S2000 <-- what are they like?
27 October 2006, 12:57 AM
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my close friend has had 5 of these!!! and owns the GT 03 in nurburgring blue at the mo. Great cars, the earlier a bit twitchy but great car, Take the air box off and listen to that sound in V tEC Absolutly gorgeous. (you loose a bit of performace and also on idle once hot, a bit of shoaking due to the hot air!! lol)
Id love to own one of these i have driven it many many times and still love it.
Once V tec is engaged in 2nd gear thats not many cars that can pull on it.. we have a 340bhp sti8 and in 2nd they were neck and neck.
the flat spot is ofcourse before Vtec. but you can buy a super charger
i love the S.. very Driftable too
Id love to own one of these i have driven it many many times and still love it.
Once V tec is engaged in 2nd gear thats not many cars that can pull on it.. we have a 340bhp sti8 and in 2nd they were neck and neck.
the flat spot is ofcourse before Vtec. but you can buy a super charger
i love the S.. very Driftable too
27 October 2006, 07:28 AM
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That's the reason I bought one Dream. I thought it would be an outstanding summer car but impractical and a nightmare during the winter. For over a year it was my only car and it was perfectly practical and I came to realise that it was just as much fun in the winter. Roof down on crisp icy mornings with a beenie and the heating turned up full is great It's even better when there is light snow and you have the roof down 
It's even better when there is light snow and you have the roof down
27 October 2006, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
You do realise black is a nightmare colour to keep clean and swirl free - that'll end up being your job in exchange for having your tea cooked for you of an evening 
28 October 2006, 12:28 PM
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Just bought an S2 about a month ago. It is, as SB suggested, an entirely different type of package to the WRX and indeed the other 4wd turbo cars I've owned. If you want to go as quickly as possible, you're not bothered about having to think or set-up the car through a corner then always, always go for the scoobie. Yet, if you like your driving to be challenging and therefore rewarding there is no competition. The S2 is a classic rear wheel drive sports car, it handles like one and provides smiles like one.
In my view, driving a WRX is like a driving a Focus (although the plastics are a bit better in the Ford!) it's very simple and you don't have to put much craft into it - speed and predcitability makes them popular. They are very different ownership prospects and both great cars in their own right - I got bored of the easy way to travel quickly and like the challenge. However, I must admit on a wet, muddy day I'd rather be in my wife's 4wd Octavia.
As for the 1 second difference between 0-100 times etc - I think if that really sways your purchase decision then somehow you're missing out on the joy of driving. If it's all about 0-60s and 0-100s then go buy a bike and have done with every S2 and WRX on the road.
In my view, driving a WRX is like a driving a Focus (although the plastics are a bit better in the Ford!) it's very simple and you don't have to put much craft into it - speed and predcitability makes them popular. They are very different ownership prospects and both great cars in their own right - I got bored of the easy way to travel quickly and like the challenge. However, I must admit on a wet, muddy day I'd rather be in my wife's 4wd Octavia.
As for the 1 second difference between 0-100 times etc - I think if that really sways your purchase decision then somehow you're missing out on the joy of driving. If it's all about 0-60s and 0-100s then go buy a bike and have done with every S2 and WRX on the road.
28 October 2006, 01:14 PM
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As Saxoboy well tell you , the S2000 is well capable of keeping up with modded Scoobs and whipping the **** of the cooking models (although mine's a modded lardy Newage !).
, the S2000 is well capable of keeping up with modded Scoobs and whipping the **** of the cooking models (although mine's a modded lardy Newage !).
28 October 2006, 01:24 PM
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Like you I have had attention from a well driven S2000,
Like you I live in Scotland,
Like you it rains on the roads near me 50% of the time,
Like you I was impressed by the S2000,
I also have a light 2 seat conv. rwd. that is fast in the right conditions.
It is slow now as it does not go out from Sept. till Easter.
The scoob is great like a "Martini"
Anytime, anywhere, (oops showing my age there).
