subarus are hated due to the look and the owners who drive them,,,,, you can have 10 good drivers but 1 driver doing donuts in tescos or flying down bus lanes in a car that,,,,, we they aint exactly subtle are they !!!

thats why as its stands out,,, bmw M3 and Audi S3 ect dont,, they blend in and you even hear subarus when they are comming,,, even from my office i hear the one that passes at 9am every morning,,,dont hear any other cars tbh and when i tried to sneek my car in the privilged parking spot at work,,,,,, i had security come to my desk as i was known as " the subaru owner" yet my college with the MK5 GTI was parked there all the time !!

 

oh another way to give a example...... would you drive your subaru to a funeral or a job interveiw ?

 

I agree with Paulo p , I had Orion 1.6i ghia,xr2, xr3, xr4x 4(2.8 & 2.9),and 2 x cossies over 20 years ago, and I never cared what people thought then, i never bought a car to pose in or go cruising ,they were bought to be driven hard - and they were.
Now I am over 40 - nothing has changed , if anyone is worried about there image when driving a car then they need to sell it, end of. A lot of police forces now use scoobies, mainly for there sheer pace and the image it gives to a car they are pursuing the right image. Just my opinion that's all, also paulo:
sapphire cosworth - discreet hooligans car.
3 dr rs cosworth - proffesional hooligans car

I had one of each, big power,no grip & rwd 1 of the best cars I have ever owned.

 

Ginge don't know why you say they are hated ,as most people I know love them, and I have yet to meet anyone who is not overwhelmed by the sheer pace of these cars after there 1st time driving one including my 70 year old father( who is no speed freak). I don't know where you live , but most of the idiots doing doughnuts in my local tesco 's were young lads driving saxo's,Clio's,corsa's & fiesta's ,and when they see you want to race.
I also own a Honda civic and if I was going for a job interview I would not hessitate to drive my subaru , but with the baffle in just to be discreet.

 

mate i work in the car game so know the image that comes with subarus,i used to work as a porsche specialist,the comments i got from my customers about my "chav" car ,,,, ive met people who coment about " i could never own a subaru" ect, now that ALL changes when they drive it ill admit,,,,, but the image of em just dont cut it tbh though i do love driving my subaru otherwise i wouldnt own it,, the image kills the car as do some of the actual owners,,,, im prob one of the owners that also kills the image i guess

 

yeah but your customers saying that the subaru is a chav car forget that a porsche is for a middle aged balding man who goes crawling round trying to find young girls for fun.

 

I work with a guy who comments about Subarus and their 'pikey' owners, and he looks down his nose at them.

He is just selling his Mini (now there is a car with a bad image)..... and guess what he is buying................




















....... a 2002 STI.

Now he is actually in a position to own one he has changed his tune, and i think that might apply to a lot of people who bad mouth them.

 

[quote=Moley_WRX;9163261]I work with a guy who comments about Subarus and their 'pikey' owners, and he looks down his nose at them.

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Like to meet this guy he could pat my lurchers while i do a few doughnuts in tescos (only joking!).Had my 06 sti for 2 years and dont care about the image i love the car .From a fifty year old subaru fan.Not been on the forum long but love the banter

 

It's the results of a survey of 1500 people who want to save money!

 

....and they're bitter and that a Japanese 4 door saloon will keep up with they're expensive German **** extension!

 

True but it didn't stop some bloke throwing his other half into a hedge when they heard/saw me coming down the road 18 months ago I wasn't actually doing anything other than accelerating hard and fast and he threw her into the hedge at the side of the road, not sure whether it was my fault or he didn't like her

I want a 3 door but I hate the clocks and mine is a low owner & low mileage 2 wheel drive sapphire running 350bhp and only rear wheel drive so it's hard to replace, at least with the sapph I can almost leave it anywhere but I certainly don't fit the image of your stereotypical owner

 

[quote=speights;9163506][quote=Moley_WRX;9163261]I work with a guy who comments about Subarus and their 'pikey' owners, and he looks down his nose at them.

I feel the same. I'm 48, owned an audi in the late 80s (super-chipped 265bhp UR Quattro), Mecerdes 450SE (pimp-mobile but what a car!), 911 (but was 23 at the time & kind of happily married to a 22 year old nymphette so the "older man chasing young girl" syndrome didn't apply...although what I didn't know was that my h*rny wife was having all my mates behind my back while I was at work lol!) & several other "posh" performance cars yet when I drive my modded 06 Sti, I feel very special & also privileged to own the icon that it is.

