Well that's the problem. How do you define *average* temperature? How do you work it out? How do you have enough temperature guages over the entire planets surface to do that? (Satellite temperature measuring has only been available for 30 years or so ). How do you *correct* for the vast areas of ocean that don't get measured? How do you correct for the vast areas of the land mass that don't get measured? etc etc Take a look at the old interweb for references to swathes of Soviet stations that fell into disrepair on the collapse of the empire. Look for details of US stations where the temperature guage is beside an air conditioning plant exhaust etc etc

And this turned up today - a reputable scientist, expert in his field, calling the IPCC and the whole GW debate into serious question. Have a read of: DailyTech - Noted Sea Level Expert Accuses IPCC of Falsifying Data

From there: "A noted expert in sea level change has accused UN's IPCC panel of falsifying and destroying data (PDF) to support the panel's official conclusion of a rising sea level trend. The accusations include surreptitious substitution of datasets, selective use of data, presenting computer model simulations as physical data, and even the destruction of physical markers which fail to demonstrate sea level rise" etc etc

And: "Mörner says it's becoming increasingly hard to perform objective climate research. In the European Community, a prerequisite for research grants is that the focus must be on global warming. Papers which don't support global warming aren't funded. "That's what dictatorships did, autocracies." He added, "They demanded that scientists produce what they wanted." And some on here amongst us *amateurs* wonder why we're sceptical about the whole GW process!

Maybe the following extract may help: "Dr. Mörner also had harsh words for the Maldives government. When the Maldives Sea Level Project concluded there was no threat to from rising sea levels, a documentary was made to reassure residents. The government, however, banned airing of the film. According to Mörner, the rationale for the ban was financial. The Maldives stands to gain hundreds of millions of dollars in climate change aid from Western governments. "Because they thought that they would lose money." He said, "They accuse the West for putting out carbon dioxide, so they wanted the flooding scenario to go on." "

Hey - the west is getting fleeced ......... it's governments as well as it's citizens by their governments! Oh that'll be fleeced twice over then!

Anyone who believe whole heartedly in MMGW really has not taken a step back and looked at the evidence. You don't need to be an *expert* to decide which evidence is most credible. Just have some common sense and a a grain of intelligence to understand, not even, the scientific process, just plain figuresd in black and white.

My old man used to tell me that politicians were out for one thing - money. This whole MMGW scam just reinforces his point; just that they use it (and terrorism) as an excuse to grab more power over us *proles* and thus even more money!

Rant over ....

Dave