Like you I live in Scotland,
Like you it rains on the roads near me 50% of the time,
Like you I was impressed by the S2000,
I also have a light 2 seat conv. rwd. that is fast in the right conditions.
It is slow now as it does not go out from Sept. till Easter.
The scoob is great like a "Martini"
Anytime, anywhere, (oops showing my age there).
28 October 2006, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
Shaken, but not stirred ?! : 
Wheelshopo 0 - take a look at the Scotland bashing on the SUV thread !
Wheelshopo 0 - take a look at the Scotland bashing on the SUV thread !
As you know I also have an Audi but would never relate to AL he's just doing it for effect
PS bet I/we work more hours per week than that soft Southern sh1te.
28 October 2006, 02:36 PM
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If you want to go as quickly as possible, you're not bothered about having to think or set-up the car through a corner then always, always go for the scoobie. Yet, if you like your driving to be challenging and therefore rewarding there is no competition. The S2 is a classic rear wheel drive sports car, it handles like one and provides smiles like one.
In my view, driving a WRX is like a driving a Focus (although the plastics are a bit better in the Ford!) it's very simple and you don't have to put much craft into it - speed and predcitability makes them popular. They are very different ownership prospects and both great cars in their own right - I got bored of the easy way to travel quickly and like the challenge.
In my view, driving a WRX is like a driving a Focus (although the plastics are a bit better in the Ford!) it's very simple and you don't have to put much craft into it - speed and predcitability makes them popular. They are very different ownership prospects and both great cars in their own right - I got bored of the easy way to travel quickly and like the challenge.
Wheelshop have our paths crossed? Played with quite a few scoobys since I got the S2000. I've beaten more than I've lost to in a straight line but a substantial ratio but on a c-class backroad between Drem and Haddinton I got nailed. When it comes to most quiet rural roads in Scotland you just can't touch a scooby for outright pace. Nevertheless, I'm willing to bet I was having more fun that day than the other guy
28 October 2006, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by WHEELSHOP0_0
I have seen it its only Audilover, He has never said anything interesting or relevant to any thread I have ever read.
As you know I also have an Audi but would never relate to AL he's just doing it for effect
PS bet I/we work more hours per week than that soft Southern sh1te.
As you know I also have an Audi but would never relate to AL he's just doing it for effect
PS bet I/we work more hours per week than that soft Southern sh1te.
True. Worked 8 till 8 yesterday.
28 October 2006, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
Very well put
Wheelshop have our paths crossed? Played with quite a few scoobys since I got the S2000. I've beaten more than I've lost to in a straight line but a substantial ratio but on a c-class backroad between Drem and Haddinton I got nailed. When it comes to most quiet rural roads in Scotland you just can't touch a scooby for outright pace. Nevertheless, I'm willing to bet I was having more fun that day than the other guy
Wheelshop have our paths crossed? Played with quite a few scoobys since I got the S2000. I've beaten more than I've lost to in a straight line but a substantial ratio but on a c-class backroad between Drem and Haddinton I got nailed. When it comes to most quiet rural roads in Scotland you just can't touch a scooby for outright pace. Nevertheless, I'm willing to bet I was having more fun that day than the other guy
I also have a toy (well the wifes really) it only goes out in good weather tho.
28 October 2006, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by WHEELSHOP0_0
Hi there, I dont know if I have seen you, the S2000 was a yellow one with an S2000 plate (S200 0##) I think.I was very impressed It would have had most scoobs, mine was a 387BHP wagon at the time.
I also have a toy (well the wifes really) it only goes out in good weather tho.
I also have a toy (well the wifes really) it only goes out in good weather tho.
Nice !!
28 October 2006, 03:07 PM
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Have driven the S2K (a couple of years ago) extensively and while they are amazing machines when at full chat (sublime handling, awesome engine, gearbox), around the City the non-existent torque is extremely frustrating.
So if it was my everyday car in the City of London, I would be bored out of my mind.
Other than that, on B roads, A Roads, the S2K is amazingly satisfying.
