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21 October 2007, 06:49 PM
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Forgive me for being sceptical, but if the drama's that Lewis has had on the last 2 races had happened to Alonso I wonder what would have happened to Mclaren ??
In China he was left out by his team on shot tyres that anyone with a tv could see. Then today, yes he messed up the start, but never seen a car loose drive for a full 30 seconds and then complete the full race without any further cliches, and to top it off why give him 3 stops when the time difference clearly cost him 5th place.
All very strange to me ???
In China he was left out by his team on shot tyres that anyone with a tv could see. Then today, yes he messed up the start, but never seen a car loose drive for a full 30 seconds and then complete the full race without any further cliches, and to top it off why give him 3 stops when the time difference clearly cost him 5th place.
All very strange to me ???
21 October 2007, 07:01 PM
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Ron Dennis trying to justify the three stops too by saying they gained 10 seconds. How they hell does stopping one too many times gain you 10 seconds?
No-one could understand the three stop strategy when it was happening.
As for the car cutting out for 30 seconds, very odd!!!
No-one could understand the three stop strategy when it was happening.
As for the car cutting out for 30 seconds, very odd!!!
21 October 2007, 07:35 PM
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Ron Dennis trying to justify the three stops too by saying they gained 10 seconds. How they hell does stopping one too many times gain you 10 seconds?
No-one could understand the three stop strategy when it was happening.
As for the car cutting out for 30 seconds, very odd!!!
No-one could understand the three stop strategy when it was happening.
As for the car cutting out for 30 seconds, very odd!!!
This needs to be investigated in my opinion.
21 October 2007, 08:30 PM
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Kimi's stealth steal of the title, I don't like the guy..but I think his title is well deserved given the un-proffesionalism shown by Mclaren this year...
As Bernnie said, Lewis has years of success available to him.
He will mop up next year and many more times in the future.
Good race..mmmmmmmmmm wouldn't say it was the best of 2007..but it had its moments
Here's to 2008 and Lewis's rise to the top once more....
Good riddens Fernando..come on Ron give him the boot...
As Bernnie said, Lewis has years of success available to him.
He will mop up next year and many more times in the future.
Good race..mmmmmmmmmm wouldn't say it was the best of 2007..but it had its moments
Here's to 2008 and Lewis's rise to the top once more....
Good riddens Fernando..come on Ron give him the boot...
21 October 2007, 08:33 PM
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Surely a longer 2nd stop would have paid dividends....he would have made up time staying out longer and taking advantage of others pit stops. He had already made up time through the back markers to around 10th (I think) and needed to make up on the 5th - 7th placed drivers - an extra couple of seconds in the pitstop and a little weight would have been better? He was always going to lose out on a splash and dash at the end unless he could make a buffer in 5th which was unlikely!
21 October 2007, 08:35 PM
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Just hope that Kimmi winning the title makes him a bit more friendly to TV&Fans in 2008, Well done Lewis you made us proud, and Ron sack Alonso, in my eyes he should have been sacked along with Delarosa when they found out what was going on earlier in the year.
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21 October 2007, 09:20 PM
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Yeah, you have got to love ITV coverage ,we have an ad break and it looks like a different race you come back too. As for Lewis's Mclaren losing drive for 30 seconds WTF is that all about , i was under the impression that these cars were full of cutting edge electronics and highly tuned engines engineered to tolerances that they either work or they dont, not spluttering like a 25 year old escort with a damp distributor cap.
For the money and expertise involved in F1 , there is something really fishy when one of the biggest teams make errors a schoolboy karting team wouldn't make.
As for cutting through the field like only he can,in reality there is only about 4 cars that you could do it in .
F1, the pinnacle of motorsport my ****.
For the money and expertise involved in F1 , there is something really fishy when one of the biggest teams make errors a schoolboy karting team wouldn't make.
As for cutting through the field like only he can,in reality there is only about 4 cars that you could do it in .
F1, the pinnacle of motorsport my ****.
21 October 2007, 09:32 PM
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McLaren may have left him out for too long in China, but at the end of the day he was in the driving seat, he could feel what the car was doing. All he had to do was slow down and he wouldn't have ended up in the gravel.
As for today, he threw it away. He put himself in eighth because he wanted to try get back past Alonso. OK, the transmission problem is not his fault, nor the pit strategy, but had Senna or Schumacher been in that position, you can bet they would have finished higher than he did.
He's good, but he ain't that good, and his inexperience has shown in the last two races, which is understandable as he is a rookie.
He may well win it in the future, only time will tell. He doe not strike me as a wunderkind though.