Owning the Quattro was a special time as it was at the top of its tree winning countless WRCs & it's sound unique, raising the hairs on your neck with its 5 cylinder howl, although having said that, the Sti is the modern-day equivalent high-tech version of the Quattro which started the 4 wheel drive front/engined turbo revolution.

Driving my Scoob puts a fixed smile on my face the second I turn the key till the moment I arrive home & gives me a far greater thrill than any of my previous cars. It's not got vinyls, go faster stripes, earthing rubber strips on the back bumper ....just a subtle Scoobynet sticker on the back window. It's crystal grey so kind of "blends" in with everyday traffic (apart from the Sti spoiler making it stand out from the run of the mill traffic) & I sit behind the wheel with a sense of ultimate pride as to me since picking her up on Nov 13th 2009, this car is the best I have ever owned.

Obviously gets a lot of attention everywhere I go..mainly off chavs in their bespoilered Saxo/Punto/Fiesta grungemobiles goading me into racing them which I mainly ignore but also intelligent thinking types who admire it for its performance per pound capabilities, sound & desirability.

I love my Scooby forever.

 

I wish I could get 27mpg.

 

a load of chavs bought them and f-cked the whole reputation up

I'm really seeing some corkers in the classified ads, some real cretins b-stardising these cars out there

 

i brought mine because i liked it. bollocks to everyone else. lol#

ha ha hyundia hahaha i cant stop laughing ha ha. the only one that looks reasonable is the coupe and even then u have to be a midget to value any sort of head room.

 

This survey must be complete b0ll0x.

I don't know any Subaru owners who don't love their cars (except maybe the ones that have just had terminal engine failure?)

Why complain about mpg and running costs with a 300bhp car? They're all just as bad whatever make they are. The Bugatti Veyron isn't a bad car just because it costs a lot to run.

Where do they get the 'worth a third after 3 years' from. Mine cost me £15k new 4.5 years ago and is still worth more than half that. Are they saying a 56 plate STi is worth £8k.

As for image, I know it has suffered, but I wouldn't sell up just for that. The wife has a Golf GTI mk5 and it is a very good car, but I don't feel the same thrill driving it. Whenever we turn up in it at friends or family, they always ask why I haven't used the Scooby. The Golf to them is just a 'normal' car.

 

I personally have never met anyone who hates subarus or rather my mum and sis in law said they were i turned up when I brought it and they changed there minds my mums loves me taking her shopping in it the seats are great for her back apparently.

Unfortunetly Subaru slater have an image of a scoob in there head of big zaust big wheels huge spoilers and lexus lights. Unforturtly these cars are getting more common dam chavs!!!. It spoils it for us enthusiasts iv had nothing but complements and enthusiasm for mine and it's my00 so 10 years old now.

 

One thing I don't miss from Scoob wonership is the dirty looks you get from the "holier than thou" brigade. A lot of VAG/German drivers are like this, and Mr 04 plate Vectra usually has a problem with you over taking him on a motorway.

The one thing I like more over my old Scoobs with my current box<< (apart from the nimbleness, steering and handling in general ) is the exclusivity factor. You don't see many of my car around now, and see EVEN LESS chavved up examples due to it passing through this stage a few years ago with the Max Power lot. Its 22 years old, has blemishes here and there, the interior likes to fall apart, and it's currently giving me similar mpg to my old Scoobs (which had 100bhp more LOL) due to the cold weather/short journeys.... but.... I get some really positive comments from those who know anything about cars (so you can discount most of the above mentioned fodder sor starters ) because it is rare now. Car shows are great as it usually seems to be the only one of its kind there, but at the end of the day I miss my Scoob everyday regardless as I know where my heart lies. But for sub £1000, it's the best value for money if you want fun, enthusiastic driving and simplness you can buy IMHO. Thats why I got it when the Scoob had to be sold.

So are Scoobs a chav car? I'd say currently they're going through the stage where lots are available for cheapish money and the gap between genuine owners (who like the brand and everything that comes with the package - minus the current public status) and the chavs after a quick sub £2k car to razz about for 6 months, is huge.