So if it was my everyday car in the City of London, I would be bored out of my mind.
Other than that, on B roads, A Roads, the S2K is amazingly satisfying.
28 October 2006, 03:24 PM
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How did I miss this, Kenny has said it all for me
I now own an Evo 8 and maybe its just my tyres, but the S2000 is much more competent on tight bends, ie going round roundabouts etc. The EVO excels in terms of grip on the twisty country road stuff.
If you know me from here, you will know I change cars a lot, and dont keep stuff long. I had the S2000 for 18 months which is a record by far. I will have another one too. Amazing piece of engineering.
I think its all been said on tuning too - the thread Kenny linked to is good. I wouldnt delude yourself with superchargers or turbos until tou have it all totally read up and know all the issues!
ITB's are pretty pointless unless you have modded cams, and supporting breathing mods. They cost well over a grand too so you have to ask if its worth it. Nothing comes cheap either. I had a £1600 intake on mine and probably gave a good handful of bhp - most give nothing. I had mine Unichiped and that worked well.
When trying one, you have to drive it for a good while. Many try it, accuse it of lacking power / torque and dont buy one - which is great as they are normally straigh line power mongers. The S2000 is a true drivers car and you get out of it every time feeling like you have driven it. Best gear change you can get, razor sharp steering, no driver aids, monocoque chassis, monster brakes... need I go on....
The Jap racing scene loves them too. This video by driving god, Gan San, is very interesting. Note he says its quicker than the NSX on the ring!
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I now own an Evo 8 and maybe its just my tyres, but the S2000 is much more competent on tight bends, ie going round roundabouts etc. The EVO excels in terms of grip on the twisty country road stuff.
If you know me from here, you will know I change cars a lot, and dont keep stuff long. I had the S2000 for 18 months which is a record by far. I will have another one too. Amazing piece of engineering.
I think its all been said on tuning too - the thread Kenny linked to is good. I wouldnt delude yourself with superchargers or turbos until tou have it all totally read up and know all the issues!
ITB's are pretty pointless unless you have modded cams, and supporting breathing mods. They cost well over a grand too so you have to ask if its worth it. Nothing comes cheap either. I had a £1600 intake on mine
and probably gave a good handful of bhp - most give nothing. I had mine Unichiped and that worked well.When trying one, you have to drive it for a good while. Many try it, accuse it of lacking power / torque and dont buy one - which is great as they are normally straigh line power mongers. The S2000 is a true drivers car and you get out of it every time feeling like you have driven it. Best gear change you can get, razor sharp steering, no driver aids, monocoque chassis, monster brakes... need I go on....
The Jap racing scene loves them too. This video by driving god, Gan San, is very interesting. Note he says its quicker than the NSX on the ring!
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28 October 2006, 03:27 PM
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28 October 2006, 03:27 PM
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I test drove a brand new 2004 one and that was very predictable round the bends when pushed hard.....the earlier ones were supposed to be twitchy....(havent driven an earlier one)
28 October 2006, 03:35 PM
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Early = fun
Seriously, if you are no driver then best just to drive like a ***** inthe wet. The back can swing out under VTEC, and its far too fast for most to catch. I loved it
I notice you commented the same on the ITR regarding power etc. These cars arent meant for poncing around town in, from traffic jam to traffic jam. Onthe move the S2000 would keep up with some quite big stuff.
Non existant torque? Drop it down a gear - what its for
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Seriously, if you are no driver then best just to drive like a ***** inthe wet. The back can swing out under VTEC, and its far too fast for most to catch. I loved it
I notice you commented the same on the ITR regarding power etc. These cars arent meant for poncing around town in, from traffic jam to traffic jam. Onthe move the S2000 would keep up with some quite big stuff.
Non existant torque? Drop it down a gear - what its for
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28 October 2006, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark Blue Mark
Early = fun
Non existant torque? Drop it down a gear - what its for
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Non existant torque? Drop it down a gear - what its for
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My brother has an ITR and I used to have a Prelude 2.2Vti for 2.5 yrs so am very well versed on how to manage a VTEC thankyou very much.
