Notices
Projects For Serious DIY Car Projects

'Budget' DIY Engine Rebuild

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 5, 2009 | 07:37 PM
  #481  
CDF Racing's Avatar
CDF Racing
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (49)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,222
Likes: 0
Default

^^^^ what he said
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 04:55 PM
  #482  
silent running's Avatar
silent running
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,957
Likes: 1
From: East coast.
Default

Arrived today! Nice one Chris, cheers for all the help you've given me throughout the project!
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 05:50 PM
  #483  
The Stitcher's Avatar
The Stitcher
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,067
Likes: 0
From: south wales rhondda
Default

almost there fella, bet you will start to miss posting on here so often as you have been once it's all finished and run in with not much left to do hope the start up will be ok and are you going to do a quick vid of it like matt578 did ?? forgot to say did you do the carb by pass mod ???

Last edited by The Stitcher; Jan 6, 2009 at 05:51 PM.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 07:56 PM
  #484  
silent running's Avatar
silent running
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,957
Likes: 1
From: East coast.
Default

Which bypass mod? The fuel canister? The throttle body water connection?
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 08:19 PM
  #485  
The Stitcher's Avatar
The Stitcher
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,067
Likes: 0
From: south wales rhondda
Default

Originally Posted by silent running
Which bypass mod? The fuel canister? The throttle body water connection?
sorry my fault The throttle body water connection mod as iv'e been told it's a good little mod
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 08:55 PM
  #486  
silent running's Avatar
silent running
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,957
Likes: 1
From: East coast.
Default

No, no, I tend to avoid things like that. I keep everything plumbed where it should be unless there's a very good reason for it not to be. Got enough to go wrong with my engine without adding extra potential problems!
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:26 AM
  #487  
evander's Avatar
evander
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 426
Likes: 3
From: Damp Garage
Default

Originally Posted by silent running
No, no, I tend to avoid things like that. I keep everything plumbed where it should be unless there's a very good reason for it not to be. Got enough to go wrong with my engine without adding extra potential problems!
Ive been running with this mod now since last April with no issues, even lately with the cold weather.
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 10:13 AM
  #488  
olliecampbell's Avatar
olliecampbell
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 2,699
Likes: 0
From: AL4 | W1B
Default

Originally Posted by evander
Ive been running with this mod now since last April with no issues, even lately with the cold weather.
Do divulge....

Removing the connection to keep IM temps down?
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 11:06 AM
  #489  
trails's Avatar
trails
Scooby Regular
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (41)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 13,356
Likes: 58
From: in the woods...........555 Wagon Sqn
Default

Originally Posted by olliecampbell
Do divulge....

Removing the connection to keep IM temps down?
nope the throttle body temps; the warm water is suppossed to keep the butterfly from icing up\sticking in cold weather...mine's been disconnected for over 18 months with no issues.
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 02:36 PM
  #490  
Granby's Avatar
Granby
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 5,387
Likes: 0
From: S E London........ 555 Wagon Sqn
Default

Originally Posted by trails
nope the throttle body temps; the warm water is suppossed to keep the butterfly from icing up\sticking in cold weather...mine's been disconnected for over 18 months with no issues.
Same here, very simple mod (and cheap )
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:14 PM
  #491  
StickyMicky's Avatar
StickyMicky
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,611
Likes: 0
From: Zed Ess Won Hay Tee
Default

does it have any effect?

had an old nova that used to ice up like a bugger back in the olden days and its a right ball ache when it happens
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:28 PM
  #492  
trails's Avatar
trails
Scooby Regular
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (41)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 13,356
Likes: 58
From: in the woods...........555 Wagon Sqn
Default

I've heard of people in the States have issue with the this but only in extreme weather conditions...I guess our weather coupled with the prodigious amount of heat these engines produce prevent it from freezing up.
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:42 PM
  #493  
Granby's Avatar
Granby
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 5,387
Likes: 0
From: S E London........ 555 Wagon Sqn
Default