For the record, there is some **** round my neck of the woods who cains his Scoob everyhwere. Was up my **** the other day while I'm pootling about at the speed limit. It was when he took a turning on a roundabout I noticed 2 things straight away...

1. he had different coloured panels all down the drivers side (silver car), which given his driving style doesn't suprise me.
2. his number plate is P8LWS (seriously).

 

What I don't get is this. I'm a 48 year old with full 9 years NCD, a clean licence with the experience of a history of owning /driving performance cars under my belt...currently also the owner/rider (fair weather) of a 94 Honda Fireblade for the past 8 years which also got taken into account during my insurance quote for my modded Scooby yet the cheapest (of three quotes) I could get my policy for is £650 per annum.

How do these chavs (sub 48 years old or should I say more like 20-30 year olds) driving/ragging them around scaring everyone with their recklessness in their sub 2k Scoobys actually afford to insure them? They all must be paying out more for their cover than the actual value of their cars! Or is it that everytime we hear/see an oldie one with multi-coloured panels/drain-pipe exhausts/be-stickered bodywork hiding a plethora of scrapes & damage across the whole of the bodywork with sub-standard road techniques giving us reasonably decent owners a "tar with the same brush" reputation have no insurance cover at all?

How reckless would that be if it were to be the truth. Most Scoobys (old ones included) are a high-performance vehicle modded or not & are capable of insane speed/cornering in the right hands but a LETHAL weapon in an immature drivers hands.

Ps3/Wii games & the ilk may prove to them that they are a fast & capable driver but this does not hold for real-life on-the-road motoring.

I have 5 sons (eldest 19) none of which I would recommend to purchase/drive a Scooby until they had at least 5-8 years road experience in far lesser cars let alone the cost of purchase of a Scooby & most DEFINITELY to be insured. The countrys roads are becoming more scary with these OTHER (chavy) types of drivers on them.

 

i agree kind off.

but uve done to us young uns exactly what u said above u hate. Not all of us "young uns" are burrberry wearing hooligans. my scoob is a classic its bog standard bar a magnex cat back, 17" alloys and a green panel filter.

set aside the filter and all of the mods ive just listed were done by the previous owner. The subaru isnt a jet fighter and i know people that drive nissan micras to the point they have been elevated to a WMD. Its not the car its the driver. Yes its a powerfull car but its for u to state us young uns shouldnt be allowed one.

Ps nice bike choice btw, im a fellow biker myself.

u see im 21 i have 3 years no claims and no points and 1 claims and i pay 1k tpft.

my freind drives a vauxhal vectra(lovely car) its a 1.8 SRI he has more no claims and is 4 years older than me yet pays the same as i do!.

£640 sounds alot but uve mentioned its modded.

In ur answer the chavs they can afford them because there parents usually have them on there own policy. They dont declare mods. and the law is to soft when there caught.

Its not all of us 21 year olds that are tosser on the road ive seen some 45 year old that are awfull.

we have all heard some say "bloody old man" "flat cap behind the wheel look out" there older than the both of us yet we fail to realise there insurance is cheaper than all of us and they do the most stupidist of things.

So my argument is its not the persons age or ability that counts, its the way there brought up (or dragged in some cases) and there personallity.

if ur an *** behine the wheel, ur an *** behind the wheel regardless of how old u r, or ur experiance.

 

£650, you have been done up like a kipper...PM Moley he works for Keith Micheals. I'm over 10 years younger than you (), and my heavily modded classic is less than two thirds the cost you are paying

 

I'm amazed at the £650 premium too .... that's really high!

I pay £300 - including my backbox declared - £265 without backbox.

 

Only worth a third of it's price?

My current Hawkeye is worth more than half what it would have been new over 3 yrs ago.

 

You don't really know what it's worth until someone pays something for it - until then, it is just what you think/hope it is worth.

These cars, great though they are, have taken a beating on residual values.

 

Nope - dealer offering more than half original rrp as a part exchange!

 

Kipper number two , same age same history ,06 STI with all mods declared insured with Kieth Micheals £600

 

I drove mine to funeral monday. Quietly arrived and quietly left. Drive like a idiot you will look like one.

 

Who with ?

 

What value have you insured your car for

 

Blimey, that seems steep...is it extensively modified or is this the first quick car you have owned...does that even make a difference over a certain age...where's Gary