Thoughts on 306 gti?
12 September 2009, 11:22 AM
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Great cars, replaced a 205 with one, and was almost the same amazing experience as driving the 205, not bad for a much newer car that was heavier. Still miss it, handled great, but I fill the void with my current 205GTi which I've owned for 7 years and is now worth again what I paid for it 
12 September 2009, 01:02 PM
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i had a 306 turbo diesel got to say like the look of the car was just standard bodywork with different wheels lowerd usual stuff but the gearbox what put me off was like soup and a few niggly electrical problems so it didnt take me long to get rid of it so i tried the gti6 as my mate had a nice one but the gearbox just seemed the same but maybe i just picked up a couple of dodgers lol i would still have another one though despite the problems my mate has just picked a cheap minter 205 gti white one and hes away put in the gti6 engine in it so should be fun
12 September 2009, 01:06 PM
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i had a 306 turbo diesel got to say like the look of the car was just standard bodywork with different wheels lowerd usual stuff but the gearbox what put me off was like soup and a few niggly electrical problems so it didnt take me long to get rid of it so i tried the gti6 as my mate had a nice one but the gearbox just seemed the same but maybe i just picked up a couple of dodgers lol i would still have another one though despite the problems my mate has just picked a cheap minter 205 gti white one and hes away put in the gti6 engine in it so should be fun
200bhp in 875kg - sexy time 
12 September 2009, 01:12 PM
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The performance, well, our is putting out about 176 bhp (167bhp as stock, but the engine is nice and loose now
)So it's nowhere near as urgent as the Scoob (even taking into account that my Scoobs were modded), BUT, keep it in the right rev range, and it's fantastic. Not as quick as the Scoob, but still quick enough, and it's FUN!!!
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12 September 2009, 01:50 PM
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Thanks
The performance, well, our is putting out about 176 bhp (167bhp as stock, but the engine is nice and loose now)
So it's nowhere near as urgent as the Scoob (even taking into account that my Scoobs were modded), BUT, keep it in the right rev range, and it's fantastic. Not as quick as the Scoob, but still quick enough, and it's FUN!!!
Dan
The performance, well, our is putting out about 176 bhp (167bhp as stock, but the engine is nice and loose now
)So it's nowhere near as urgent as the Scoob (even taking into account that my Scoobs were modded), BUT, keep it in the right rev range, and it's fantastic. Not as quick as the Scoob, but still quick enough, and it's FUN!!!
Dan
12 September 2009, 02:01 PM
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Everyone forgets about the 309 I had one 1.9 GTI, 100k on the clock and still moved not a bad car, handles better than the 205 believe it or not 
plus the power steering is standard 
but not quite as quick due to the extra 70ish kg (still made out of tissue paper though )
Bought one when I was looking for a 205 gti, was more vfm tbh, but the 205's are iconic still, preferred the 306 GTI's to the 205's ive driven and the 309 (had a 306 and a 309 gti at the same time, totally spoilt )
Tony
I had one 1.9 GTI, 100k on the clock and still moved not a bad car, handles better than the 205 believe it or not plus the power steering is standard but not quite as quick due to the extra 70ish kg (still made out of tissue paper though )Bought one when I was looking for a 205 gti, was more vfm tbh, but the 205's are iconic
still, preferred the 306 GTI's to the 205's ive driven and the 309 (had a 306 and a 309 gti at the same time, totally spoilt )Tony
12 September 2009, 02:15 PM
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306 getting rave reviews, thats what i was hoping for. I know its not going to be as quick as an impreza, but since owning a 1.6 maegane coupe as a stop gap,(stop laughing please, lol) its a nice change to own something that im not petrified to leave anywhere, is good on fuel (40mpg) etc etc, and overall i suppose i enjoy it more, if that makes sense???
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12 September 2009, 03:43 PM
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Your main points to check are the central locking (75 quid for the new loom from a dealer, and thats the only place that does them, plus then fitting, cost me 140 each side on my old one), air con (pipes corrode, 400+ for all the new pipework), also ensure the auto wipers work, just knock them onto the first setting and pour some water over the sensor, it should just wipe, if not can be expensive to fix 
Rear beams can go, watch out for lowered examples, if its not done right it can ruin them and being too low in the rear arch is another sign of the rear beam going (400 quid).