Haven't had any problems even in the current cold spell we have
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2009 | 09:51 AM
  #494  
olliecampbell's Avatar
olliecampbell
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 2,699
Likes: 0
From: AL4 | W1B
Default

Originally Posted by trails
nope the throttle body temps; the warm water is suppossed to keep the butterfly from icing up\sticking in cold weather...mine's been disconnected for over 18 months with no issues.
Ok, that makes sense. And the benefit of disconnecting it? Less piping/more room under the TB?
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2009 | 10:30 AM
  #495  
trails's Avatar
trails
Scooby Regular
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (41)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 13,356
Likes: 58
From: in the woods...........555 Wagon Sqn
Default

Originally Posted by olliecampbell
Ok, that makes sense. And the benefit of disconnecting it? Less piping/more room under the TB?
lower temps through the TB, the pipework itself is fairly insignificant
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2009 | 11:22 AM
  #496  
olliecampbell's Avatar
olliecampbell
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 2,699
Likes: 0
From: AL4 | W1B
Default

Ahh I see
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2009 | 11:31 AM
  #497  
trails's Avatar
trails
Scooby Regular
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (41)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 13,356
Likes: 58
From: in the woods...........555 Wagon Sqn
Default

Originally Posted by olliecampbell
Ahh I see
TB taken out of the loop...apologies for th hijack Silent
Name:  IMG_4713.jpg
Views: 0
Size:  90.5 KB
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2009 | 08:18 PM
  #498  
silent running's Avatar
silent running
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,957
Likes: 1
From: East coast.
Default Almost there!

Well I just want to get it running at the moment. I'll have a think about it...

Anyway, time for another update. Went out to work on it some more last night as the pulley and hose had been sitting around for a day or two ready for fitting. First order of business was to fit that top rad hose to the water crossover pipe on the block. Removed the MAF and filter again so I could move the inlet pipe, removed the p/s fluid hard pipe in the side of the p/s tank and this made enough room to get the rad hose on and tightened up. Reassembled everything and it looked like this:



I then took the a/c compressor back off because I'd forgotten to put the bottom bracket spacer on, so it was only held on to the main bracket by two bolts instead of four. So the compressor, alternator and bracket all came back off again, put them back together properly and refitted the lot. Also the new hard anodised idler pulley went on for the a/c belt. So here's the front view with all four new lightweight pulleys on and the front belts. Rad fitting was quite straightforward: connect the bottom and top hoses, connect the two fan plugs. If you're wondering, the big hose running across the middle of the picture is part of my rocker cover catch tank system.



The intercooler pipework was made much easier to tackle by removing the front bumper. Here it is indoors - it was getting too in the way out in the garage! The boss may have something to say about this when she gets home. It's a normal early WRX bumper with a P1 style splitter on the bottom, this protects the lowest part of the intercooler.

Last edited by silent running; Jan 9, 2009 at 10:24 PM.
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2009 | 02:29 PM
  #499  
raj18_432's Avatar
raj18_432
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
Default

wow this is some post!

any idea how much its cost?

my engins also got ot be rebuilt and i am also trying to keep cost down. so would you have some top tips for me on what i should up grade etc
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2009 | 04:35 PM
  #500  
silent running's Avatar
silent running
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,957
Likes: 1
From: East coast.
Default

Top tip is shop around! Haven't done the sums yet, but as you probably worked out this is no longer a 'budget' rebuild - well it's cheap for what the final spec will be, but has easily cost the same as if I'd simply got someone like API to do a straight rebuild for me.

A minor disaster has struck. I fitted the battery and water tank and started filling it up with coolant and it started dripping from the most awkward spot imaginable, on the water pump take off that goes to the oil cooler. I can't get the car jacked high enough to get properly at it, the stupid spring clip was nowhere near tight enough, but even with a decent jubilee clip on there it just will not stop leaking. To be held up by something stupid like this right at the very last moment ..... AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2009 | 07:28 PM
  #501  
Matt578's Avatar
Matt578
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 566
Likes: 0
From: Torbay, Devon
Default

Thats a simple problem, once you got the car jacked up lol.

