swine flu in my little ones pre school
07 July 2009, 07:45 PM
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And that is exactly the reason these things get blown all out of proportion! Stupid!
Last year we were all going to die from bird flu....what happened....NAFF ALL! we are all still living and breathing. Now that was a surprise wasn't it
The only way to build resistance to any disease is to be exposed to it!
The flu will kill weak, ill, or people with poor living conditions in poor countries which funnily enough mexico is
It will not kill healthy humans in the western world due to better living conditions, food and medicines. Stop being ridiculous and take the kid to school, i doubt you would take the kids out if it was "normal " flu.
Anyway it's illegal to take kids out of school in term time
07 July 2009, 08:20 PM
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A few stats:
300 deaths in June worldwide, and 100 in May.
UK Cases in June - 7000, and in May - 400
Any ideas what Julys figures may look like?
This flu is gathering pace.....if you all think it's scare mongering, then let me have the first lot of tamiflu!
300 deaths in June worldwide, and 100 in May.
UK Cases in June - 7000, and in May - 400
Any ideas what Julys figures may look like?
This flu is gathering pace.....if you all think it's scare mongering, then let me have the first lot of tamiflu!
07 July 2009, 09:32 PM
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To add some perspective though....
about 1.5 million people die worldwide in road traffic accidents each year. Over 7 million people die each year from heart disease, over 2 million die from HIV /AIDS, 1.5 million from lung cancer and yet the world population continues to grow. Until we are loosing 10 million people worldwide in a year to this flu I wont be getting too excited.
about 1.5 million people die worldwide in road traffic accidents each year. Over 7 million people die each year from heart disease, over 2 million die from HIV /AIDS, 1.5 million from lung cancer and yet the world population continues to grow. Until we are loosing 10 million people worldwide in a year to this flu I wont be getting too excited.
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07 July 2009, 09:42 PM
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You watch too many films!
Havent read all this thread cos cant be bothered but if any of you people give your kids or even yourselves the tamiflu vacine then you need ya heads read. Do abit of research behind the company, find out who has shares in it and read what has happened in the past with this company. Its terrible! This hasnt even been tested and they are already handing it out like smarties. Word of advice, Dont watch the news either as its totally controlled and minipulated using fear. Remember who-ever controls the info controls whole populations. Thats all im saying! (wont even be able to say this soon).
07 July 2009, 10:23 PM
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For those who want their kids to have it ... 22 December 2005
"... The clinical study on which FDA-approval for ages 1-12 years was based included 222 children in that age range out of a total of over 1100 people ....... The most common side effects in this study were nausea, vomiting, headache and fatigue. Importantly, the FDA has requested further safety data post-marketing to evaluate the long-term safety of this drug ...."
So, it got approval after testing on 222 children, plus it only reduces the time suffering the *flu* symptoms by about 1 day.
Swine Flu and the Pharma Scam - AIII (Association of Indian Individual Investors) | Google Groups
Donald Rumsfeld is in the frame here as well .... not a good omen ....
Anatomy of the Tamiflu Scam ... more to get you thinking/searching. I'll not be taking Tamiflu or letting my 5 year old take it.
Dave
"... The clinical study on which FDA-approval for ages 1-12 years was based included 222 children in that age range out of a total of over 1100 people ....... The most common side effects in this study were nausea, vomiting, headache and fatigue. Importantly, the FDA has requested further safety data post-marketing to evaluate the long-term safety of this drug ...."
So, it got approval after testing on 222 children, plus it only reduces the time suffering the *flu* symptoms by about 1 day.
Swine Flu and the Pharma Scam - AIII (Association of Indian Individual Investors) | Google Groups
Donald Rumsfeld is in the frame here as well .... not a good omen ....
Anatomy of the Tamiflu Scam ... more to get you thinking/searching. I'll not be taking Tamiflu or letting my 5 year old take it.
Dave
07 July 2009, 10:25 PM
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what would you do, letter home with my 4 year old daughter today, a child in her school has swine flue and is being treated at home under quarantine
it says school is carrying on as normal
what would you do? i said to my wife well she only has a week left at school id like to keep her off.
i know its all media hype but it is worrying
it says school is carrying on as normal
what would you do? i said to my wife well she only has a week left at school id like to keep her off.
i know its all media hype but it is worrying
Not bothered
08 July 2009, 08:43 AM
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One could also suggest that you should stop being a sheep and saying the media hype things up.
I'm doing reading, sifting through the crap, conducting risk analysis and I'm still concerened.
I'd be very happy to be proved wrong and no SNers get swineflu.
I'm doing reading, sifting through the crap, conducting risk analysis and I'm still concerened.
I'd be very happy to be proved wrong and no SNers get swineflu.
08 July 2009, 10:20 AM
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08 July 2009, 11:54 AM
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It has been blown up out of proportion by the media of course, sells papers I suppose.
