I have recently been caught doing 100+ in a 60 limit.

I had my day in court in April, plead guilty and the rest is history. Ban and a fine for me.

Also a guy from work got done doing 80mph in a 40 limit (dual carriage way) and he also got a ban.

Dont think they look kindly at doubling the speed limit!!!!!!!!

Better get to keeping that change for the bus like I did mate

S

 

The OP could always SORN the Scoob, buy a cheap runaround & drive that for a year or two til the insurance goes back down.

TX.

 

That is not rubbish. About 4 or 5 people I know have told me it needs calibrated every day - including a guy with 2 mates that are traffic officers. I thought that was known widely.

And if it comes down to it, what have you got to lose by asking them for it??? You say the officer will put it in his statement making it watertight...but if you are being done for a speeding offence they will take the officer's word for it unless you ask anyway. The man I mentioned with 2 mates that are traffic cops, told me just last week that unless they have a calibration certificate for that day of use, the reading doesnt count for anything.

 

TerzoAlan
I'm affraid that WRXMATT is 100% spot on!

It might depend on the type of laser device used but for the versions used by many police forces the device is callibrated once every year and the officer need only carry out certain checks every day he uses it. These include a fixed distance check (as stated often at the officers home station) and a check of the laser sight aligment. There is no certificate to show anyone. The only way that a member of the public can see any sort of calibration proof is to go to court where the officer will have completed a statement with all of his checks documented.

Of course I fully accept that other police forces may use devices that may need daily calibration but it is something I have not heard of.

Hope that clears some things up.

 

spoke to some1 in the legal department and they are willing to take my case but he reckons if i plead guilty to this (if goes to court) then he would assume i would get 6points and £400 fine! but if he has anything to pick up on then he will! just got to wait for the report to be posted! it may not go to court.

 

Sheesh - getting professional representation for a guilty plea is a waste of time and money. You can easily plead guilty all by yourself and say what needs to be said to the Magistrates.

If there is a question of exceptional hardship by reason of a driving disqualification, you get your chance to say so. If there isn't, take it on the chin, dress sensibly, take your driving licenCe with you, don't argue with the facts, show some respect and contrition, and don't forget to apologise - you have actually broken the law and put a few people to some inconvenience by your inattention to a speed limit.

 

Surely he'll be picking up on the fact that there were no limit signs Or did you forget to mention that?

 

yip but he needs to see a report??? and will take it from there he thinks i have a strong case and has got many people off speeding but doesn't con the whole fact of speeding being a subaru driver too!lol

 

i got caught doing 55 in a 30 and got 6 point and £350 fine
lot more careful now only drive fast on private roads

 

Thanks Blart,

TerzoAlan, i too have heard all of these storys, but trust me this is the case.

Police officers do still have (a small amount) of discression so i was just advising that sometimes the best option is to take what you are given. It makes no difference to the officer giving a fixed penalty and 3 points or giving a summons to court. If you start disputing thigs at the road side then you won't get the simple ticket and will just go straight to court to argue it there.
And you never know, you might get a sensible officer who will just give a warning (providing the circumstances allow it).

I suggest most officers will allow 10 mph above speed limit before giving a ticket and will just warn verbally, but again that is their decision so someone being an **** when pulled over might see themselves off.

And general rule is, if its 20-25 mph above the speed limit then a ticket cannot be issued and you would have to go to court.

Hope this clears a few things up, my thoughts are i'll drive how i want to drive but safely as i can. If i do break the speed limit an get caught then its my fault and i'll take the consiquences.

Cheers
Matt

 

Very true.

I was doing a little over 11mph in a 5mph area during an overtake on a wide straight road. However, one of the cars was an unmarked police traffic car.

The officer was fantastic, explained why the road was limited to 50 because of farm traffic, commented that my driving was ok just much too fast and handed me a fixed penalty, 3 points £60.

There are a lot decent ones and I think they appreciate being treated with respect and decency.

 

My [speeding] case went to court last week with a written statement from Policeman saying calibration once a year & device was last calibrated July 2007

TX.

