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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
"Diablo" would never have put it so politely

"**** off back to muppets" would have been "his" retort

DD is a more mellow version who has seen things very differently from this side of the fence.

My post was intended to create constructive debate - I'm not saying that I object to ronjeramy's post. There has been some good input to this thread, which hopefully will result in change for the better :Thumb:
Though my point was had you been given the power you never got, which then resulted in you standing down from being a moderator, you'd have simply infracted them instead.

There is no solution but to take this place as only I and it appears FP do and that's to turn up when it suits and post when it suits, no matter who or what runs/controls the shop. Its called the 'just not fecking important' approach.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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Interesting that 80% of posters (voters) think that SN isn't any better since the IB buy out, even after the amazingly fantastic search fix
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Though my point was had you been given the power you never got, which then resulted in you standing down from being a moderator, you'd have simply infracted them instead.

There is no solution but to take this place as only I and it appears FP do and that's to turn up when it suits and post when it suits, no matter who or what runs/controls the shop. Its called the 'just not fecking important' approach.
I think people take this site too seriously.

It is a good laugh sometimes with some good people, but it is only a posting site. The odd ******* has to be expected and it can make it even funnier.

At the end of the day it's a platform for advertisers to sell more 'stuff', and the site's owners to make more cash. Well, it is now

I voted NO because it's less fun than it was and people seem scared to post stuff that wouldn't have got a second look a bit back - but they can now be banned for it.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Simon 69
Ive come to realise that IB werent the villains. That said; we dont want a revised infraction system, we want shut of it, but with re-empowered moderators and a decent admin that wont be an issue.

A moderator without an infraction system on a site of this size would be like a Gun with only one bullet... A moderator requires the power to fire warning shots, that way they can keep the masses in check in a reasonable manner. Infractions are the way to do this IMO.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ Internet Brands
A moderator without an infraction system on a site of this size would be like a Gun with only one bullet... A moderator requires the power to fire warning shots, that way they can keep the masses in check in a reasonable manner. Infractions are the way to do this IMO.
Was that the Muppets leaving or just thunder?
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ Internet Brands
Infractions are the way to do this IMO.
BIG mistake and a lost golden opportunity.

SN will never be the vibrant place it once was with this system still in place.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 07:26 PM
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Well: an empowered moderator is what Ive been arguing for, so I cant disagree.

A user-controlled infraction system would be (is) a disaster though: as is the post rating system.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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So.............let me get this straight.
You can't be bothered to appoint any more moderators, (I know someone who offered about a year ago), so you want the site to self-moderate? And to do so at the whim of every nutter on here?

Great idea, NOW can you see why people voted "no"?
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ Internet Brands
A moderator without an infraction system on a site of this size would be like a Gun with only one bullet... A moderator requires the power to fire warning shots, that way they can keep the masses in check in a reasonable manner. Infractions are the way to do this IMO.
"keep the masses in check" ...... so it would appear that the intention may be to hand the infraction system to the SN moderating team.... once, that is, the old duffers have been revived from whatever long forgotten pit they were dumped into.... apart from a couple of the more regular mods most are about as useless as chocolate feckin teapots
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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Very constructive
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Simon 69
Very constructive
That's rich coming from you
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tanyatriangles
So.............let me get this straight.
You can't be bothered to appoint any more moderators, (I know someone who offered about a year ago), so you want the site to self-moderate? And to do so at the whim of every nutter on here?

Great idea, NOW can you see why people voted "no"?
Though bias moderating already exists too. Appoint more of the same and that problem manifests.

Just ban all thick people and that'll leave 5% of the members to have a right hoot.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
That's rich coming from you
I wasnt talking to you: but if the cap fits.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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The peurile post rating on this thread and particularly here goes to show how abused and pointless it is. As admin can see who applied what ratings too it will also help you to decide who to ignore.

Old Nov 12, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by tanyatriangles
So.............let me get this straight.
You can't be bothered to appoint any more moderators, (I know someone who offered about a year ago), so you want the site to self-moderate? And to do so at the whim of every nutter on here?
Great idea, NOW can you see why people voted "no"?
Sorry? Have you even read this topic?


Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
"keep the masses in check" ...... so it would appear that the intention may be to hand the infraction system to the SN moderating team
These decisions are all down to the new Administrator to work out with the wenbteam along with input from your good selves.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck.
BIG mistake and a lost golden opportunity.

SN will never be the vibrant place it once was with this system still in place.
That is why trolls like you keep getting banned i personally think scoobynet is doing ok apart from those bitching like a dog without a bone wanting (I want my old name back i have been banned) ****-wits
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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The reason I started this thread was to get people to vote with their voices in one place, and mostly with regard to the problems that had been identified in the bugs forum, as little seemed to be happening, and certainly no visibility from IB

It wasn't meant to turn into a thread about how good or bad the infraction system is, or users constantly requesting permanent bans to be lifted (there is a reason why those bans are in force and it wasnt just because of one person (Simon), or whether Simon was a good Webmaster/Admin of the site

My own personal views where that since the sale, other than Webbie patrolling the infraction (sorry I meant Policy) forum there seemed to be no input from IB

One very good thing (again for me personally) that has come out of this thread is that IB have come forward in a very positive and timely manner and discussed the issues with the community with a common goal of moving things forward, and in the process fixed very quickly some of the problems reported in the bugs forum

I believe that the infraction system should stay (but with tweaks) and there should also be more active moderation, and not just Puff and Scoobychick, who don't just moderate they play a part in the community and interact with us mere plebs too

Well done to Stu for taking time out to listen and speak to us all regarding the issues, it is appreciated
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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I vote Scoobychick to be boss



Oh and yes what monkey boy said!
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ Internet Brands
A moderator without an infraction system on a site of this size would be like a Gun with only one bullet... A moderator requires the power to fire warning shots, that way they can keep the masses in check in a reasonable manner. Infractions are the way to do this IMO.

Sounds like a good idea in principle Stu, but poor, biased moderation would leave it as open to abuse as the current system. So eventually appointing a new moderating team would be a good thing IMHO. Also, give the banned users their IDs back and let the site re-birth begin.
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Bring back the BOSS
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Originally Posted by *Jamie*
I vote Scoobychick to be boss

Thrre is no need for that kind of radical thinking
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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Who infracted ps1ewis you sad ***** ffs he is not him
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ps1ewis
Bring back the BOSS
Hugo or Springsteen?


P.S. I think you need to give it up Pete, your card is marked!
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Suresh that is not pete ffs
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RE banned users; since this is a new start for SN then I'd have to agree to a point. If they then act up(don't know why many were hit with perma-bans), then just ban em again. Hell look how many second chances Joey Barton and Pete have had.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Moderator's have to be active, not just logging on for the sake of it;(If that is indeed the case, seems like it to me.) actually being part of the "community".

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pslewis has long since gone - I'm just illustrating how ****e the Infraction System is - an test on behalf of the owners to prove the pointlessness of it!
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Originally Posted by *Jamie*
Who infracted ps1ewis you sad ***** ffs he is not him
Like whoever it is cares?

Hardly their 'in use' username is it?
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One more thing, should really put this in bugs n features but what the hell, can we please lose the .... under S N when people abbreviate Scoobynet. It does my expletive removed **** in.
Old Nov 12, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mickywrx
One more thing, should really put this in bugs n features but what the hell, can we please lose the .... under S N when people abbreviate Scoobynet. It does my expletive removed **** in.
I haven't a clue what you mean by that, Micky.
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
Like whoever it is cares?

Hardly their 'in use' username is it?

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