiddie fiddlers both Catholic and others. WTF is that all about?

What a sad & FUBAR way to live our lives.

P.S. I don’t care what shape, size colour, creed etc you are. If I like you, then great.. If I think you are a **** you’ll know. That’s the way it should be.

</end rand>

 

+1 to All of the above, take the religion out of people and the world would be a safer place

 

How do you propose to do that then.

Do you advocate religious persecution?

Les

 

BURN THEM!

 

I dont propose to do anything.

I advocate the right to live my life without fear of some religious f,cking nut job taking it away for their own beliefs.

 

have one god/emperor, with an army of super soldiers who will destroy any and all xeno life forms who will not bask in the light of His truth.

 

My god is bigger than your god.

 

I know your taking the pi$$ and joking with this, but this is alot of the problem. get rid of God full stop problem solved, but people are little more than sheep easily led to the slaughter.

 

You are pushing on an open door with me.... I'll add a big fat +1 to the last couple of your posts here

 

I don't think it's quite that simple. Remove religion and something else will fill the void. It's human nature and ultimately a form of tribalism and belonging. In the same way as it is not the gun that kills but the finger that pulls the trigger, it is the people not the religion.

 

Swerving off course for a second, maybe this is what 2012 and the global shift in consciousness is supposed to be about?

Something has got to change!

 

Warhammer 40K - in the future there is only war.

tv and religion - opiate of the masses

 

Karl Marx, even he saw the role religion played in society.