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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dynamix
Last year at Oulton i was very nervous around 1 sector of the lap (ie the part I crashed at in 2008) l.
i was behind you going through lodge and if you were nervous, i wouldnt like to be following you when you are full of confidence

all be it i was about 200hp down on you and in a borrowed car. but you were still doing a good job.

what is your best on full curcuit at oulton duncan, as i have done oulton many many times in my own car and could gauge my own best times but only full curcuit, it was the first time i ever done the ta oulton curcuit last year round 1
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 10:41 PM
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kev bev is a fantastic pilot, many people are in the opinion if kev were dedicated enough and had the funding a driving career is a serious possibility. he is a very very aggressive driver. the clinic love havin him on the team, hes definateley their no1 driver when andy mckenna not around. if he can get this car built ill have some money on him

how big is the jump going to be for you to club pro? you went up on the 5% rule so you must be on club pro pace. your engine spec must be up to speed and once the car is stripped to weight it should just be down to best man wins are'nt most of the competetive club pro cars around 500-600 bhp. will you be taking your own guys to do your support or will you still be with zen?
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 10:50 PM
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Good luck Duncan Club Pro is looking a bit better this year... more cars etc

Has Jon Beach moved up too?
Nope. I'm still club. Still got the standard 2 ltr engine internals, almost full weight, and around 400bhp, so get to stay in club. I'm also not sticking a cage in the car. It makes it too difficult to put two child seats in the back

Having said that.... I'm not actually doing TA this year. Might do Oulton as a OHW as it's local, but probably no others. I can't afford the expense of the whole season. Maybe next year.

I think the BTCC car that Duncan talked about earlier is a Duxbury car too, but it's club as far as I know. Robin's wife will be driving it.
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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Ex-BTCC Honda isn't it?

Saw some pics on MLR
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 11:07 PM
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Yeah thats the one, ex Halfords team. Goes pretty well I have heard. It's been fully broken down and rebuilt from scratch. Some engine mods too as touring car power isn't enough.
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by utaka
how big is the jump going to be for you to club pro? you went up on the 5% rule so you must be on club pro pace. your engine spec must be up to speed and once the car is stripped to weight it should just be down to best man wins are'nt most of the competetive club pro cars around 500-600 bhp. will you be taking your own guys to do your support or will you still be with zen?
I have not gone up on the 5% rule as explained earlier I was within 5% twice not the 3 times as per the rules.

The step up is big and the winner in that class last year was in the ex RC developments stripped out race car I think running a lot more than my 550 bhp (as were second, third and fourth too). None of them are in it this year so it is difficult to know what/who will be quickest.

I have no 'guys' of my own and Zen aren't providing support this year so I will rely on friends and volunteers in the pits but will continue to do all/almost all of the work on the car myself. It will meet the regs but will not be a featherweight race car like some.
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 11:16 PM
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 11:29 PM
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ah right i did'nt know it was 3 times, twice is damd close though, which tracks were they out of interest?
be interesting to see how my car compares with the touring car?
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dynamix
I was within 5% of the fastest club pro car/driver at two events last year (Silverstone and Snetterton)
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 07:08 AM
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Cheers again to Tim (Subbus) for the stainless welding yesterday

I now have charge temperatures fully loggable and running this for the temperature compensations rather than just a gauge. Quite interesting to actually record how well the massive APS fmic is working.

Cage construction is scheduled for after the Marham 30-130 day so I will take a day or so to strip the interior and get it ready for them. SHP Motorsport will be building it again (they build my bolt in cage before which is now in Steve Fulbrooks car)

They will be building a full MSA spec weld in cage and painting the full interior to make it look spangly. It should offer some much needed chassis rigidity too which will be useful.
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by dynamix

I now have charge temperatures fully loggable and running this for the temperature compensations rather than just a gauge. Quite interesting to actually record how well the massive APS fmic is working.
How well IS the APS fmic cooling the air as i have one myself and i'd like to know it was worth all the money
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dynamix
Cheers again to Tim (Subbus) for the stainless welding yesterday

I now have charge temperatures fully loggable and running this for the temperature compensations rather than just a gauge. Quite interesting to actually record how well the massive APS fmic is working.

