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Old 25 April 2007, 10:16 PM
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nice write up fella.
dave nearly had to pick my car up, made enquiries with dave etc but luckily the noice was a bolt from one of the belt guides, and again lucky it didnt do any damage at all, so lock tighted them both and been fine ever since (touchwood), in some sort of strange way i was looking forward to going down there lol
Your engine is looking mint.
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Originally Posted by staffi
Burns, are you going to the meet at the OAK in Coventry sunday??
A bit too far for me, mate, it would be a 140 mile round trip. I'm also very anti-social
Old 26 April 2007, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 911
I wish you lot would NOT post this kind of stuff!
You all know i need one rather than want one!!

Fab car Burns, guess you can remove those ??? in your title now?
David is stripping mine now for Rob (transmission) to remove the front lsd even though David recons its all ok.

Graham.
It's taken me ages to work out what ??? in my title is,as you can see I've finally worked it out I scare myself sometimes
have you decided what to do with that lsd now?
Old 26 April 2007, 08:22 AM
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Tell us all about the

"we removed the dumpvalve because you don’t need it"....

Isn't this introducing compressor stall leading to lag ? I know we're dealing with a different turbo beast, and I'm sure API know exactly what they are doing I'm just interested
Old 26 April 2007, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by funkyspider
Tell us all about the

"we removed the dumpvalve because you don’t need it"....

Isn't this introducing compressor stall leading to lag ? I know we're dealing with a different turbo beast, and I'm sure API know exactly what they are doing I'm just interested
Compressor stall yes ,lag definately no, if I sort out the sound file you can hear, once on boost there is no noticeable lag at all.
it just pulls hard ,if you let off and then open up again it's off like a rocket.
Old 26 April 2007, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by funkyspider
Tell us all about the

"we removed the dumpvalve because you don’t need it"....

Isn't this introducing compressor stall leading to lag ? I know we're dealing with a different turbo beast, and I'm sure API know exactly what they are doing I'm just interested
That MD321T will cope Ok with no dump valve. Some turbos will, some won't and if it works, the noise from the wastegate chatter is far better and more realistic of a 'real' car than all that damn wheezing you get from most dump valves.

On a 2.5 that 321T is the most ' happening ' turbo we've used and is our first choice for most road cars. If you want similar on a 2.0 we'd use a 321H.

David APi

Pleased to know that all is OK with the car Mr Burns. Hopefully your ' spendathon ' is now over. Good Luck
Old 26 April 2007, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by burns
not too far away but I did have a new clutch , lightweight flywheel and some other work done as well samco hoses,wheel bearing etc.
Basically a new car. Sounds great!!
Old 26 April 2007, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by APIDavid
That MD321T will cope Ok with no dump valve. Some turbos will, some won't and if it works, the noise from the wastegate chatter is far better and more realistic of a 'real' car than all that damn wheezing you get from most dump valves.

On a 2.5 that 321T is the most ' happening ' turbo we've used and is our first choice for most road cars. If you want similar on a 2.0 we'd use a 321H.

David APi

Pleased to know that all is OK with the car Mr Burns. Hopefully your ' spendathon ' is now over. Good Luck
Joking ain'tcha .......now how much would a ppg set be.......
Old 26 April 2007, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by burns
A bit too far for me, mate, it would be a 140 mile round trip. I'm also very anti-social
I thought you were closer fella...
Old 26 April 2007, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by burns
Joking ain'tcha .......now how much would a ppg set be.......
Shhhhhhh !
Old 26 April 2007, 12:59 PM
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At 470 lbft, you will soon find out!
LSD is coming out and the '911 Friendly' open diff going in.

I think when the time comes for a ppg then i will find (= try to) an ATB frony diff, but if David is right about the output of my engine (less than the 380 i think i have/had) then i won't need one ever...

That car of yours would make a very good hillclimber.
When is peak torque?

Nice job done David/Burns.
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What`s a ppg guys ??
Old 26 April 2007, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by APIDavid
That MD321T will cope Ok with no dump valve. Some turbos will, some won't and if it works, the noise from the wastegate chatter is far better and more realistic of a 'real' car than all that damn wheezing you get from most dump valves.

On a 2.5 that 321T is the most ' happening ' turbo we've used and is our first choice for most road cars. If you want similar on a 2.0 we'd use a 321H.

David APi

Pleased to know that all is OK with the car Mr Burns. Hopefully your ' spendathon ' is now over. Good Luck
sorry to be pedantic.. but the noise is not the wastegate chattering.. but the turbo blades stalling as the air passes back through the turbo the wrong way.. it is a great sound but has nothing to do with the wastegate.

Some rally commentator from years ago has a lot to answer for creating that myth.

Simon
Old 26 April 2007, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by staffi
What`s a ppg guys ??
gear set manuafaturer.. ie. being referred to as a stronger gearset.
Old 26 April 2007, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
gear set manuafaturer.. ie. being referred to as a stronger gearset.


