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Old 28 September 2006, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by StudentScooby
Would my RB5 running 276/281 be an equal match to a standard type r!?
No; itd be a nice car though. The point of this bet/discussion was 'faster' rather than 'better', but the 2DD has the advantage of DCCD, manic ratios and better suspension as well...

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Old 29 September 2006, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DannyBoy007
Type R is by far the better car.

But the top speed might be interesting. Unless the Type R has the longer 5th fitted.

I'd say the Type R would be squicker to 70-100ish but then I'm sure the uk car would make some of the ground up with the longer gearing. In fact I know this is true, having played with many a modded type R. but then again mine isn't standard
Agreed! I had to do a bit of last minute shopping last night which mean't going to three supermarkets in the area but it was quicker via the motorway. Didn't speed too much but thought about the longer fifth be far easier to live with. Not too sure how many people would want or even use their Subaru as an everyday car though. Suspension is harsh and the fuel economy can't be great either. I know mine isn't.

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Old 29 September 2006, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
They are related questions to some extent.

As I commented on a thread the other day:

My std UK Scooby was a lot nicer to live with everyday than my mates Evo 6, mainly because of the much better ride over potholed UK roads.

Now, obviously his was the faster car!

HOWEVER

In a back to back comparison over a favourite B road (and having swapped cars) we both agreed that my car was quicker in that environment. It's suitability for our roads paid dividends (sp?). The Evo bucked and crashed over the road and one had to slow down for fear of being bounced off the tarmac. Scooby just glided over the rough stuff.

To the poster who queried Simon's assertion that the Sti has 280 based on the brouchure. My Uk brouchure says the turbo has a 0-60 time of 6.8 seconds.

Yeah right, with flat tyres maybe!!

The 90s saw a gentlemans agreement between the manufacturers and the japanses government that meant that no cars would be produced with over 280bhp.

Subaru adhered to that agreement...........................on paper!

Ns04
I hope we can all agree that most of the fast jap car marques didn't adhere to the gentlemans agreement. Evo V Vi / Skyline GTR anyone. Thats an interesting point about the subaru and the evo and indeed we could go round and round discussing the driver, road conditions et all however if we were talking about factory production models (any Type R v RB5 v Evo) all of similar age on the same stretch of road or track then I'd imagine it would be Evo then R then RB5.
Old 29 September 2006, 10:09 AM
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I know the original question was quicker, but somebody else mentioned better and better depends on what you want from a car. Re the comment on every day use my RB5 is not actually used every day, but I have driven cars with very very stiff suspension in the past and when I test drove an STI a few years back I felt the suspension was just too stiff to live with on Scottish Roads. When I sold my last classic I decided after test driving a few Scoobs that the RB5 had the right balance handling wise and ride quality for our roads.That is just my opinion though I believe Subaru chose a softer ( far from soft though) set up on UK cars for a reason.

Anyway the STI5 is an awesome car and as far as the original question is concerned there is no argument the STI5 is the quicker car. I would love one if the roads were a bit better up here.

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Old 29 September 2006, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by GC8
Thanks for that.

Simon
You're welcome!

Did I actually say that though???



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Old 29 September 2006, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Stev
Andy

I reckon the quickshift does not make that much difference, but the handling is slightly better than an unmodded classic ( in my experience anyway). My RB5 is a bit quicker than than my previous scoob through the bends. Out of the box an STI V5 type R would see off an RB5 easily, but I still think there is something special about the RB5 (in my unbiased opinion).
Cheers mate. Seems funny talking to you on Scoobynet when we only live
half a mile apart ! (I'm back in my flat).

Anyway, see, I was trying to defend your motor !! (Doesn't seem to be any dispute that its a good car anyway).

Andy
Old 29 September 2006, 02:55 PM
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Hi Andy

Off topic I know,but I have been trying to call you on your mobile today (have sent a text). I was thinking of going to the Gunners game tonight at Murrayfield ( playing Glasgow). :Let me know if you want to go.
Old 29 September 2006, 03:32 PM
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Wouldn't be much between an RB5 (WR) & a Type R with the average driver on an 'average' UK road ...DCCD v's ABS
Old 29 September 2006, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Stev
Hi Andy

Off topic I know,but I have been trying to call you on your mobile today (have sent a text). I was thinking of going to the Gunners game tonight at Murrayfield ( playing Glasgow). :Let me know if you want to go.
Sorry Stev, I read the post too late and don't have my mobile with me !#
Would prob have gone too !

Andy

Anyway, back to Scoobs...............
Old 29 September 2006, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DazW
Wouldn't be much between an RB5 (WR) & a Type R with the average driver on an 'average' UK road ...DCCD v's ABS
It's not so much a DCCD/ABS issue but the sheer lunacy required to drive at a speed necessary to separate the two

Saying that.....

Probably for the first month or two after getting my type-r I would UNDOUBTEDLY have been quicker in my old UK turbo. It was more forgiving, less aggressive and didn't punish mistakes in a fatal manner!

However, after really learning how to drive the R properly and working the DCCD out, should I be insane enough to drive it at 100%, it would EASILY outpace a regular turbo, even if it had the same power as me. It is sharper, grippier and better balanced, even if you have to be prepared to take control when you do something foolish!

Now it has the ASTs, MRT topmounts, ARBs and various bits and pieces, it's in another league again.

Having owned two UK cars previously though, they are hugely effective at covering ground efficiently with minimum fuss. I certainly don't look at them now and consider them inferior in any way..... just different.....

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Old 29 September 2006, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Stev
Hi Andy

Off topic I know,but I have been trying to call you on your mobile today (have sent a text). I was thinking of going to the Gunners game tonight at Murrayfield ( playing Glasgow). :Let me know if you want to go.
Gunners as in Arsenal? They're not playing tonight are they?

TX.
Old 29 September 2006, 07:40 PM
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That would be Edinburgh Gunners ( Rugby team).
Old 30 September 2006, 11:18 AM
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Ah, clearly I'm not in to Rugby ... Football man!

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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Ah, clearly I'm not in to Rugby ... Football man!

TX.
I like both. Plus fast cars !!
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