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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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Many cycle lanes are either just a white line which car drives do not pay attention to. Even the ones which are seperate from the main road are usually combined with a footpath and that's litered with broken glass and pedestrians - both of which are hazzards.

Serious cyclists are moving fast enough (in a town/city environment) as not to cause a problem for cars - when I used to cycle (at race fitness) I would generall be travelling between 20 and 25 mph.

Car's are just as bad for being inconsiderate. The number of times that I've almost had accidents, whether on bike or in car is irelevent here, is too many bar far. I've had a friend killed racing by a beauty queen on her way home (after drinking at a pagent), she got let off with a warning WTF

Yes, cyclists should be insured, tax is another matter altogether - for what purpose exactly and how much - it'll cost more to impliment that it'd generate.

Unless in a group of 10 or more, riding two abreast is stupid - full stop.

Horses..... now that's another topic I could go on about. Why woul;d anybody want to ride half a ton of unpredictable, walking dog food on the road (let alone two abreast) is beyond me.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
Its also law that you can shoot a Welsh person with a bow and arrow inside Chester city walls and after midnight........
Technically, any time is after midnight.... Shall we have a group meeting of welsh people in Chester?

If you actually did this though do you think you'd get locked up for it? What would they charge you on?
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 11:51 AM
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I would love to 'close line' all cyslists!

My favourite trick (when their riding side by side), overtake em, get a sensible distance away, then, let rip out the window with some anti persperant...........Watch the fekkers cough as they breathe it in!
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Technically, any time is after midnight.... Shall we have a group meeting of welsh people in Chester?

If you actually did this though do you think you'd get locked up for it? What would they charge you on?
I would imagine a murder charge would be top of the list.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RMA26
I would love to 'close line' all cyslists!
I always thought it was Clothes line?
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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From visiting scooby car shows theres no doubt in my mind that alot of people on this board could do alot worse than getting themselves on a bike once in a while.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by King RA
I would imagine a murder charge would be top of the list.
But you havent done anything wrong according to the law?
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
But you havent done anything wrong according to the law?
Don't new laws overrule old laws?
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
I always thought it was Clothes line?
DOH!
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/03.htm#45
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Technically, any time is after midnight.... Shall we have a group meeting of welsh people in Chester?

If you actually did this though do you think you'd get locked up for it? What would they charge you on?
..................... 'Littering'
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by WRXewl
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the highway code was a set of guidelines, not the law?
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MikT
Isn't this allowed in the Highway Code?

I'm not pro-cyclist but i think this is allowable by law.
I always thought riding shotgun was illegal actually
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
..................... 'Littering'
Well I wouldnt leave a dead welshman in the streets of chester, Id at least take him to the local skip when it opens
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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Riding side by side is allowed. THe highway code is a set of rules of which the majority if broken is then breaking the law
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the highway code was a set of guidelines, not the law?
Gadzook's I think he's got it!

The HC is a set of guidelines that have some legal standing but is only persuasive as to how the law should be interpreted.......
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tanuki
Since coming to the UK I've noticed it's very anti-bike. You got these narrow arsed roads and nowhere for cyclists to ride on them...unless you count those stupid painted cycle lanes that everyone ignores....I feel very unsafe here. Even Tokyo was safer to ride in.
I'm a use my car a lot, but I also like to ride...actually quite a few people in the UK need to get of their lard eating binge drinking bums and go do some excercise.
Also, as a mountain bike rider, if I am forced to go out on the roads (reluctantly, I'll add), I am taking my life in my hands with the lack of space, poor road planning, and the inconsiderate *******s who don't indicate when changing lanes, turning, especially at roundabouts. Actually as a driver non-indicator types annoy me to no end. How about LA style road rage shootings. I mean, how lazy can you be not to be able to indicate? Or is it just cool to be inconsiderate?

Anyway, the Nederlands, Germany, Sweden, jeez just about anywhere else in Europe is absolute paradise for riding. Here there is some kind of hate anti-cycling predjudice. Quite a number of my foreign friends have commented on it, after poor dental hygiene. Is it something to do with hating people who are fit? I kind of shows at althletics championships.....
Please feel free to sod off back to Japan at any time.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the highway code was a set of guidelines, not the law?
There is overlap - where the word "MUST" is shown in red then it relates to a law, this law is then referenced at the end of the section.

For example:
50: You MUST obey all traffic signs and traffic light signals.
Laws RTA 1988 sect 36, TSRGD reg 10(1)
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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Tanuki 'hating people who are fit' so you never see fat people riding bicycles
Yes we have fat people in th UK but i'm pretty sure you get fat people in all 1st world countries.
And as for cars not indicating every bicycle rider indicates do they bollocks
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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Another thing...

If I race my motor vehicle on a public road it is dangerous and I am quite rightly prosecuted.

Why is it that cycle clubs are allowed to hold organised races on public roads with the blessings of the authorities. They all have their heads down and pay absolutely no attention to other road users and cause huge inconvenience and danger. There was one the other w/e near g/f's village and they were all over the road.

Diccy (aka Victor Meldrew).
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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What's with all the moaning? They are just lycra clad lumps of wasted flesh wobbling around on a contraption.... vs. 1.5 tonnes of steel? Mow them down like dogs!
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
The reason why there is an anti cyclist feeling is because they act as though they are completely exempt from the laws about cycling on pavements and also with traffic lights and crossings etc. The first post on this thread is an example of the attitude of so many cyclists.

Les
It's not beacuse "they act as though they are completely exempt..." it's beacuse SOME of them do - an NSR thread containing sweeping generalisations - whatever next?
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
This is why I dont cycle to work anymore... I was cycling down a hill when someone parked up opened their car door into my path, last minute instincts were to avoid the car door and swung the bike round the parked cars door into the middle of the road. It was an instinctive manouvure and didnt once consider there could be a car right behind me or next to me.... Luckily there wasnt.... If there was I would have swerved right into the path of the car I stopped after than incident.... I was so shook up for ages. Scared me sh!tless just thinking afterwards what could have happened.
But no matter what you drive, car/motor bike/pushbike, you should give the parked vehicle a wide enough berth to avoid this, particularly when there is an occupant on the offside.

Yes, they should look first, but you are partially to blame for poor observational skills and/or decision making.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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This cyclist was indeed a ***. We dont have to use the cycle lanes if we dont want to (at least there is no law to say we do), but anyone that doesnt is a fool.
It's usually the ones in the gay dayglo spandex who think they take it seriously because they wear gay dayglo spandex and ride 'racers' that do these misdemeanours round here. Folk like me who just do about 1000 miles a year on a mountain bike always use cycle paths.
I worked out when I was a kid that if I cycle into a moving car, it is usual that I will break and hurt more than the car...
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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most expensive racers are built for the road and would be broken by riding on cycle paths which are meant more for mountain bikes. There is your simple answer.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Hang on a minute lads.............. there's nothing wrong with bike's IF they are ridden safely and in the right environment.....





And I can't fault these riders one little bit.............

Edited to say the blonde in the middles seat may get a little sticky though!
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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Not my simple answer King RA, we're not talking about off road trails. Certainly where I live, cycle paths are concrete and smoooooth... Roads have grids, manholes, potholes etc and in my experience are far less kind to bikes than a nice designated cycle path.. Even the kerbs are lowered where road crossings are required.
The only reasons in these parts that a gay dayglo spandex racer rider would use a road rather than a cycle path is the right of way they have at junctions (as opposed to the often essential 'dismount and cross' which comes at the end of some cycle paths)...
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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I wouldn't want to ride a racer on the cycle paths I use every day.
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