Another dog problem
06 July 2006, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Neutral Cruiser
Couldn't have said it better my friend.
Unbelievable. They buy a dog that only ******* buy because it makes them look hard and are surprised when it does what comes naturally, AND humans have spent years trying to breed into it. The poor thing ends up unwanted and will probably go to an even worse idiotic owner. This is one of thge manyt reasons i am 1.) Vegan and 2.) Don't believe in 'owning' animals.
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Unbelievable. They buy a dog that only ******* buy because it makes them look hard and are surprised when it does what comes naturally, AND humans have spent years trying to breed into it. The poor thing ends up unwanted and will probably go to an even worse idiotic owner. This is one of thge manyt reasons i am 1.) Vegan and 2.) Don't believe in 'owning' animals.
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If we arent meant to eat animals then why are they made of meat
I have just had to let one of my dogs go, Ive kept the other one
in addition I have a cat, a hamster, a fish pond (with approx 10 fish) 4 fish tanks with various tropical fish, a royal python, and soon to get a rabbit, and maybe a chameleon
However none of this helps the thread, Apparition has said the course of action she is going to take, and is happy on her part for this thread to be closed
Not everyone gets a dog to make them look hard, just look at Squaresy
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06 July 2006, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Apparition
I do not like my daughter being called a Chav.That is unecessary rudeness and has nothing at all to do with the basic question/ problem.
However, my general point still stands. People commented that people like your daughter annoy them - those that don't bother training a dog properly then just give it away when the going gets tough because of that. You then got all uppety that everyone wasn't cheering your daughter on for giving the poor dog away.
In my opinion, it doesn't say much for you or your daughter if your first thought was to give the dog away, and now you've decided (rightly IMO) you may get some help from BarkBusters because someone on here suggested it. Why on earth hasn't she contacted local breeders or training groups before now to try and sort the problem out?
I also didn't realise you actually had to know people to post on their threads - I do apologise!
06 July 2006, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by *Sonic*
I have just had to let one of my dogs go, Ive kept the other one
in addition I have a cat, a hamster, a fish pond (with approx 10 fish) 4 fish tanks with various tropical fish, a royal python, and soon to get a rabbit, and maybe a chameleon
06 July 2006, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by *Sonic*
Because certain types of people keep certain types of dogs, this is one of the reasons you are vegan ?
If we arent meant to eat animals then why are they made of meat
If we arent meant to eat animals then why are they made of meat
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06 July 2006, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Neutral Cruiser
As for the chav that started this thread and chavs like him. He should've been neutered - not his dog. Now we have more b*stard offspring in the world not caring about anything or anyone except wearing the latest Beckham shirt, and eating at McDonalds every saturday lunchtime, before indulging in their favourite past-time of walking thier mis-treated pit-bull around the town on their way to buy some ****.
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06 July 2006, 11:55 AM
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As for the chav that started this thread and chavs like him. He should've been neutered - not his dog.
You couldn't be more off target if you tried.
I'm too busy to add any more to this thread. Either I can't convey properly in writing the true picture here or I'm writing in moon talk and someone out there in space is reading far more into it than there is.
BTW, I'm happy to call in on you Steve , in Northapmton on the 23rd July to introduce you to my daughter, her sons and myself , since we are visiting family there that day. Perhaps if you meet us , you'll see how wide of the mark this chav tag is. Also, maybe actual words can convey our position better than this third hand system.
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06 July 2006, 12:11 PM
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Blurting out insults without any grounds:
and hypocrisy:
I'm beginning to like this guy!
Originally Posted by Neutral Cruiser
Yeah top be honest i didn't know whether you were chavs or not
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I just get upset about animals and start hurling insulkts. I guess what i'm getting at is animals deserve the best
Originally Posted by Neutral Cruiser
I came home to see one of our cats (animal killers) on the road
06 July 2006, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Neutral Cruiser
I shouldn't be casting my pearls among swine, but i'm fairly bored so here goes......
My veganism is a reaction to how animals are kept and treated in general. We are made of meat yes and you sound like a typical 'meat-head'. Horses are made of meat. They eat only grass, and yet have that maginificent physique. I can only assume you're physique is made of the same mush that is your brain. Not many people will have the humility to agree with me but i would love to see a world where all animals are treated with love and kindness and basically left alone unless they need help. I fail to see how anyone would not want the same and bugger anyone who doesn't.
As for the chav that started this thread and chavs like him. He should've been neutered - not his dog. Now we have more b*stard offspring in the world not caring about anything or anyone except wearing the latest Beckham shirt, and eating at McDonalds every saturday lunchtime, before indulging in their favourite past-time of walking thier mis-treated pit-bull around the town on their way to buy some ****.
My veganism is a reaction to how animals are kept and treated in general. We are made of meat yes and you sound like a typical 'meat-head'. Horses are made of meat. They eat only grass, and yet have that maginificent physique. I can only assume you're physique is made of the same mush that is your brain. Not many people will have the humility to agree with me but i would love to see a world where all animals are treated with love and kindness and basically left alone unless they need help. I fail to see how anyone would not want the same and bugger anyone who doesn't.
As for the chav that started this thread and chavs like him. He should've been neutered - not his dog. Now we have more b*stard offspring in the world not caring about anything or anyone except wearing the latest Beckham shirt, and eating at McDonalds every saturday lunchtime, before indulging in their favourite past-time of walking thier mis-treated pit-bull around the town on their way to buy some ****.
