New GTR or not?
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I was talking to a chap just an hour ago who tells me you can import one, with all VAT, fees etc paid, for about £38K at todays exchange rate.
That was for the Black Edition without sat-nav ('cos it won't work over here).
That was for the Black Edition without sat-nav ('cos it won't work over here).
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How do you get it through the SVA? That won't be cheap?
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At 128 JPY/GBP? The Jap list price before import charges is about £100k now.
SVA would be the least of my concerns at £38k! I think he has his numbers mixed up.
SVA would be the least of my concerns at £38k! I think he has his numbers mixed up.
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I'm seeing 57 plate GTR's sell in Japan for JPY6,000,000 with 5-10k miles which works out at £63k OTR after duty/SVA into the UK. If you can get a GTR for £38k then you'd sell it overnight for £50k.
Incidentally, to import a Spec V will cost over £150k right now.
I have a vested interest in saying this (I have a jdm GTR in my garage right now) but should the economy be as bad as I think and the pound continue to drop then we may well see Nissan forced to raise the GBP price by 20-40% and a real prospect of halting all GTR production if things get worse. This could mean in a few years time you'll see GTR's for sale for more than the original purchase price.
The asking price in japan for a premium (top spec jap side) GTR is JPY9,300,000, in theory you could have pre ordered one in the UK for £57k, export it and reclaim your VAT and import duty and be offering it for sale in japan with delivery miles for jpy5,600,000 + 5% japan consumtion tax and whatever it costs you to ship it out. I dont think thats ever been the case before with a japanses car.
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I have an order for a GTR, I ordered way back in October 2007, and will receive my Black Black edition in May, also got to drive it at Silverstone, I can say it didnt blow my socks off (power wise) as I run a 2.5 STi Type UK pushing 380BHP but I cant compare as I havent put that on a track, but I know for a fact it would blow the scoob away around bends, and to be honest on the straights, its just a different power delivery and VERY capable indeed, it just goes and goes and goes
The gearbox faults are not a common fault at all, I suggest you read up here GT-R Register - Official Nissan Skyline and GTR Owners Club forum - Powered by vBulletin to get an idea of whats going on, there has been new software updates also for the box which the UK cars will get the newest version.
I am lucky that my car is still only £54,300 for the top version, as since VAT has come down to 15% I have saved £1200 odd
Anyway, if I were you dont think about the gearbox issue, you have 3 year warranty to cover that, and unless your stupid Nissan will honour it....Not being funny but im glad Nissan wont sell you the car for the original price, prices have rissen 6% and we have been waiting alot longer than you for the car, they are losing on this car already with the weak £ sorry
I personally think they residuals will be high, I also think the cars wont drop in price at all for the 1st 6 months at least, they may even gain, dont forget the sat nav models come out in September 2009 but they cost some £60,000, a clear £6000 more than a May/June/July/August car....
Heres a pic of me driving one at Silverstone
The gearbox faults are not a common fault at all, I suggest you read up here GT-R Register - Official Nissan Skyline and GTR Owners Club forum - Powered by vBulletin to get an idea of whats going on, there has been new software updates also for the box which the UK cars will get the newest version.
I am lucky that my car is still only £54,300 for the top version, as since VAT has come down to 15% I have saved £1200 odd
Anyway, if I were you dont think about the gearbox issue, you have 3 year warranty to cover that, and unless your stupid Nissan will honour it....Not being funny but im glad Nissan wont sell you the car for the original price, prices have rissen 6% and we have been waiting alot longer than you for the car, they are losing on this car already with the weak £ sorry
I personally think they residuals will be high, I also think the cars wont drop in price at all for the 1st 6 months at least, they may even gain, dont forget the sat nav models come out in September 2009 but they cost some £60,000, a clear £6000 more than a May/June/July/August car....
Heres a pic of me driving one at Silverstone
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The GTR register, along with others who've not had failures go with the same line, "Don't worry, it is warrantied". On NAGTROC there is brewing discord over denied warranties and multiple transmission failures. I don't think we can sweep it under the carpet so easily?
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I feel you are talking about people who have tuned the car to over 600BHP!, and the gearbox may not take it, saying that, there are reports of a 700BHP R35 which is fine
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There is various talk about software, launches, abuse, tuning, but it does seem that some are having failures on standard cars that have never been launched, and who carefully observe the transmission oil temperatures are in a suitable min-max range whilst they drive the car hard.
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- Owning a new car over buying a used car
- Lower running/service/maintenence costs
- The GT-R is faster around the Nurburgring
- The GT-R doesn't have its engine hanging over the rear wheels
- Personally think the GT-R's exterior looks better
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2 - Solid gearbox that won't fail
3 - 99.9% of buyers would struggle to get either round the 'ring in 8 minutes
4 - The 911 DOES have it's engine over the rear wheels
5 - Now you're just being silly
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Congrats Jace, good choice.
Yeah I wouldn't say there are many about, I think I've seen one and there were about 20 people gawping (drooling) over it.
Yeah I wouldn't say there are many about, I think I've seen one and there were about 20 people gawping (drooling) over it.
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2. Hmmmm, not sure about that. It'll chew tyres, drink fuel, and need looking after just like a Porsche.
3. See point 1. Plus, anyone other than a racing driver will never get one or the other round any track any quicker.
4. You're right it doesn't. Brownie points to you, well observed.
5. You've taken some drug, yes?
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1) Do you know what the issue with the transmission actually is? There was a lot of the same talk about the M5 when I bought mine. If you remember even the Top Gear M5 had a transmission/diff failure on the circuit?
Anyway, BMW found the fix and all were sorted within the warranty period. I've had mine for almost 2 years now with no problems. The price of it has crashed but thats nothing to do with the transmission/diff issue
2) Regardless of yen/£ the price of the GTR will drop like all cars, it would do even in a healthy economy but in this one it will do so even more.
Why not wait one year and benefit from a) seeing if the gearbox issue is sorted b) saving about £15K minimum.
I've been thinking of buying one myself but am waiting for the above reasons (or I may buy a current model S55 AMG to really burn money! )
1) Do you know what the issue with the transmission actually is? There was a lot of the same talk about the M5 when I bought mine. If you remember even the Top Gear M5 had a transmission/diff failure on the circuit?
Anyway, BMW found the fix and all were sorted within the warranty period. I've had mine for almost 2 years now with no problems. The price of it has crashed but thats nothing to do with the transmission/diff issue
2) Regardless of yen/£ the price of the GTR will drop like all cars, it would do even in a healthy economy but in this one it will do so even more.
Why not wait one year and benefit from a) seeing if the gearbox issue is sorted b) saving about £15K minimum.
I've been thinking of buying one myself but am waiting for the above reasons (or I may buy a current model S55 AMG to really burn money! )