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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 12:14 PM
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Do we not seem to have the same debate every few weeks at the moment ?

I have said before, sure Rottweilers are by and large lovely dogs, trouble is that when they go wrong they eat your face, rip your arm off or eat the Baby, to avoid having your face eaten, Arm Severed or Baby eaten buy a smaller dog and when it goes postal you only get your face nipped, arm nibbled or baby slightly gnawed.

I do feel sorry for responsible Rottweiler owners with all this going on, must be depressing having people scoop up their kids and glare at you like you have the Hound of hell on the end of a lead.

Perhaps they should breed a toy Rottweiler ?
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul3446
How is that saying we are all about to get attacked by a dog at any moment?
Good grief.

You postulated that you could never say that rottwielers were safe to own, and could back that up with figures. As it turns out , you can't. I was taking you to task for making that "stats" claim.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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I've fed the troll for long enough!
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul3446
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"I just came in to prove you are talking bollocks - In that respect it's job done. "


Are you even reading the same thread?

I'll try one more time for you, this thread is about whether Rottweilers are more dangerous than other breeds of dog, still with me? Good. This is why posting up how many dog attacks there are and working out the likelihood of being attacked by any breed of dog, is pointless. Still OK?

This is why the stats that I produced, with a breakdown of number of attacks by different breeds are relevant. Even though you seems to think that because the dogs are American they are somehow irrelevant.
Actually, no.

This thread was about a 78 year old man who was "mauled" by his dog.

The dog was a Rottwieler and therefore many have jumped on the bandwagon.

The french woman who lost the lower part of her face appears to be a similar story - she was comatose and her dog (most certainly not a Rottweiler) caused the damage over a long period of time trying to revive her.

There are other similar stories involving different breeds of dog from accross the world.

In this case, as has been reported in this thread, the dog was most probably trying to revive him the way dogs do - start by licking which then will sometimes progress into chewing as happened with the french woman, and may well have happened here.

Interesting how the only person injured was the owner - and yet the dog was "dangerously out of control" Ok, yeah, whatever...

Of course, the headline, "Man dies in tragic circumstances after his dog tries unsuccessfully to revive him" doesn't have quite the same punch as "dog kills owner in horror attack"

Does it?

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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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I think there are very few dogs or breeds that are inherently bad - I would bet 99% of problems with dogs are down to their owners.

Unfortunately for Rottweilers, Staffies, Pit Bulls etc... a certain type of person seems to be attracted to these dogs ( without mincing words - skinny **** pikey low lives who probably have the dog as protection against all the people who would give them a well deserved shoeing otherwise ! ) and these owners are the ones who dont train or keep proper control of their dogs.

But just to show that even the most loyal and intelligent dogs can be violent - our border collie has grown to the perfect size where every time she jumps up to play with me she smacks me in the *****. Her aim is so good I'm sure its not just a coincidence though !
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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Just out of interest, isnt it amazing (for those that watch) how many small and medium dogs are aggressive and problematic on the Dog Whisperer.

2 yorkshire terriers and a lil mutt wanted a piece of Tuvaaq on his walk the other day. The only difference, they dont have the power to follow through in the same way. That in my opinion is the major difference, and why you rarely see "savage poodle" "yorkshire terrier killing spree" "jack russell ate my wife" and all the other ott headlines you get.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeCardiff
I think there are very few dogs or breeds that are inherently bad - I would bet 99% of problems with dogs are down to their owners.

Unfortunately for Rottweilers, Staffies, Pit Bulls etc... a certain type of person seems to be attracted to these dogs ( without mincing words - skinny **** pikey low lives who probably have the dog as protection against all the people who would give them a well deserved shoeing otherwise ! ) and these owners are the ones who dont train or keep proper control of their dogs.

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Absolutely, let me be clear about this so as not to upset the responsible "big" dog owners. There are many good owners out there, but unquestionably these dogs do appeal to those who just want them as a status symbol and have no intention of looking after/training them properly. Of course, undesirables end up with other "smaller" breeds too, but if they go to town the potential for serious harm is obviously diminished - bites often don't even make the papers! Big dogs+bad owners = Trouble!

Blame the deed, not the breed!
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
In this case, as has been reported in this thread, the dog was most probably trying to revive him the way dogs do
By administering 'Serious head injuries'?!

So thats one hell of a good reason not to want to have one sat at home waiting for you to come back from the pub after a few too many then yes?

Or do you say "Here now lishen to me Tyshon me besht mate, Ahm proper fooked off metits, Ahm gonna pash out now, but mind, dont you be chewing me faysh off while Ahm out will yer, eh, will yer, yer big shoftt bashtard yer"

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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 02:30 PM
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Tyson wouldn't actually understand what you were saying even if you were sober, let alone drunk!!
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Tyson wouldn't actually understand what you were saying even if you were sober, let alone drunk!!
sorry i am lost is this the football or the rottie thread?
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
sorry i am lost is this the football or the rottie thread?
Any football I've ever known has been called Tyson, does that help?

Remember when Maradona used his hand to put Tyson away in the quarter-final match of the 1986 World cup?
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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I don't give a **** about statistics, I wouldn't let a rottie/dobermann/stff anywhere near my little lad.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Weaver
I don't give a **** about statistics, I wouldn't let a rottie/dobermann/stff anywhere near my little lad.
What about a car? Would you let him in one of those?

