FAO those with UPVC doors or Yale type locks
19 August 2006, 10:57 PM
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I think the cure is to fill the lock with grease or spray waxoyl (such as PTFE spray grease), this may help stop the levers/pins from being "jiggled" when it is hit by the hammer.
I've got a dorrs with non-matching locks and various keys to try this on
Also the "lowe & fletcher" circular key lock barrels as used on krook-locks and similar steering locks are vunreable to this if the theif has a generic master key (widely available).
I've got a dorrs with non-matching locks and various keys to try this on
Also the "lowe & fletcher" circular key lock barrels as used on krook-locks and similar steering locks are vunreable to this if the theif has a generic master key (widely available).
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19 August 2006, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by brumdaisy
i've given up on my charity work since you started asking for seconds 
19 August 2006, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark Man
I think the cure is to fill the lock with grease (such as PTFE spray grease), this may help stop the levers/pins from being "jiggled" when it is hit by the hammer.
I've got a dorrs with non-matching locks and various keys to try this on
Also the "lowe & fletcher" circular key lock barrels as used on krook-locks and similar steering locks are vunreable to this if the theif has a generic master key (widely available).
I've got a dorrs with non-matching locks and various keys to try this on
Also the "lowe & fletcher" circular key lock barrels as used on krook-locks and similar steering locks are vunreable to this if the theif has a generic master key (widely available).
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19 August 2006, 11:06 PM
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As an after thought spray waxoyl is probably better as it's thicker
I always thought deigsn of these locks were a bit "simplistic" glad I have a old fashioned 5 lever chubb mortice
I always thought deigsn of these locks were a bit "simplistic" glad I have a old fashioned 5 lever chubb mortice
19 August 2006, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by brumdaisy
ta scooter, but I live in Brum, most scum here are at least5 years behind the the of the UK's scum 
Boxst, how do you put a bolt on a UPVC panel?
Im pretty handy at DIY stuff so having fitted a catflap to a UPVC panel I know theres nowt for screws to grip beyond the thin as **** panel..... to the point that last time I locked myself out the house I just kicked thru the catflap and reached up to take the key out the back door - now I know how easy that was I never leave the key in the back door!
Boxst, how do you put a bolt on a UPVC panel?
Im pretty handy at DIY stuff so having fitted a catflap to a UPVC panel I know theres nowt for screws to grip beyond the thin as **** panel..... to the point that last time I locked myself out the house I just kicked thru the catflap and reached up to take the key out the back door - now I know how easy that was I never leave the key in the back door!
You can get something called Sash jammers basicly fit 2 to your door and even if they pick the lock they wong get past these (only work from the inside though use them while your in bed) other then that I would fit a UPVC composite door with a Rim and mortice lock on it but there quite £££.
19 August 2006, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by brumdaisy
Anyone want to trade three cats for a flesh ripping doberman?
Anyhoo. Can recomend a Dobermann. Lovely dogs, docile (after exercise
) obedient and protective. Had two myself Although the one was scared of frogs and was more likely to lick you to death - he still managed to corner a burgler who froze in fear at the sight of him - if only he knew he was as soppy fusspot
Oh, and fit some dead bolts
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19 August 2006, 11:48 PM
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oh I dont bother - its long and straight so pair of kitchen scissors does the job nicely... fringe has caused a few horror stories though - never cut your own fringe when its wet 
19 August 2006, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark Man
It wasn't just me then LOL
20 August 2006, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by brumdaisy
i still dont get it? 
get it now ?
20 August 2006, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by brumdaisy
dead bolts on a UPVC door?
Damn it Im going to have to get a locksmith and I hate paying for things I cant eat, drink or wear
Damn it Im going to have to get a locksmith and I hate paying for things I cant eat, drink or wear
http://www.masterlock.com/cgi-bin/pr...2&template=app
20 August 2006, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Shark Man
I think the cure is to fill the lock with grease or spray waxoyl (such as PTFE spray grease), this may help stop the levers/pins from being "jiggled" when it is hit by the hammer.
Lowe & fletcher" circular key lock barrels as used on krook-locks and similar steering locks are vunreable to this if the theif has a generic master key (widely available).
Lowe & fletcher" circular key lock barrels as used on krook-locks and similar steering locks are vunreable to this if the theif has a generic master key (widely available).
I wasn't aware that the circular key type locks were vulnerable.
Thats one avenue not to bother exploring then.
These locks stop another form of attack, and I suspect trying to ,make a special key would be more difficult than the conventional type keys.
http://www.multipointlocks.co.uk/cylinders-c-30.html
http://www.ciaalarms.co.uk/break_secure_cylinders.htm
They take no more than 2 minutes to fit, using a screwdriver.
Cheers
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20 August 2006, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MTR
I would excpect engine oil to work as well.
I wasn't aware that the circular key type locks were vulnerable.
Thats one avenue not to bother exploring then.
Cheers
MTR
I wasn't aware that the circular key type locks were vulnerable.
Thats one avenue not to bother exploring then.
Cheers
MTR
It's not the same as the bump method due to the design of the lock, so it is slightly more secure, but it's not that much better.
I had a CAT3 wheel clamp using the same brand and type of lock, I ask him to try his key on that, it worked. Suffice to say, I bought a different wheel clamp.
Certain brand steering locks also use the same type of lock - and explained why cars with these fitted have been stolen and then found with a steering lock still fitted...but it not the original - it's somebody elses steering lock!
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