Brakes are pretty damn cheap and the standard ones (2 pots) should put you through the front screen and check for the clutch, not serious money but hey, another 400 quid to replace
Tony
PS, they are a nightmare when turning right due to the gearbox taking up some of the turning circle, be warned it can get interesting in carparks
Rear beams can go, watch out for lowered examples, if its not done right it can ruin them
and being too low in the rear arch is another sign of the rear beam going (400 quid).Brakes are pretty damn cheap and the standard ones (2 pots) should put you through the front screen
and check for the clutch, not serious money but hey, another 400 quid to replace Tony
PS, they are a nightmare when turning right due to the gearbox taking up some of the turning circle, be warned it can get interesting in carparks
12 September 2009, 04:46 PM
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I find the 306gti-6 extremely flat powerwise drove a few over the years dont really like them if im honest. flat in regards to power the way the pedal are is weired fairly noisey not very well soundproof'd I found just my opinion though.
honda civic type r or 205 gti for me everyday regardless of 205 being slower!
honda civic type r or 205 gti for me everyday regardless of 205 being slower!
12 September 2009, 06:35 PM
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I find the 306gti-6 extremely flat powerwise drove a few over the years dont really like them if im honest. flat in regards to power the way the pedal are is weired fairly noisey not very well soundproof'd I found just my opinion though.
honda civic type r or 205 gti for me everyday regardless of 205 being slower!
honda civic type r or 205 gti for me everyday regardless of 205 being slower!
It has 142lbs of torque, thats like 3 less than the civic type r, it definately doesnt have a flat power band, my last one quite happily kept up with a new age WRX who was giving it some in 5th gear on an autobahn
dont know what you drove but sound like they were badly maintained examples as these cars you can drive around town in 5th gear And the pedals are in a perfect position, they are not off set or anything, you must have club feet
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New one here on pistonheads, sort of thing you should be looking for, unabused nice example if it passes a hpi check
I will add that the guy who bought mine came down from aberdeen to just north of manchester without even looking at it (sent him lots of photo's etc) and he bought it there and then, said the first one he went to look at was a real shed, described as "mint", second one had been rear ended and had a bent boot floor, mine just had laqueur peel but he wasnt bothered about that cos his mate was a sprayer
so I had my 1800 quid for her bargain!Peugeot : peugeot 306 gti- 6
Tony
PS, these are one of the best sounding engines in a hot hatch you can get
not raggy like the civic type r or 205 gti's, they have a glorious sound on full chant
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12 September 2009, 07:32 PM
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Flat?
It has 142lbs of torque, thats like 3 less than the civic type r, it definately doesnt have a flat power band, my last one quite happily kept up with a new age WRX who was giving it some in 5th gear on an autobahn dont know what you drove but sound like they were badly maintained examples as these cars you can drive around town in 5th gear
And the pedals are in a perfect position, they are not off set or anything, you must have club feet
To the OP
New one here on pistonheads, sort of thing you should be looking for, unabused nice example if it passes a hpi check
I will add that the guy who bought mine came down from aberdeen to just north of manchester without even looking at it (sent him lots of photo's etc) and he bought it there and then, said the first one he went to look at was a real shed, described as "mint", second one had been rear ended and had a bent boot floor, mine just had laqueur peel but he wasnt bothered about that cos his mate was a sprayer so I had my 1800 quid for her bargain!
Peugeot : peugeot 306 gti- 6
Tony
PS, these are one of the best sounding engines in a hot hatch you can get not raggy like the civic type r or 205 gti's, they have a glorious sound on full chant
It has 142lbs of torque, thats like 3 less than the civic type r, it definately doesnt have a flat power band, my last one quite happily kept up with a new age WRX who was giving it some in 5th gear on an autobahn
dont know what you drove but sound like they were badly maintained examples as these cars you can drive around town in 5th gear And the pedals are in a perfect position, they are not off set or anything, you must have club feet
To the OP
New one here on pistonheads, sort of thing you should be looking for, unabused nice example if it passes a hpi check
I will add that the guy who bought mine came down from aberdeen to just north of manchester without even looking at it (sent him lots of photo's etc) and he bought it there and then, said the first one he went to look at was a real shed, described as "mint", second one had been rear ended and had a bent boot floor, mine just had laqueur peel but he wasnt bothered about that cos his mate was a sprayer
so I had my 1800 quid for her bargain!Peugeot : peugeot 306 gti- 6
Tony
PS, these are one of the best sounding engines in a hot hatch you can get
not raggy like the civic type r or 205 gti's, they have a glorious sound on full chant 
13 September 2009, 04:29 PM
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Ive seen a couple of rallye's on PH aswell. They seem to demand more of a premium. Is it worth it? I know they are lighter, what with no toys etc, but are they the better car?
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My opinion would be if you got a Rallye, why not buy a 205 instead? As the Rallye's are in my opinion just a 306 version of the 205 if that makes sense i.e. no refinement? So wouldn't you be better with the normal GTi-6 with little toys and some refinement?