By all accounts it is pretty mild at the moment anyway and we shall have to hope it does not become seriously virulent as time goes by.
It seems that all those who have been seriously affected by it so far have had some underlying health problems.
Les
By all accounts it is pretty mild at the moment anyway and we shall have to hope it does not become seriously virulent as time goes by.
It seems that all those who have been seriously affected by it so far have had some underlying health problems.
Les
08 July 2009, 12:40 PM
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Thats true. The Gov's policy has moved from containment to the treatment of swine flu. Tests are no longer carried out and Tamiflu is handed out (free) to people who display the symptoms of this flu.
Its expected to become more virulent this winter and if so will leave the general population with little option for treatment. I see a shortage in the availability of the flu jab this winter as everyone scrambles to get this treatment.
Its expected to become more virulent this winter and if so will leave the general population with little option for treatment. I see a shortage in the availability of the flu jab this winter as everyone scrambles to get this treatment.
10 July 2009, 10:09 PM
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11 July 2009, 10:33 AM
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friend of mine thought he had it (wife feeling ill, child at school with it etc) - they all had tamiflu and he says it made him feel awful - upset stomach, headaches etc. turned out there was nothing wrong with him - I also won't be taking tamiflu.
11 July 2009, 11:20 AM
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Tamiflu isn't supposed to make you feel better. It's supposed to attack the virus and prevent it from multiplying and spreading. To reduce the symptoms, take Lemsip of similar.
11 July 2009, 12:04 PM
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In that case i think you ought to study the effect of the media and their agenda abit more closely my friend. Then you will realise how silly your first comment is. No offence but its true! I think 99% of the population dont have a clue how our countries are run and by whom!
......I still hope I am wrong and it's media hype, I just feel there is more to it than that. Todays news does not make me feel any better!
11 July 2009, 06:04 PM
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It's an anti-viral, linked to a different strain of flu, and arguably has limited effect. Flu viruses mutate pretty quickly - hence there's never been a real vaccine for one, as by the time a vaccine is sorted, the virus has mutated such that it's not much use.
From a tamiflu website:
"Tamiflu has been studied only in strains of influenza that were circulating at the time. The magnitude of effect of Tamiflu in treating and preventing novel strains of influenza (such as those that may be involved in a pandemic or associated with avian flu) cannot be predicted.
Tamiflu has not been proven to have a positive impact on the potential consequences (such as hospitalizations, mortality, or economic impact) of seasonal, avian, or pandemic influenza "
I'll take my chances with the flu, thanks.
G
11 July 2009, 08:11 PM
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So your friend says tamiflu made him feel awful. All drugs have side effects and each drug can affect individuals in differently and doesn't necessarily mean you'll suffer the same side effects, just like this flu has different level of severity for each individual.
I'm not advocating that everyone should take it, everyone should have that choice. I took it to reduce the chance of it spreading to my wife and children, even if it supposedly has limited affect, though in my instance, it seems to have worked as my family have not shown any symptoms.
I'm not advocating that everyone should take it, everyone should have that choice. I took it to reduce the chance of it spreading to my wife and children, even if it supposedly has limited affect, though in my instance, it seems to have worked as my family have not shown any symptoms.
11 July 2009, 09:04 PM
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This may be nothing more to worry about than normal flu, but who knows how bad it will get, as it seems to be picking up pace.
I'm a little annoyed though, that someone at my work has been diagnosed with it, and although off sick now, people may have been exposed, yet noone saw fit to let us know we may be at risk.
I'm a little annoyed though, that someone at my work has been diagnosed with it, and although off sick now, people may have been exposed, yet noone saw fit to let us know we may be at risk.
12 July 2009, 03:41 PM
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Havent read all this thread cos cant be bothered but if any of you people give your kids or even yourselves the tamiflu vacine then you need ya heads read. Do abit of research behind the company, find out who has shares in it and read what has happened in the past with this company. Its terrible! This hasnt even been tested and they are already handing it out like smarties. Word of advice, Dont watch the news either as its totally controlled and minipulated using fear. Remember who-ever controls the info controls whole populations. Thats all im saying! (wont even be able to say this soon).
Swine flu, comes from a combination of man, bird and pig...Ok.
Released, sorry, the outbreak in a small Mexican village.
Within weeks, global pandemic, but it's not killing enough peeps.
Now there's a new strain, released, sorry discovered....
Remember a few years ago, the aids virus.........
13 July 2009, 06:08 PM
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We worked in a classroom in a school in Rochdale the other day where the Teacher and a child both had swine flu diagnosed, we still carried out the work
We worked in Handsworth school when the 44 kids were off with it
I dont really see it as an issue tbh as long as relevant precautions are taken
obviously the school werent too bothered as they let us work there, and we are back there tomorrow
We worked in Handsworth school when the 44 kids were off with it
I dont really see it as an issue tbh as long as relevant precautions are taken
obviously the school werent too bothered as they let us work there, and we are back there tomorrow