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As for today, he threw it away. He put himself in eighth because he wanted to try get back past Alonso. OK, the transmission problem is not his fault, nor the pit strategy, but had Senna or Schumacher been in that position, you can bet they would have finished higher than he did.
He's good, but he ain't that good, and his inexperience has shown in the last two races, which is understandable as he is a rookie.
He may well win it in the future, only time will tell. He doe not strike me as a wunderkind though.
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21 October 2007, 11:13 PM
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As for today, he threw it away. He put himself in eighth because he wanted to try get back past Alonso. OK, the transmission problem is not his fault, nor the pit strategy, but had Senna or Schumacher been in that position, you can bet they would have finished higher than he did.
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IMO I don't think they would have, I mean, a car can only been driven so fast and considering he basically made 1x pit stop more than the cars in front of him and then maybe even another one if you take into account the 30 odd seconds he got held up for when he had his mysterious "gearbox problem", he didn't do too bad.
Then on top of that he had to make up about 17 seconds or something to catch the next car in front with about 7 laps to go I think it was??? I think for the problems etc he had I don't think it would matter if your name was Schumacher, you wouldn't have finished too much further up the field, if at all?
22 October 2007, 12:48 AM
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I think Rosberg, Hekki and maybe Kubica could be as good as Hamilton, or even better - but they aren't in the best car on the grid. I think Rosberg is also looking especially good.
McLaren are $100m down for next season, and Ferrari have ended the season with clearly the faster car - and generally who is ahead at the end of the season starts off the best next season. McLaren could potentially slip down the grid - BMW or Renault could pip them and then things might not look so rosy for Hamilton.
Dont get me wrong hes done a great job, but whenever there's a new driver in F1 its all hype. He's probably had the best debute of any rookie driver, but then what other rookie driver has been in the best car in his first season?
You need luck to be successful too - pick the wrong team, and spend a few years in the mid-field and you are soon forgotten, and the 'next big thing' driver is taking the headlines.
22 October 2007, 11:14 AM
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22 October 2007, 01:35 PM
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That start was a joke and can't believe thats allowed as sporting behaviour, Massa pulls right across the track blocking Hamilton to allow Raikenen to pass then also causing Alonso to duck past.
B.Ecclestone is a total crook plain and simple just from the way he has been treating Silverstone and trying to kill the British round of F1 and I don't doubt for one minute he had a hand to play in making sure the new boy didn't steam into his Championship and win it first time round. He even said before the race he expected and wanted Alonso to win it. A car cuts out for 30 seconds and then finishes the rest of the race fine, oh come on please and thats after being crowded out by two Ferraris in an unsporting manner.
Yesterdays race ruined what had been the best F1 season i've seen since the days of Mansell/Prost/Senna, and not because of the result but because of what went on during the race.
B.Ecclestone is a total crook plain and simple just from the way he has been treating Silverstone and trying to kill the British round of F1 and I don't doubt for one minute he had a hand to play in making sure the new boy didn't steam into his Championship and win it first time round. He even said before the race he expected and wanted Alonso to win it. A car cuts out for 30 seconds and then finishes the rest of the race fine, oh come on please and thats after being crowded out by two Ferraris in an unsporting manner.
Yesterdays race ruined what had been the best F1 season i've seen since the days of Mansell/Prost/Senna, and not because of the result but because of what went on during the race.
22 October 2007, 02:30 PM
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Unsportman like behaviour should not be tolerated but then if they had ever enforced that Schumacher would have been in permanent trouble If you're saying any tactic is game then Hamilton should have waited at the back for Alonso and Raikenen to come round and knock them off if you want a game of destruction derby on your F1 race track. If you're not suggesting that then where do YOU draw the line?
22 October 2007, 02:38 PM
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Its also a sport with supposed rules Unsportman like behaviour should not be tolerated but then if they had ever enforced that Schumacher would have been in permanent trouble
If you're saying any tactic is game then Hamilton should have waited at the back for Alonso and Raikenen to come round and knock them off if you want a game of destruction derby on your F1 race track. If you're not suggesting that then where do YOU draw the line?
Unsportman like behaviour should not be tolerated but then if they had ever enforced that Schumacher would have been in permanent trouble If you're saying any tactic is game then Hamilton should have waited at the back for Alonso and Raikenen to come round and knock them off if you want a game of destruction derby on your F1 race track. If you're not suggesting that then where do YOU draw the line?
22 October 2007, 02:42 PM
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Try watching Touring Cars. It's like dodgems and yet everyone enjoys it and it if goes too far they sort it out behind the garages after the race.
Like F1 said, it's racing and that's what happens when very competitive drivers in quick cars come into close proximity.
Like F1 said, it's racing and that's what happens when very competitive drivers in quick cars come into close proximity.
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