Should she be allowed to die...?
20 March 2008, 12:35 AM
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I hope I get to make the choice to die before I end up confused, clueless, helpless and in pain such as my Grandmother was last year - but even in her condition - not knowing who any of us were, where she was, or even how old she was; she still knew one thing - that she was ready, and wanted to, die.
It is complicated, and it is emotive - but I think that you should be entitled to set down specific circumstances, while you still can, where you would not want to live anymore. Of course that in itself is difficult as how do you necessarily know if you'd want to live or not; but I think I should be allowed, as an individual with rights to my own life, to make that decision.
People have gone to jail keeping animals alive in less pain than many people suffer in their last years - we're too moral to let an animal suffer, and too moral to end a persons suffering. I struggle to get my head around that.
It makes me wonder why some people get so righteous about things like compulsory ID cards, yet are so willing to place the only thing they really do have control over - their life - into the hands of a "better knowing" state.
It is complicated, and it is emotive - but I think that you should be entitled to set down specific circumstances, while you still can, where you would not want to live anymore. Of course that in itself is difficult as how do you necessarily know if you'd want to live or not; but I think I should be allowed, as an individual with rights to my own life, to make that decision.
People have gone to jail keeping animals alive in less pain than many people suffer in their last years - we're too moral to let an animal suffer, and too moral to end a persons suffering. I struggle to get my head around that.
It makes me wonder why some people get so righteous about things like compulsory ID cards, yet are so willing to place the only thing they really do have control over - their life - into the hands of a "better knowing" state.
20 March 2008, 12:54 AM
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No more pain for her now.
^ I agree with that 
Sarah Wootton, of Dignity in Dying, which campaigns in the UK for assisted dying for the terminally ill, said: "It is immensely sad that because France has no assisted dying law, Chantal Sebire will continue to suffer.
"It is simply wrong that terminally ill people not just in France, but also in the UK, who are suffering unbearably are not being given the choice to die with dignity."
"It is simply wrong that terminally ill people not just in France, but also in the UK, who are suffering unbearably are not being given the choice to die with dignity."
20 March 2008, 01:08 AM
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So true. Why cant equal care and compassion be shown to humans - and NO I dont care about the paperwork!
It is so time the medical profession started moving on and addressing their reponsibilities here and not ducking it. They have a duty of care in life and in death in my view - they should alleviate suffering not PROLONG it in a bureauocratic way.
It is clear that life comes to an end at some point and measures should be put in place to b well deal with this - esp in degenerative diseases that often destroy the lives of the living too. It is not beyond us to arrange a 'senior' team to properly and kindly address terminal suffering in a logical way, rather than prolong it in a 'nothing to do with me guv' sort of way - surely?
This lack of compassion/responsibility will all seem very callous and very primitive one day...
D
It is so time the medical profession started moving on and addressing their reponsibilities here and not ducking it. They have a duty of care in life and in death in my view - they should alleviate suffering not PROLONG it in a bureauocratic way.
It is clear that life comes to an end at some point and measures should be put in place to b well deal with this - esp in degenerative diseases that often destroy the lives of the living too. It is not beyond us to arrange a 'senior' team to properly and kindly address terminal suffering in a logical way, rather than prolong it in a 'nothing to do with me guv' sort of way - surely?
This lack of compassion/responsibility will all seem very callous and very primitive one day...
D
20 March 2008, 06:57 AM
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Poor woman.
At least her suffering is over now.
That said - I cannot support any form of Euthanasia in any circumstances.
I know it might seem cruel on the face of it. I have a real concern that if we allow it in these exceptional circumstances it won't be too long before people are dispatched for much wider diagnoses.
At least her suffering is over now.
That said - I cannot support any form of Euthanasia in any circumstances.
I know it might seem cruel on the face of it. I have a real concern that if we allow it in these exceptional circumstances it won't be too long before people are dispatched for much wider diagnoses.
20 March 2008, 11:16 AM
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So true. Why cant equal care and compassion be shown to humans - and NO I dont care about the paperwork!
It is so time the medical profession started moving on and addressing their reponsibilities here and not ducking it. They have a duty of care in life and in death in my view - they should alleviate suffering not PROLONG it in a bureauocratic way.
It is clear that life comes to an end at some point and measures should be put in place to b well deal with this - esp in degenerative diseases that often destroy the lives of the living too. It is not beyond us to arrange a 'senior' team to properly and kindly address terminal suffering in a logical way, rather than prolong it in a 'nothing to do with me guv' sort of way - surely?
This lack of compassion/responsibility will all seem very callous and very primitive one day...
D
It is so time the medical profession started moving on and addressing their reponsibilities here and not ducking it. They have a duty of care in life and in death in my view - they should alleviate suffering not PROLONG it in a bureauocratic way.
It is clear that life comes to an end at some point and measures should be put in place to b well deal with this - esp in degenerative diseases that often destroy the lives of the living too. It is not beyond us to arrange a 'senior' team to properly and kindly address terminal suffering in a logical way, rather than prolong it in a 'nothing to do with me guv' sort of way - surely?
This lack of compassion/responsibility will all seem very callous and very primitive one day...
D
Your last sentence is so true. How we get to this new 'happy' state of affairs is a very different question however.How does it work in Switzerland?
Richard.
20 March 2008, 11:29 AM
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The BIG question is who decides when it is the right time for loved ones to go, and under what circumstances.
But be assured that we are going to have to face up to this question, probably sooner rather than later. We can't dodge it, the medical profession can't dodge it, and neither can the government. Not a happy prospect then
Richard.
PS Sorry to go on about this, but this issue is close to me at the moment. Thanks.
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