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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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for one you can drive carelessly at 20mph moron

and if you refering to my accident, you can still drive at 100mph down a straight part of the road until you come to a badly judged corner, by the time brakes have been pressed, you skidded past your turn in point and then gone off the road, along a bit of dirt and then finally hit something, quite a bit of speed can be scrubbed off. you don't need to be driving at 30mph to hit something at 30mph unless your asleep
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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poor guy

3 hours to cut out must have been unbearable
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 11:48 PM
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RB5SCOTT
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Have you hit a tree at 30???.......I have, being driven by a mate that was being a total pratt left the road at 40 mph probably doing around 30mph when a tree slamed into my door... guess what? i climbed out of his side a walked home. I would estimate that this policeman may have been going a fair bit quicker.
So?

My sister in law hit a lamp post at something under 30, in a car being driven by a complete ****.

She didn't come home. Ever.

Your point is what? That circumstances are different in each collision? That the facts aren't known outside of the collision investigator's office yet? That any of us could be in the same position through bad luck, a momentary lapse in judgement, a fluke of physics or some combination of the three?

If so, well done - you've made it admirably. If not then I'd respectfully suggest you're talking bollocks.

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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by G00ner
Damp patch, spillage, puncture or any manner of mechanical fault, to speculate without the facts is moronic at best.

This may have been the answer nobdy can remark on this accident without the full facts, but sadly i don't think we will ever know I just fill so sad for the guy, being trapped in a smashed vehicle for 3 hours is something I can relate too, but I came away in tact, although be it I smashed my leg, knee hip ankles and i had to learn to walk again, all thanks to a drunk driver
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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Irrespective of the cause, we should all feel sorry for the guy. To lose both legs must be earth shattering. His life will obviously never be the same. He will live with the results for the rest of his life. Have some sympathy for Gods sake, there's little in some of these posts.

We dont know the cause of the accident, what speed he was travelling or anything. To easy to jump to conclusions.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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Damp patch, spillage, puncture or any manner of mechanical fault, to speculate without the facts is moronic at best.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Sbradley
So?

My sister in law hit a lamp post at something under 30, in a car being driven by a complete ****.

She didn't come home. Ever.

Your point is what? That circumstances are different in each collision? That the facts aren't known outside of the collision investigator's office yet? That any of us could be in the same position through bad luck, a momentary lapse in judgement, a fluke of physics or some combination of the three?

If so, well done - you've made it admirably. If not then I'd respectfully suggest you're talking bollocks.

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I think some of the posts on this thread show this forum is indeed the pits !

I agree with the comments above and as someone whose job is to manage and investigate serious and fatal accidents can equally say I have seen a car into a tree at under 30 where the young lad in the passenger seat is no longer with us! The car was totally destroyed.

RB5SCOTT - Without full knowledge of the incident your comments are ignorant to say the least and show a lack of care for any human being that is sadly predictable in modern society.....

I also find it sad that there are comments such as this on a site for Scooby enthusiasts - what does it say about Scooby owners .... you just don't seem to get this on other forums to the degree it is evident here . I think unfortunately that says alot!

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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by r32
Irrespective of the cause, we should all feel sorry for the guy. To lose both legs must be earth shattering. His life will obviously never be the same. He will live with the results for the rest of his life. Have some sympathy for Gods sake, there's little in some of these posts.

We dont know the cause of the accident, what speed he was travelling or anything. To easy to jump to conclusions.

Spot On

Most of us, Correction I speed on occasions, always have always will, I like to think I do it with a certain degree of caution and care, bet this guy felt the same. I can’t imagine (or least don’t want to) losing both legs in a car accident.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by G00ner
Damp patch, spillage, puncture or any manner of mechanical fault, to speculate without the facts is moronic at best.
^^ What g00ner said.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by brumdaisy
pity you already started.
I take it that not only are you an expert on car crashes that you know nothing of, but you are also an expert of the people of Birmingham. Mummy and Daddy must be very proud

Im no expert on car crashes, no doubt you are, but bearing in mind a car can kill at 40 I doubt it takes even the speed limit to cause that kind of horrific injury.

Even if he was speeding, nearly all of us do it some times. Maybe he lost control, maybe a squirrel dashed across the road. So what if he is a policeman, he's also human and allowed to make mistakes.

You just dont get it do you - it can happen to anyone, including YOU.
Well said - and I think you speak for most of us.
Perhaps it was carelessness - Perhaps it was sheer bad luck - Who knows we dont - (Its always dangerous to assume)
If Ayton Senna can die in a car then it can happen to anyone.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by RB5SCOTT
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Have you hit a tree at 30???.......I have, being driven by a mate that was being a total pratt left the road at 40 mph probably doing around 30mph when a tree slamed into my door... guess what? i climbed out of his side a walked home. I would estimate that this policeman may have been going a fair bit quicker.
this made me cringe , as has been said , were you there ?? i thought not . so don't go estimating the guys' speed without any kind of proof !
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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think this has gotten out of hand a bit. Im sure RB5Scott didnt mean to be malicious about this although it did come across that way, however if the thread was "car thief wraps car around tree and loses both legs", the comments by people on this thread would be totally different I have read comments before on car theft threads where people have said that they hope they crash and burn to death and I have read about losing legs as well.
Seems to me like a lot of people have double standards.

Hope the person injured makes a good recovery from the other injuries and has the support of family and friends to help him through
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by RB5SCOTT
Questions to be asked????