Cage construction is scheduled for after the Marham 30-130 day so I will take a day or so to strip the interior and get it ready for them. SHP Motorsport will be building it again (they build my bolt in cage before which is now in Steve Fulbrooks car)

They will be building a full MSA spec weld in cage and painting the full interior to make it look spangly. It should offer some much needed chassis rigidity too which will be useful.
is that in mine after the lead filling !!! lol
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Granby
How well IS the APS fmic cooling the air as i have one myself and i'd like to know it was worth all the money
It is worth the money
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 08:28 PM
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Why not compare it to the Hybrid at a fraction of the cost with the APS ?
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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I'm sure if you donated one to Duncan he would glady compare the Hybrid to the APS...
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 09:17 PM
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I don't have time to test on my car unfortunately. i know the hybrid core works very well though as I believe that is what Paul had on the zen green car and that wasnt shy of power.

It is very interesting to see how efficient the intercooler really is with data logged at 100 times a second on temperatures under high boost situations. Obviously being cold out at the moment helps the baseline figure but the rate of increase would remain through a range of conditions.

I will do some definitive datalogs and publish them for varying boost levels.
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by harvey
Why not compare it to the Hybrid at a fraction of the cost with the APS ?
Would be a good opportunity to lose some weight Dunc
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 10:11 PM
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Works on the Banana

APS core IS built like a brick **** house though
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 10:19 PM
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nice and heavy then
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by utaka
nice and heavy then
Just a little bit
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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 07:26 PM
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My tube and fin Hybrid outperforms the bar and plate APS with a weight saving to boot. The STi 6 Wagon runs the APS and the other two cars run Hybrid.
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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 07:33 PM
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I did weigh my APS DR725 ages ago and from memory it was in excess of 15kg... ideal if i fancy bulldozering something down
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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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anyway, thanks for the offer Harvey but I wont be swapping stuff that works for stuff that works - no time for that.

Minimal preparation and running last years power (and the same as 2008 too) will be the name of the game to benchmark myself in the new class and see what needs to be done. Maybe later in the season work will be done to get power up but I don't think power is the name of the game. Maybe I have been around Paul and the Zen Performance team for too long but they never needed huge power to deliver great times. I 100% agree with the way they did it.

The car goes in for cage install next week - should take it til the end of the month to be sorted and possibly ready for a final test before Oulton Park in new lighter trim.

Doors and glass will be replaced with new lightweight items/polycarbonate, along with stripping some of the interior trim out (or all of it) - this should free up enough weight to ofset the steelwork going in.
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You'll be looking to purchase a new daily driver soon then
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You'll be looking to purchase a new daily driver soon then
yes

mind you I have been loving driving mine so much recently I need to get a daily driver cos I am getting just a little bit too erm 'spirited' in it
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Could you not get yourself a 500bhp classic to toy with as a daily driver
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Originally Posted by dynamix
I don't think power is the name of the game.


Doors and glass will be replaced with new lightweight items/polycarbonate, along with stripping some of the interior trim out (or all of it) - this should free up enough weight to ofset the steelwork going in.
very true duncan.

the offset didnt work quite enough for me regarding cage, but then again mine is an ra classic so the trim and ancilularys will prob be lighter on mine i think. however there are so many things you can loose if you put your mind to it. regarding weight.

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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 09:41 PM
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I am not going to be taking it to the nth degree - there isnt enough time at this stage but the weight from the doors and glass should more than compensate for the cage and leave it at about 1350 kgs in fighting weight.
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Could you not get yourself a 500bhp classic to toy with as a daily driver
and have two money pits ?
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Originally Posted by dynamix
and have two money pits ?


I have read/heard E85 is being removed form stores. will you still use it or will you cut back % and maybe go meth route?
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