I've gone to the dark side.....a Supra TT -
28 October 2006, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark Blue Mark
Here is a Vid of a Supra Round the same TRACK
YouTube - GT4 Supra RZ 834HP @ Nurburgring
PMSL
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28 October 2006, 04:10 PM
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I really can't understand the 'around town' comments. I honestly never find the car lacking for hacking around. The car I had before my S2000 was a 3.0 V6 and it would pull hard from 1500rpm in top gear. It made town driving easy but I certainly didn't jump into the S2000 and feel hard done by
My scooby and the TT I drove were arguably worse waiting for the screws (although auto was great for lazy driving in TT).
It comes down to what you want in a car as I've been saying all along but I do think its unfair to say the S2000 is bad around town - it's just not as good as a big cc car.
My scooby and the TT I drove were arguably worse waiting for the screws (although auto was great for lazy driving in TT).
It comes down to what you want in a car as I've been saying all along but I do think its unfair to say the S2000 is bad around town - it's just not as good as a big cc car.
28 October 2006, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
It comes down to what you want in a car as I've been saying all along but I do think its unfair to say the S2000 is bad around town - it's just not as good as a big cc car.
I dont compare it to my Supra TT, that is a completely different beast
Each to their own.
S2K for me was boring around London just like my brothers ITR, on an open road round Kent, A roads and B roads - I love these cars.
28 October 2006, 08:01 PM
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Having just had my first puncture in 17 years of driving and not being able to get the punctureed wheel in the boot and having to convince the GF that she needs to have it on her lap I would say they are rubbish!!!
(Nearly the best car I've owned though really )
(Nearly the best car I've owned though really
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28 October 2006, 08:49 PM
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So the S2 doesn't have enough torque 'around town'? That'll be the place where there are a load of 30 limits, children, cyclists etc all in one of the most densely-populated, jam-ridden cities in the world......
28 October 2006, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RichB
Having just had my first puncture in 17 years of driving and not being able to get the punctureed wheel in the boot and having to convince the GF that she needs to have it on her lap I would say they are rubbish!!!
(Nearly the best car I've owned though really )
(Nearly the best car I've owned though really
)If you can't do that, then put the wheel in the front seat and put the g/f in the boot
28 October 2006, 11:23 PM
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Seriously?
I thought I'd rung an expert who claimed this was not possible!!!
Still - You get what you pay for eh Mark!!!
Dracoro - I'm a bloke - read the manual - you are joking right?
Thanks for the info though!!!
Mark said stick Meg in the boot but she didn't fit.
Can you believe, I drove over a 'key' that went straight in the tyre.
Repairable? Not advisable? (I don't think so but the tyre isn't that old annoyingly..)
SB - The 360 was *awesome* loved EVERY second but thankfully didn't have to service it or fix anything (other than a new battery).
Did 3000 miles over Germany/France/Switzerland/Austria in the S2k - Roof down most of the time and loved it. Would have loved to do it in the Fezza but seriously tough call as to which would have been better.
I thought I'd rung an expert who claimed this was not possible!!!
Still - You get what you pay for eh Mark!!!
Dracoro - I'm a bloke - read the manual - you are joking right?
Thanks for the info though!!!
Mark said stick Meg in the boot but she didn't fit.
Can you believe, I drove over a 'key' that went straight in the tyre.
Repairable? Not advisable? (I don't think so but the tyre isn't that old annoyingly..)
SB - The 360 was *awesome* loved EVERY second but thankfully didn't have to service it or fix anything (other than a new battery).
Did 3000 miles over Germany/France/Switzerland/Austria in the S2k - Roof down most of the time and loved it. Would have loved to do it in the Fezza but seriously tough call as to which would have been better.
29 October 2006, 11:25 AM
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Hmmm, tried that on mine once but no luck. Mustn't have tried very hard! Having said that, I was surprised that Honda would have designed it that way....
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