Was it his car or a police car?
Was he so called "testing it to see what it could do"

Either way it looks as though speed and carelessness was probably the cause! Not a good example to set
What a tosser!
It's obvious you don't have the full facts, as others have said, it's avery poor generalisation and a cheap dig IMO.

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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamescsti
What a tosser!
It's obvious you don't have the full facts, as others have said, it's avery poor generalisation and a cheap dig IMO.
Has anyone noticed the press and police in inccidents like this often issue intial statements passing judgement before all the facts are known. It seems in this case however, they do not do this. I wonder why.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RB5SCOTT
for one you can drive carelessly at 20mph moron

and if you refering to my accident, you can still drive at 100mph down a straight part of the road until you come to a badly judged corner, by the time brakes have been pressed, you skidded past your turn in point and then gone off the road, along a bit of dirt and then finally hit something, quite a bit of speed can be scrubbed off. you don't need to be driving at 30mph to hit something at 30mph unless your asleep
It does not matter who was driving the car, or what make it was ,or whether the road was clear or not, or whether there was ice or snow or water on the road, you have no right to make a wild assumption as to the cause of the crash.

You had no evidence about what actually happened to cause the crash and therefore whatever you said was pure conjecture and cannot be taken as evidence.

This was a bad accident and the poor bloke has lost his legs. As a young man that is a terrible thing to happen although it would be awful at any age of course. A bit of sympathy might be more appropriate!

Until you actually know why the accident occurred, you would do well to avoid shooting your mouth off and also making such an offensive post anyway.

There were enough people ready to blame the Hamster for the dreadful crash he had during his speed record attempt. Just like you they assumed he had got it all wrong when we now know that is was a front tyre failure which was the reason.

You would be wise to learn the lesson from that.

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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaybird-UK
poor guy

3 hours to cut out must have been unbearable
Absolutely right, poor fella, I dont care if he was a Cop a Judge or a whatever, poor *******s got no legs now, you fekin retards posting some of the rubbish on this thread want a good smack!
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RB5SCOTT
Questions to be asked????

Was it his car or a police car?
Was he so called "testing it to see what it could do"

Either way it looks as though speed and carelessness was probably the cause! Not a good example to set
When will you predjudice nobbers ever learn!!!

No-one buys a scooby to drive slow, fact!

Everyone on this site has driven to fast and no doubt lost it at times. If it wasn't a copper retards like you would be feeling sorry for him!
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by John57
I think some of the posts on this thread show this forum is indeed the pits !

I agree with the comments above and as someone whose job is to manage and investigate serious and fatal accidents can equally say I have seen a car into a tree at under 30 where the young lad in the passenger seat is no longer with us! The car was totally destroyed.

RB5SCOTT - Without full knowledge of the incident your comments are ignorant to say the least and show a lack of care for any human being that is sadly predictable in modern society.....

I also find it sad that there are comments such as this on a site for Scooby enthusiasts - what does it say about Scooby owners .... you just don't seem to get this on other forums to the degree it is evident here . I think unfortunately that says alot!

Spot on ...........
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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Don't know if this may clarify a little bit of what happended......

My mum knows this guy involved and he swerved to miss an animal on the road. He's in a terrible state so please think about what he is going through.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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Off but sort of on topic - i had a 30mph incident recently which wrote off my supra, hit a coach on the wrong side of the road (him not me) on a blind corner so you can do a lot of damage at low speeds. Hit it wrong and its quite easy to not walk away.

Resever judgement on the cause until the full story is known. All the biddies on the bus got off saying it "must have been my fault going too fast in a car like that" luckily i had several witnesses behind me to say otherwise!

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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by brumdaisy
Even if it was a 21year old chav who'd stolen it, it would be a horrific price to pay....
No, that'd be called justice.

Trouble being then is the state would get to pick up the bill for long term care, so death would be preferable in this case.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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defo harse poor bloke, I think this thread should be deleted ASAP before anymore harse things are said imo
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Originally Posted by Cool Chick
Don't know if this may clarify a little bit of what happended......

My mum knows this guy involved and he swerved to miss an animal on the road. He's in a terrible state so please think about what he is going through.
not saying that isnt true but that is the oldest one in the book to be honest. But likewise I wish him all the best for the future.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bald Speed Racing
defo harse poor bloke, I think this thread should be deleted ASAP before anymore harse things are said imo
Nonsense. Its called freedom of speech. Just because someone posts something that is offensive or simply disagreed with it doesnt mean we should quickly bury it. We're all entitled to an opinion and to 'enjoy' the experience of a public flaming when we get it wrong

Unless of course you are a friend of the scooby "ooh quick, panic delete that thread someone might sue" webmaster?
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... maybe a squirrel dashed across the road.
I would swerve to avoid a horse, maybe a dog, but definitely not a squirrel or a duckling. The potential consequences are just too severe.

Disclaimer: I know that we don't know what the animal was, but drivers who swerve to avoid small animals can learn from this thread.
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by brumdaisy
Unless of course you are a friend of the scooby "ooh quick, panic delete that thread someone might sue" webmaster?
and now...... "I've my corporate image to protect"
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
and now...... "I've my corporate image to protect"
Pity webmaster isnt as hot on people going off topic as he is on protecting his legal position.

back on topic: Its a dreadful accident that Im struggling to think anyone who could deserve the consequence of (well excpet paedos perhaps...)
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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Poor bloke, crashes and loses both legs......... now faces a life changing battle for normality...

Regardless of the circumstances surrounding this accident I wish him a speedy recovery.........
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Jesus, an argument could be made of anything in this place.

Reminds me of the outside area at school
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