13 September 2009, 04:49 PM
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See your point. I was just curious to see if they were any better without, if you get me. But to be honest i would miss the refinements.
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13 September 2009, 04:54 PM
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but it wasnt a 1.6 or a 1.9 a 1.4 if I remember correctly.The rallye version of the 306 isnt that much lighter, around 40kg, mainly the aircon and half leather seats that added the weight
Still the 306 is the one to have over the 205, much safer, handles great
and stops better than you can imagine Tony
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In your opinion...
love the 205's great car still to own but god do they feel their age very few low mile/fsh examples around now though I saw a phase 1 1.6 gti (105bhp) with 70ish k on the clock for 1500 quid (d reg) and in graphite grey (the colour I really wanted!) but the 306 is just an all round better car, sorry to say it but its more comfortable, handles like a dream you have luxuries in there and it doesnt rattle from day 1 though at 18+k new they were not cheap (first cost me 15.5k, 2nd cost me 16k, 3rd cost me 2.5k )Saying that, If i had the room I would have a 205, 309 & 306 GTI's sitting on the drive
(you should drive the 309 GTi, great fun car also
)Tony
14 September 2009, 07:11 AM
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Yes your right, the 1294cc engine, same as the 106 rallye I think (before they put the 1.6 in )
They are love the 205's great car still to own but god do they feel their age very few low mile/fsh examples around now though I saw a phase 1 1.6 gti (105bhp) with 70ish k on the clock for 1500 quid (d reg) and in graphite grey (the colour I really wanted!) but the 306 is just an all round better car, sorry to say it but its more comfortable, handles like a dream you have luxuries in there and it doesnt rattle from day 1 though at 18+k new they were not cheap (first cost me 15.5k, 2nd cost me 16k, 3rd cost me 2.5k )
Saying that, If i had the room I would have a 205, 309 & 306 GTI's sitting on the drive
(you should drive the 309 GTi, great fun car also)
Tony
)They are
love the 205's great car still to own but god do they feel their age very few low mile/fsh examples around now though I saw a phase 1 1.6 gti (105bhp) with 70ish k on the clock for 1500 quid (d reg) and in graphite grey (the colour I really wanted!) but the 306 is just an all round better car, sorry to say it but its more comfortable, handles like a dream you have luxuries in there and it doesnt rattle from day 1 though at 18+k new they were not cheap (first cost me 15.5k, 2nd cost me 16k, 3rd cost me 2.5k )Saying that, If i had the room I would have a 205, 309 & 306 GTI's sitting on the drive
(you should drive the 309 GTi, great fun car also
)Tony
I like the 205 more so as it doesn't have all the mod cons and is more of a raw drive - thats an age dependant necessity I guess
Don't the GTi-6's (well reading off Carfolio) weigh something like 1215kg? Not far off a classic Scoob and nearly 350kg more than a 205... thats what makes me wonder about the handling, and the speed.Simple solution... take the engine, brakes and seats out of a 306 and lob 'em on a low mileage 205
Jobs a good 'un!
15 September 2009, 12:03 PM
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I've had one an loved it also. Great chuckable car and loves to rev. Nothing needs to be done to them either, induction,exhaust, cams etc all well balanced to the car. Standard exhaust gives a nice note.!
I'd have another one tomorrow if a decent one was for sale and local to me. But there its at that age, and type of car that allot of rubbish is about. If you wan't a nice one you will need to dig a little deeper than you might think.
I'd have another one tomorrow if a decent one was for sale and local to me. But there its at that age, and type of car that allot of rubbish is about. If you wan't a nice one you will need to dig a little deeper than you might think.
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I've had a 1.9 205, a 306 xsi and a 306 GTi 6. The star was definately the GTi 6. The handling was fantastic, the gearchange smooth, and the power, if not scooby(STI) levels, was more than enough for backroad blasts.
The brakes are from a 406 coupe, so it stops well and imho it was one of the best looking hatches ever made.
My heater matrix went, and it was a bit of a pain to get the dash off, but nothing too bad.
Oh yeah, be careful when working on the front suspension. If you pull at the wrong time, the drive shafts fall out, and the box pours oil all over your overalls.
Get one. I wish I still had mine. (phase 1's are faster)
The brakes are from a 406 coupe, so it stops well and imho it was one of the best looking hatches ever made.
My heater matrix went, and it was a bit of a pain to get the dash off, but nothing too bad.
Oh yeah, be careful when working on the front suspension. If you pull at the wrong time, the drive shafts fall out, and the box pours oil all over your overalls.
Get one. I wish I still had mine. (phase 1's are faster)