Take the pipe off completly and make sure your using the right size jubile clip
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2009 | 08:43 PM
  #502  
silent running's Avatar
silent running
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,957
Likes: 1
From: East coast.
Default

I'll get it properly up then fix it. I'll take the headers off to get at it easier.
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2009 | 10:28 PM
  #503  
mje_wrx's Avatar
mje_wrx
Scooby Regular
15 Year Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,654
Likes: 0
From: Merthyr Tydfil
Default

ul get there mate, just gota take ur time, i h8 fiddly jobs, come 2 learn at work no point in rushing it taking short cuts, makes it worse
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2009 | 12:05 AM
  #504  
silent running's Avatar
silent running
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,957
Likes: 1
From: East coast.
Default

Well I just went out and tackled it again. Took the crossover pipe out of the headers which improved things no end and jacked the car well up on both sides. Got the little rubber elbow pipe off the side of the water pump, loads of coolant pissed everywhere, eventually it stopped and I cleaned out and refitted the pipe. No problem, dry as a bone. Put more coolant in the top and would you believe it, it started dripping again - but not from the same place!

Right above it, in what looks like the gap between the back of the water pump sealing face and the front edge of the sump, it's leaking out again. Someone tell me there's a quick easy way to access the water pump and seal it so it never ever leaks!!!?? I used a new gasket, cleaned the sealing faces, did the bolts up to whatever they were supposed to be...
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2009 | 12:14 AM
  #505  
mje_wrx's Avatar
mje_wrx
Scooby Regular
15 Year Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,654
Likes: 0
From: Merthyr Tydfil
Default

sorry to hear that mate, i dont think there is any easy way, unless rads are out and u get full access looking at pump. maybe some gasket paste aswell as standard gasket will seal it if u can get in there.
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2009 | 08:42 AM
  #506  
silent running's Avatar
silent running
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,957
Likes: 1
From: East coast.
Default

From what I can figure it, I've basically got to take the entire front of the engine off. Rads, belt covers, all three belts etc. just to get at this damn pump.
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2009 | 12:20 PM
  #507  
mje_wrx's Avatar
mje_wrx
Scooby Regular
15 Year Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,654
Likes: 0
From: Merthyr Tydfil
Default

yeh, thats what i was thinking, look on the brightside, it may not av leaked for a few days and then broke through when driving somewhere. half a day and ul have it all fixed, im sure of it. good luck with it.
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2009 | 01:20 PM
  #508  
Pavlo's Avatar
Pavlo
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 6,316
Likes: 2
From: home
Default

pump may be dead, if coolant leaks past the shaft seal it comes out of a drain hole that exists by the block.
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2009 | 02:07 PM
  #509  
silent running's Avatar
silent running
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,957
Likes: 1
From: East coast.
Default

Ah, well it was an old one? The clearance measured up OK but I guess if there's a shaft leak...

It's definitely leaking very slowly out of the rear of the pump in a sort of void that there is there on the bottom of the block. I guess the only way to find out is to go ahead and take it all off. May be worth replacing the pump anyway then?

I noticed that the pattern water pumps have a cruddy pressed metal impeller whereas the genuine Subaru have a proper cast item. Does it matter if I get a non-genuine pump?
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 03:12 AM
  #510  
k_duraman's Avatar
k_duraman
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 765
Likes: 0
From: where there are no gatsos and no speed limits
Default

great thread mate learning a lot from you. just one question, earlier on the thread you had mentioned Scholar Engines in stowmarket. did you eventually get your engine machined over there? i remember someone not beeing very fond of them also. are they reliable? i am loking for someone to hone the cylinders on my cdb. i am in norwich area.
thanx
matt
Reply



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:04 PM.