I mean he is far, far ,far more likely to come to harm from being in a car than any dog.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
What about a car? Would you let him in one of those?

I mean he is far, far ,far more likely to come to harm from being in a car than any dog.
I disagree with that, Pete. A child would be far more likely to be in danger inside a dog than a car.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
What about a car? Would you let him in one of those?

I mean he is far, far ,far more likely to come to harm from being in a car than any dog.

not again, please - no more!
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
I disagree with that, Pete. A child would be far more likely to be in danger inside a dog than a car.
I bet the dog would fart like a b@stard!
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
I bet the dog would fart like a b@stard!
Totally agree and a highly volatile situation for any child to be in.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Suresh
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it was only when police officers discharged six fire extinguishers at the dog that it released its owner.
I love dogs but...I don't buy the gently waking him up via a lick,then a nibble etc
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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police officers discharged six fire extinguishers at the dog
Is that all they had??...Tazers? CS gas? batons?..... Or a better idea:

Hit the thing with the but-end of the estinguisher as hard as possible.





....and I'm a dog lover
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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My wife was attacked by an Alsatian when she was younger.
She knew the dog well, it had been friendly on many occasions, it just so happens on the day in question she walked into the house before her friend who owned the dog and the attack ensued.
You can debate for hours regarding this but looking at it from the perspective of the person attacked, there are certain dogs that should not be pets and there are certain owners that shouldn't have pets at all never mind dogs...
Why someone needs a great big dog in suburbia baffles me, but each to their own i suppose.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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When did he last feed his doggie ?
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Norman D. Landing
By administering 'Serious head injuries'?!

So thats one hell of a good reason not to want to have one sat at home waiting for you to come back from the pub after a few too many then yes?

Or do you say "Here now lishen to me Tyshon me besht mate, Ahm proper fooked off metits, Ahm gonna pash out now, but mind, dont you be chewing me faysh off while Ahm out will yer, eh, will yer, yer big shoftt bashtard yer"

Absolutely - anyone with any sense knows that Rotties like a beer and should be taken with you to said pub
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
What about a car? Would you let him in one of those?

I mean he is far, far ,far more likely to come to harm from being in a car than any dog.
So if I sit him in a car, or dangle him in front of a hungry rottweiler, he's at more danger from being in the car?

I'll take my chances if I had a choice between putting him in a car or placing him near a Rottie.

I love dogs, Rotties are nice looking dogs as well (unlike staffs/pit bulls ), but as has been said they must be inherently more angry than other dogs. I had a Lab from 0-14 years old and the most danger I had was from her eating the tea off my plate when I wasn't looking.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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I just read about this on a website, so its gone from rottweiller attacks mauls and kills his owner, to finally the truth which is, man has heart attack, people see the man fall to the ground and the dog put its head near the man and nuzzle him, police come in with fire extinguishers automatically assuming the "I read the sun newspaper mentality" and end up shooting the dog without actually checking to see if the dog actually bit the man.... (which from what I can gather he didnt).

nice to see the usual morons jumping in with both feet
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by shaggy1973
I just read about this on a website, so its gone from rottweiller attacks mauls and kills his owner, to finally the truth which is, man has heart attack, people see the man fall to the ground and the dog put its head near the man and nuzzle him, police come in with fire extinguishers automatically assuming the "I read the sun newspaper mentality" and end up shooting the dog without actually checking to see if the dog actually bit the man.... (which from what I can gather he didnt).

nice to see the usual morons jumping in with both feet
Funny that.

Quote from sky news:

"a worker at a nearby cab firm insisted that the dog was not attacking the man but trying to help him.

Lee Hanson said: "The man was face down and the dog was trying to wake him up.

"The dog wasn't attacking him at all... it was his own dog. It was banging his head, trying to wake him up."

Mr Hanson said he would see the man walking past the offices every day and he and the dog appeared to be "best friends"."

Its about time news broadcasters were called to account for the sensationalist rubbish that they publish.

Oh, and it was one, not six, fire extinguishers and the dog ran off. No wonder - was probably terrified.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by shaggy1973
I just read about this on a website, so its gone from rottweiller attacks mauls and kills his owner, to finally the truth which is, man has heart attack, people see the man fall to the ground and the dog put its head near the man and nuzzle him, police come in with fire extinguishers automatically assuming the "I read the sun newspaper mentality" and end up shooting the dog without actually checking to see if the dog actually bit the man.... (which from what I can gather he didnt).

nice to see the usual morons jumping in with both feet
always glad to oblidge

the reality was pretty much much as i summised yesterday BTW

still, YOU own a dangerous dog so what do you know anyhow
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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THe question is - should Suresh (who we know hates big dogs and hence may have alterior motive for posting, well, ****e) be infracted for trolling
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ex mod, know it all
always glad to oblidge

the reality was pretty much much as i summised yesterday BTW

still, YOU own a dangerous dog so what do you know anyhow
who said I was talking about you?

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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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LOL - exmod, know it all
cheeky git!
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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always glad to oblige
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