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Old 02 April 2007, 09:21 AM
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Each to their own!!

To prolong or not to prolong?..That is the question!
Old 02 April 2007, 09:57 AM
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Nothing better then to pull up after a belting run out and just turn the TT on and lock up and sod off to whatever you need to do - great bit of kit
Old 02 April 2007, 12:20 PM
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How do you get on with insurance with these fitted..? Do you declare I wonder, as I can't see them being very happy about it..?

As said, just take it easy the last mile/min or two, most people live in residential area's so unless you're one of these tools who drives like an idiot down these streets, then you'll should be taking it easy anyhow..!

Now if you lived in a m'way service....! (BTW how many of you think about this before stopping at a service station for fuel..?)

Finally, newage cars do 'percolate' (iirc) the coolant around the turbo after the engine is switched off, I still however, take it easy, mainly as I live in a residential area..
Old 02 April 2007, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonius

As said, just take it easy the last mile/min or two, most people live in residential area's so unless you're one of these tools who drives like an idiot down these streets, then you'll should be taking it easy anyhow..!
my sentiments exactly!!
Old 02 April 2007, 12:51 PM
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What about runs out in the countryside/moterway driving etc - I dont mean its to be used for poping to the shops

it just saves you time sitting about after a sudden stop to have a ****
and its great for warming your car up on a cold morning without worrying your car will get nicked
Old 02 April 2007, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 360ste
Why would Subaru fit something that has the possiblity of reducing profit. At anything from £700 to £1500 approx, for a new turbo upto £50 for a Turbo timer seems a good idea. Up here in the North of Scotland mine is also used first thing in the morning to warm the car up to allow it to de-ice or in summer to run the air-con to cool the car down.
I was told you should never start the car cold and leave it to warm up ???
Old 02 April 2007, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray_li
and the look on peoples faces when you walk away with the engine running is worth it
I was going to put that.

I had one fitted to my little Ren 5 GT Turbo back in th late 80`s.

The amount of people who came running after me once I`d parked up, "Here mate you`ve left the engine running".

If I had a pound..............................
Old 02 April 2007, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
I was told you should never start the car cold and leave it to warm up ???
Give up.
Old 06 April 2007, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
I was told you should never start the car cold and leave it to warm up ???
That's mainly because the transmission will still be cold and therefore need warming up on the road, so you may as well do both together IMHO..

Also, presumably the engine will be under absolutely no load so not really a proper warm up..!

Therefore if you think you can idle the engine for 10 mins and then drive like you stole it you're in for a surprise before long..! If however, it's just to warm the heater up in the winter before you get in then that's ok, if you must, but a waste of fuel if you ask me..
Old 06 April 2007, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Thevoicewithin
Give up.


Excessive idling isnt that great for your car. It builds carbon because of low velocity of intake/exhaust gasses. Oil also does not do a great job at idle. The oil doesn't move as freely and thus cause more engine wear
Old 06 April 2007, 01:15 PM
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There's a couple of things here.

The time is not there to allow the turbo to slow down, they accelerate and decelerate very quickly.

They don't use a white metal bearing as in the bottom end, a sleeve bearing is a different thing using boundry lubrication rather than hydrodynamic. It won't wipe like a white metal one will. Some of the IHI turbos use roller bearings instead which is still no issue.

All the subaru turbos are auto cooling once stopped. For a modern synthetic oil to sludge you'd need to hit 200+ centegrade. If you did your coolant would boil and pop the pressure relief on the header tank. If that's happening every time you drive you're probably doing something wrong.

Just take it fairly easy on the car for a couple of mins before you park.

Take a look how many members are on here, then see how many blown turbo threads there are. Not many I bet.
Old 06 April 2007, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Prasius
As it is, I very much doubt you'd apply the handbrake if your upside down in a ditch before you turn your ignition off!!
Old 07 April 2007, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RB5_245
All the subaru turbos are auto cooling once stopped. For a modern synthetic oil to sludge you'd need to hit 200+ centegrade. If you did your coolant would boil and pop the pressure relief on the header tank. If that's happening every time you drive you're probably doing something wrong.
It's pretty obvious turbo temperatures create an isolated area that exceeds this value, just as exhaust gases do.... Water temperature isn't an indication of the turbo temp, or am I missing something....
Old 11 April 2007, 04:28 PM
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Yes, the water constantly circulates. Natural convection does this while the engine is stopped so the hot spots are still being cooled via the water jacket once the you've shut down.

If that wasn't the case you'd get localised boiling in the water jacket.
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