Ar, ok....
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Originally Posted by staffi
What`s a ppg guys ??
Graham, your department I believe
Old 26 April 2007, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by APIDavid
....If you want similar on a 2.0 we'd use a 321H.
How much would one of these be, and what supporting mods would you need?
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
sorry to be pedantic.. but the noise is not the wastegate chattering.. but the turbo blades stalling as the air passes back through the turbo the wrong way.. it is a great sound but has nothing to do with the wastegate.

Some rally commentator from years ago has a lot to answer for creating that myth.

Simon
David does know this ,but I think he was typing tooooo fast.
I still find it a bit scary as you hear the compressor wheel chatter when it chops up the air.It is definitely distintive though
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Originally Posted by burns
David does know this ,but I think he was typing tooooo fast.
I still find it a bit scary as you hear the compressor wheel chatter when it chops up the air.It is definitely distintive though

Does it have any ill effect on the turbo though
Old 26 April 2007, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by staffi
Does it have any ill effect on the turbo though
It depends on the turbo David is confident that the MD321T will handle it.
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Originally Posted by burns
It depends on the turbo David is confident that the MD321T will handle it.


Ar, ok. So you`re chuffed to bits then Burns? i bet that torque feels amazing?
Old 26 April 2007, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by burns
It depends on the turbo David is confident that the MD321T will handle it.
And if it doesn't I am sure he will relieve your bank account of another few £££££££s to put right the damage

Of course, it will be due to 'heatsoak' 'oil change' 'weak MAF' 'slow ECU' 'Det' 'Dodgy Piston 4'

I love watching you lot .......................

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NB. API have a fine reputation - I am NOT questioning that .... just observing things
Old 26 April 2007, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
And if it doesn't I am sure he will relieve your bank account of another few £££££££s to put right the damage

Of course, it will be due to 'heatsoak' 'oil change' 'weak MAF' 'slow ECU' 'Det' 'Dodgy Piston 4'

I love watching you lot .......................

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NB. API have a fine reputation - I am NOT questioning that .... just observing things
Mr lewis,once again you are the voice of reason , a protective avatar if you will, for when we start to go over the top with "modding fever",if the turbo fails in 6 months do you think API would say "sorry mate it's the ........."
I doubt it, I was careful to give my business to a reputable company, they have completely rebuilt the entire engine,drivetrain, supplied and fitted all of the mods.
A reputation is earned ,it is also very easily destroyed.I have not seen a complaint about API regarding warranty issues,and feel completely confident in API should any problem arise.

I agree though you can go completely nuts when you do start modding so keep em peeled sir.
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
sorry to be pedantic.. but the noise is not the wastegate chattering.. but the turbo blades stalling as the air passes back through the turbo the wrong way.. it is a great sound but has nothing to do with the wastegate.

Some rally commentator from years ago has a lot to answer for creating that myth.

Simon
Wastegate chatter is easier to say and usually brings a sage nod - ' Turbine stall ' creates too many questions.

LOL

David APi
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Originally Posted by Neanderthal
How much would one of these be, and what supporting mods would you need?

321H is quite a big turbo [ £1300.00 + VAT ] and will get you into 400 / 420 hp on a 2.0 providing: steel rods, forged pistons, IE a properly built engine. FMIC, Fuel pump, Injectors, 3 inch exhaust, headers, etc etc. It is not a turbo that I / we would fit on a car with a few miles on it. Ideally on a recent or freshly built motor.

For a full spec and pricing call me.

David APi
Old 26 April 2007, 03:44 PM
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I recently had mine rebuilt by them and were very pleasant to deal with. Currently in the running in phase and back for an oil change at 1k miles then another 500 miles after that. Mine was only a standard rebuild though after I put a rod through the side!






Didn't get a buttie, but got a cool cup
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Originally Posted by APIDavid
321H is quite a big turbo [ £1300.00 + VAT ] and will get you into 400 / 420 hp on a 2.0 providing: steel rods, forged pistons, IE a properly built engine. FMIC, Fuel pump, Injectors, 3 inch exhaust, headers, etc etc. It is not a turbo that I / we would fit on a car with a few miles on it. Ideally on a recent or freshly built motor.

For a full spec and pricing call me.

David APi
What about running on a NewAge STi?
Old 26 April 2007, 05:18 PM
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Does anyone on here actually fancy taking their own engine out, stripping it down and rebuilding it??

It's a simple engine, it holds no fears for us who have taken many engines apart in the past .... the feeling of achievement as you run-in your own re-build .... the warm feeling as your Bank Balance is still relatively intact

Of course, engine rebuilding scares some people - but, it shouldn't .... really, it's about as basic as Engineering comes.

Sadly, I reckon I may be too old to do the heavy work now ..... a Micra Gearbox and Clutch was done by me a couple of months ago and it was a thoroughly pleasant activity - if a little wearing at my age.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Does anyone on here actually fancy taking their own engine out, stripping it down and rebuilding it??
No thanks - that sounds scarey ! Brakes & oil changes for me - everything else to a wee oily person in overalls with a big bank balance.
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
No thanks - that sounds scarey ! Brakes & oil changes for me - everything else to a wee oily person in overalls with a big bank balance.

I'm not so wee when l stand up straight. It's only me wallet making me round shouldered

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