 

Got done in Cambridge a while back, was apparently doing 56 in a 30 going over a 4 lane bridge, it was late at night no cars no people, police said I was doing the speed for two tenths of a mile, don't think so! the bridge is just over that and I was coming off a roundabout after sitting at lights and this was in my Rover 200 too! anyway, even though I went to court and questioned the lack of evidence and the fact the police statement was written two weeks after the incident I was given 6 points and fined £300 wasn't happy all that for accelerating a bit hard and probably doing a max of about 45 for less than half the length of an empty bridge in the middle of a Wednesday nigh....anyway if you get less than me I'll be happy for you but even more fecked off for me

 

I think the OP should post up the location, there must be someone locally on here who can confirm whether or not there is a sign as you enter the 30 limit.

I can't believe that there is no sign at all.

 

Someone recently got done by a mobile unit in/around Thurso, so they are venturing further north.

 

For eight months when I was working in Manchester and coming out on the M56 there were no NSL signs to show that you had passed from the 50mph urban section to the open road. Everybody driving from Manchester to North Wales should have stuck to 50mph all the way!

 

F'ing

55 in a 30. 3 lane road, 2 in my direction of travel. Clear skies, no traffic apart from 1 other car etc etc

Given ticket for 3pts & £60 although unable to produce licence at station as could not find it.

6 months later get summons, 2 weeks later is court case.

6pts & £800 fine!

Can I appeal as it's a disgrace?

TX.

 

6 points is in line with guidelines, fine seems a bit excessive. You can appeal the penalty, but it will cost you. Did you plead guilty?

To be honest I dont think they would of accepted your fixed penalty at the start, it would of been rejected and then forwarded to the magistrates.

 

This really fits the crime this. £800 taken from you for misplacing a driving license! F*cking A**eholes! Still, they need to line their pockets with money from somewhere.

WRXMATT - that may be correct, I can hardly call myself an expert on the matter...but i'm just surprised so many people have mentioned it to me. It maybe applied to an old gun that is no longer in use, or one that is possibly still used in scotland?? Who knows.

Alan

 

Speed guns are calibrated once a year.

If the road / dual carriageway was illuminated with street lighting then its a 30 mph zone unless there are signs telling you otherwise. Read the highway code.

Did they caution you, at the time.

If not then they cant prosecute you.

dont waste your money on a Solicitor

Go to

PePiPoo: Helping the motorist to get justice


You can go down the cop shop view the evidence

Ask for a copy of the calibration certificat they will refuse but its evidence and its your right to have a copy, make sure they give you both the front and the back.

Also ask for a demonstration of the speed gun from the officer who caught you this is fun you should get to see how confident or not he is in useing it.


Send all correspondence by recorded mail.

and dont speed again

 

You're right, it is a disgrace. 55 in a 30 is completely irresponsible regardless of whether the sun is shining and the birds are singing.

And you can't find your driving licence either? Sounds to me like you need to get a grip. This is just sloppy and strikes me as a complete disregard for common sense.

Try learning to do 30 in a 30, and look after important documents.

Try also learning not to make yourself look even more pathetic by publicising your inadequacies.

Muppet.

 

Pleaded guilty & threw (sp?) myself at the mercy of the courts

Point for me is that I did get given a FPN & was happy to accept that. Genuinely could not find licence so could not produce it within the 7 days. Went to police station & explained this however they were not sympathetic (perhaps didn't believe me?). If policeman gave me 3pts & £60 fine then is it acceptable for a magistrate to double the pts & increase the fine by several 100%

Who do you mean by "they" below?

TX.

 

i am going down to the cop shop find out what evidence they have and see him show me how the gun works so i can do this for sure!

 

I bet they show you nothing on both counts

 

They the police, someone higher up the food chain, would of decided that your speed was excessive, decided not to accept the FPN and proceed to the magistrates.

FPN only become binding if the police cash your money.

It happens quite alot that a FPN is issued but later withdrawn due to excessive speed. Also it lulls you, by giving all your details when stopped, you thinking you got off lightly, but later a summons arrives to kick you in the knackers

Andy

 

I believe it may be the speed detection devices in their vehicles that may have to be calibrated daily. Perhaps due to the fact that things like tyre pressures, temperatures and alike can change and alter readings on a daily basis.