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Old 05 September 2008, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Avalyn
Jeeso ... I had an MY05 wagon with PPP for 2 1/2 years from new and it didn't cost me any more to run than my previous Audi A4.

I did about 21K miles in the 2 1/2 years. On the free servicing plan though

Nothing went wrong or wore out, did not need pads/discs/tyres just routine servicing. Insurance was about £450 a year and could see about 30 mpg on long runs (especially with PPP).

Sure if you thrash it to death all the time it'll eat tyres/fuel/pads/discs but you can't drive like a numpty all the time

Can't say for me it was expensive to run considering it was a 260 bhp, 4WD car. Depreciation was the worst part, ownership was pretty pain free

Avalyn.
Yes, i can agree with that, sounds like that could of been written by me!! exactly my experience with 05 PPP Wagon.
Old 05 September 2008, 10:18 AM
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A standard 60k service this year cost me just over £500 - together with 2 new front tyres it took it to well over £700. Last year's 50k service (including cambelt change) was £350. This is my first scooby and I absolutely love it - has certainly made driving much more enjoyable again.
Old 05 September 2008, 10:21 AM
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thanks for all the replies - luckily I dont do a huge amount of miles a year so my petrol costs shouldn`t be that much of a shock.

I wouldn`t be driving it full pelt for most of the time so I could live with 25mpg without much pain.

Insurance wise - I have had a quote for £300ish for both the wrx and sti so not much difference there between them.

the road tax will be a lot higher - grudge paying it out to the government but thats another story we all share.

regarding servicing i would tend to try a good local independant garage as i dont think main dealer`s are worth the money for what they do - mostly a routine service is just an oil / filter change and a quick look around ... easy money for them.

what sort of mileage do you get out a set of discs on both cars ?

As stated wouldn`t be driving it like a looney so wouldn`t expect to be replacing brakes very much.

the only other thing that scares me is the cost of getting the timing belt changed - can someone remind me of what age / mileage this is to be done - 50,000 or 4 years seems to stick in my mind.

I love fast cars in general and have had a soft spot for a scooby for a long time - but sometimes when you let your head rule your heart its hard to justify the costs.

probably my best compramise between them would be to buy a good wrx with the ppp fitted.

At the end of the day it will be my better half that decides what i`m buying so who am I trying to kid ... lol
Old 05 September 2008, 10:50 AM
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how much do you intend on using the car
Old 05 September 2008, 11:20 AM
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At present i`m only doing between 5-6k a year, we have another car that my wife uses so I use the car for going back and forth to work and then do most of the "family" driving at the weekend.

I visited the land of the 1.4 litre for several years due to starting a family and i`m trying to claw myself back into what i have been used to driving over the years.

I think the "boy racer" bit has definately gone but it still feels special to drive these cars and now and then give them a spurt to get the old ticker going again.
Old 05 September 2008, 12:08 PM
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3 facts:

1. It's bloody fast.
2. It's bloody expensive.
3. It's bloody worth it.

They're an unbelievable performance bargain.

Old 05 September 2008, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby555baz
mostly a routine service is just an oil / filter change and a quick look around ...
Not necessarily with a scooby - if you want it to last you will need to service it properly. Cutting corners will cost you in the long run.

Check out these independent subaru specialists' servicing plans and costs:

http://www.scoobyclinic.com/download...le_classic.pdf
http://www.scoobyclinic.com/download...hedule_new.pdf
Roger Clark Motorsport - Subaru Impreza Service Price List

Would still definitely encourage you to get one cos the drive is soooooo good!!!
Old 05 September 2008, 12:38 PM
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I've had all sorts of sports and luxury cars and to be honest after nearly a yr of wrx ownership- I love it.

I just smile all the time in it. I even wash it occasionally and vacumn it !!!!

love driving in it. its a nice place to be.

only point was insurance- I remember saying to the scooby dealer - it might be nice but if ins ain't cheap- forget it- its only a car. anyway turned out to be not so bad- so went with it.

buying a car is easy and cheap- if yr daft enough to borrow money to do it, then you have problems...... as the running costs are always going to be there.

only way you ever get free motoring is if you run classic cars which can appreciate in value- and have a weird fanbase of people who will buy any old crap because they are buying into a trend/image etc
Old 05 September 2008, 01:41 PM
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If your going to get one get the sti as they come with all the trick bits already on. as your not doing loads of miles and caning it all the time i dont think the running cost differences are that much of an issue in your case. cam belt is no biggie the belt is about £30 i think and a decent spanner monkey should fit it in under 2hrs, look at the independant specialists but there not really needed for oil and filters or changing break pads and by the sound of it at 6k miles a year your not going to need a deal of brake pads just an oil change twice a year which if you do it yourself will cost less than £50. and any problems should be picked up by the garage come mot time. there are many harbingers of doom and gloom on here but a late model sti is a very reliable car. and there is no dark art to servicing them just post in technical and you will get all the info you need with regard to soaking oil filter in oil before fitting and dissconnecting sensors and turning engine over before starting to let the oil circulate prior to running the engine.. apart from that if you want peace of mind take it to a specialist once a year. DO NOT GO TO THE MAIN DEALER.. and most of all enjoy there is no car quite like a scooby!
Old 05 September 2008, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
there is no car quite like a scooby!
Old 05 September 2008, 01:54 PM
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soaking oil filter in oil before fitting and dissconnecting sensors and turning engine over before starting to let the oil circulate prior to running the engine..


Never read that in Subaru manual or workshop manual i think if that were a requirement Subaru would'nt sell any cars
Old 05 September 2008, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby555baz
At present i`m only doing between 5-6k a year, we have another car that my wife uses so I use the car for going back and forth to work and then do most of the "family" driving at the weekend.

I visited the land of the 1.4 litre for several years due to starting a family and i`m trying to claw myself back into what i have been used to driving over the years.

I think the "boy racer" bit has definately gone but it still feels special to drive these cars and now and then give them a spurt to get the old ticker going again.
I use my STi in the same way and am no footballer and find the costs high, but worth while. It turns into a car AND a bit of a hobby when you own an Impreza.
Old 05 September 2008, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by superstar1
soaking oil filter in oil before fitting and dissconnecting sensors and turning engine over before starting to let the oil circulate prior to running the engine..


Never read that in Subaru manual or workshop manual i think if that were a requirement Subaru would'nt sell any cars
yep thats why those in the know dont go to the stealers but you go ahead and do what you like with your car as it matters not to me
Old 05 September 2008, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by st33ly
an idea for running costs for STi
discs £200 + VAT each from subaru + £100 for pads. rear shocks £250 each from subaru. None he less you can get parts cheaper but the STi is more expensive to run than a WRX make no mistake.
So your theory on running costs revolve around, new discs, pads and shocks....

For a start the official service intervals is 10k, so not bad at all, and at a specialists, its not too bad a price, the cambelt takes the p1ss, but still, thats not every service.

High insurance, road tax and then low MPG all make for an expensive car to run.

But unless your doing continuous trackdays or sprints then discs and pads etc don't tend to need replacing as what id call an annual running cost.
Old 05 September 2008, 03:05 PM
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u can fill a scooby up to the brim with rocket fuel (v power) and take the thing out onto the B roads for an hour and have some of the best fun in your life, but its allways a rude awakening when u see u have used 3/4 of a tank
Old 05 September 2008, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
yep thats why those in the know dont go to the stealers but you go ahead and do what you like with your car as it matters not to me
I'll keep an open mind until PSLEWIS gives me the facts
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