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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
By normal driver I assume you mean one not prepared to bounce the car off the limiter at the start

I can defo get into the 12's though, I think short shifting maybe the answer
its harder than you think though....what were your terminal speeds when you did 13.5? that will give youa better indication of if your going wrong somewhere..
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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Just as a comparison for Martin,

off the top of my head my 12.6 run had a terminal of 111.5mph with an ET of 1.7 seconds. One of my earlier runs was a bit of an odd one, 13.2 with a terminal of 119mph

Incidentally, I rip out the seats/spare wheel etc etc to give me as much assistance as possible and only have at the v most 1/4 tank of race fuel in.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Neilo
its all possible, but like you say...maybe not with you bhind the wheel

Bob'5s managed 3.7 to 60 and 11.7 in a 340bhp classic....so it can be done.
3.7s 0-60mph was really quite poor - knackered tyres and 1st outing with new ratios - 1/4s came up at 12.3s on that day.

Would like to get it timed again. Still enough to win the event though (GP Tuner RWYB)
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 320
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1170
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 277.90
0 - 60 (Secs) : 3.79
0 - 100 (Secs) : 10.03
60 - 100 (Secs) : 6.24
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 12.47
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 111.51
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 12.07
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 115.31
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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9.63

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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 315
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1235
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 259.16
0 - 60 (Secs) : 4.01
0 - 100 (Secs) : 10.55
60 - 100 (Secs) : 6.55
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 12.69
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 109.65
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 12.29
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 113.33
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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According to the calc using 1/4mile times not power to weight (drag surface):

0-60mph should be about 3.1secs
0-100mph should be about 8.2secs

(340bhp)

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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Neilo
its all possible, but like you say...maybe not with you bhind the wheel

Bob'5s managed 3.7 to 60 and 11.7 in a 340bhp classic....so it can be done.
LOL Definately not with me behind behind the wheel - no way would I be that brutal with the car!! What it does mean though is that I should be able to achieve around 5 seconds to 60 (maybe even duck below 5) without being too cruel which is much more "real world" relevant I guess.

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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Neilo
its harder than you think though....what were your terminal speeds when you did 13.5? that will give youa better indication of if your going wrong somewhere..
102mph
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to 60 (maybe even duck below 5) ........... which is much more "real world" relevant I guess.
No real world relevance whatsoever bud
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
102mph
thats pretty low for a 350bhp car in truth....maybe your holding on to gears too long in that case...as you said, try short shifting...
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Originally Posted by Peanuts
No real world relevance whatsoever bud
Well they don't give 30-70 times , 60-100 more informative I guess (on a private road of course!!!)
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how much do UK Turbo classics weigh, (my99)
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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1235-1250
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
By normal driver I assume you mean one not prepared to bounce the car off the limiter at the start

I can defo get into the 12's though, I think short shifting maybe the answer
whats short shifting and how to you do it please
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Originally Posted by Neilo
thats pretty low for a 350bhp car in truth....maybe your holding on to gears too long in that case...as you said, try short shifting...
it was really hot though 30degrees, that has to make a difference
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0 - 60 (Secs) : 4.76
0 - 100 (Secs) : 12.94
60 - 100 (Secs) : 8.18
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 13.50
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 102.15
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 13.10
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 105.46
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a little....but you shoudl be crossing the line at about 110....or 112 to get comfortably in the 12s...(as in 12.5 say) so on a hot day id expect to see you at 106-108....

My last run i crossed the line doing 108 (335bhp car) in about 27degrees which isnt much different....witha buggered gearchange.
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my last run was 109mph at 13 dead on 30 degrees glorious sun at approx 350bhp in a uk classic.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by misty
Lancaster eh? I once went to lancaster..................................It was shut
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Was it a Sunday morning, people in Lancaster don't do those
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Originally Posted by Neilo
a little....but you shoudl be crossing the line at about 110....or 112 to get comfortably in the 12s...(as in 12.5 say) so on a hot day id expect to see you at 106-108....

My last run i crossed the line doing 108 (335bhp car) in about 27degrees which isnt much different....witha buggered gearchange.
Thats really useful thanks. I think I should short shift probably 1,2,4,6 to take advantage of all the low down power 360bhp at 5500rpm and 500Nm at 3500rpm - what do you reckon?
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Originally Posted by AndrewC
Was it a Sunday morning, people in Lancaster don't do those


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Neilo,

So pretty much what mine was then 12.6 @ 111.5 is about right then

Any thoughts on how one run could be so slow 13.2 but have terminal of 119?

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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
check your maths
Originally Posted by misty
Originally Posted by misty
Don't know if it's a SIAL but......Try this.

weight of car in kilogrammes
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maximum bhp of car * 0.9

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Apologies, I thought it meant to work it out like this :

1270 / 321 = 3.95 x 0.9 = 3.56

I was never very good at maths though

I reckon it means

321 x 0.9 = 289.

=> 1270 / 289 = 4.39.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Thats really useful thanks. I think I should short shift probably 1,2,4,6 to take advantage of all the low down power 360bhp at 5500rpm and 500Nm at 3500rpm - what do you reckon?
just change up by 6k....then it will drop nicely back in to the sweet spot.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MMT WRX
I reckon it means

321 x 0.9 = 289.

=> 1270 / 289 = 4.39.
Cool, so its actually slower than a standard one

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Originally Posted by Jay_bee
Neilo,

So pretty much what mine was then 12.6 @ 111.5 is abuot right then

Any thoughts on how one run could be so slow 13.2 but have terminal of 119?
a bloody awful start, slipping clutch, botched gearchanges....or all of the above
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 327.76
0 - 60 (Secs) : 3.37
0 - 100 (Secs) : 8.58
60 - 100 (Secs) : 5.21
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.97
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 118.09
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.57
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 122.17
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Originally Posted by Neilo
a bloody awful start, slipping clutch, botched gearchanges....or all of the above
Now that you mention it... I think it actually was all of the above

However, just couldnt workout how it got to 119
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Originally Posted by Jay_bee
Cool, so its actually slower than a standard one

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Still need a kneck brace though I reckon
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