PMSL quality class statement full of accurate facts I see
BTW I have no problem with Vegans or Vegetarians for that matter(and yes I do know the difference) and i do agree on how some animals are kept
Oh and yes I guess I am a typical meat head, nothing I like more than a nice fry up of bacon, sausage, egg, & black pudding, in fact im off to have that right now
I do like horses, I have a field full of them 4 doors away from my house, ive never ate one tho
06 July 2006, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Neutral Cruiser
Where is the hypocrasy in the second item, and why does the 3rd one of my half dead cat make you laugh? 
That is what makes me laugh!
(That and you calling Aberration a chav!
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06 July 2006, 12:30 PM
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It's not me you're hurting with your ignorance. Your karma is being damaged by your ill-regard for animals NOT mine. You laugh now but it won't last forever. It doesn't matter if you believe in the laws of cause and effect or not, THEY STILL GOVERN YOU.
- Go on then write something else sarcastic that mocks me. I realise to alot of people i sound like i'm mad when really it's the other way round. You're boasting to a vegan that you're going to have fry-up in a minute. That's clever. S'pect i haven't had that one before. Sad mate.
- Go on then write something else sarcastic that mocks me. I realise to alot of people i sound like i'm mad when really it's the other way round. You're boasting to a vegan that you're going to have fry-up in a minute. That's clever. S'pect i haven't had that one before. Sad mate.
06 July 2006, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sociopath
It's because you love animals sooooo much that you just had to 'own' animals, didn't you....
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06 July 2006, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Neutral Cruiser
Oh right. Sorry i see why you'd call me a hypocrite now and i don't blame you. No, the cats in question were my mums and i was 17 at the time. I'm 31 now. She's part of the reason i don't think we should keep them. They were her cats not mine. She didn't look after them very well. 3 of them died, and all of them had fleas. Selfish bitch. I've never owned an animal myself. I just feed wild ones and strays.
06 July 2006, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Neutral Cruiser
Horses are made of meat. They eat only grass, and yet have that maginificent physique.
06 July 2006, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MooseRacer
Diablo - I fear your comments surrounding physical dominance and physical reactions will no doubt be misinterpreted. There is a world of difference between hitting your dog and dominating it, even physical dominance does not need to involve striking your dog.
"Certainly when the boy goes too far with the bitch, she puts him in his place with what can only be described in human terms as a "bit of a kicking" Its highly effective, and he suffers no ill effects either physical or mental"
Fortunately mine, and no doubt yours, know their place in the human pack well enough that we don't have to resort to giving them a bit of a kicking. Trying to draw parallels in this way is a bit strange - we have more 'tools' in our 'armoury' that we can and should use.
Fortunately mine, and no doubt yours, know their place in the human pack well enough that we don't have to resort to giving them a bit of a kicking. Trying to draw parallels in this way is a bit strange - we have more 'tools' in our 'armoury' that we can and should use.
I'm not drawing any parallels - the action taken by animals towards others can be much more violent and aggressive than should ever be taken by a human. The example was to show that animals will resort to physical actions as part of their establishing dominance.
Of course, the point is making sure that any physical action by a human does not cause the dog any pain or other harm whatsoever.
06 July 2006, 01:59 PM
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There still seems to be people on this thread that think that the leader of the pack is there through something else other than fear.
I'll admit to not knowing as much about dog training as Apparitions daughter but I'm fairly certain that the Alpha Male is there cos he's good at fighting off the others - and when he shows signs of weakness he's history.
How you dog owners go about translating that is up to you - If I were training a dog it would respect me through fear - not because it likes me.
I'll admit to not knowing as much about dog training as Apparitions daughter but I'm fairly certain that the Alpha Male is there cos he's good at fighting off the others - and when he shows signs of weakness he's history
.How you dog owners go about translating that is up to you - If I were training a dog it would respect me through fear - not because it likes me
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06 July 2006, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Reality
There still seems to be people on this thread that think that the leader of the pack is there through something else other than fear.
I'll admit to not knowing as much about dog training as Apparitions daughter but I'm fairly certain that the Alpha Male is there cos he's good at fighting off the others - and when he shows signs of weakness he's history.
How you dog owners go about translating that is up to you - If I were training a dog it would respect me through fear - not because it likes me.
I'll admit to not knowing as much about dog training as Apparitions daughter but I'm fairly certain that the Alpha Male is there cos he's good at fighting off the others - and when he shows signs of weakness he's history
.How you dog owners go about translating that is up to you - If I were training a dog it would respect me through fear - not because it likes me
.if you were training a dog you would be typing your posts with a straw between your teeth because it would have bitten your hands off by now..
06 July 2006, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo
Jasey,
if you were training a dog you would be typing your posts with a straw between your teeth because it would have bitten your hands off by now..
if you were training a dog you would be typing your posts with a straw between your teeth because it would have bitten your hands off by now..
06 July 2006, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Neutral Cruiser
It doesn't matter if you believe in the laws of cause and effect or not, THEY STILL GOVERN YOU.
06 July 2006, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo
Jasey,
if you were training a dog you would be typing your posts with a straw between your teeth because it would have bitten your hands off by now..
if you were training a dog you would be typing your posts with a straw between your teeth because it would have bitten your hands off by now..
Watch how they train working dogs - all done with praise & reward and it's incredibly effective, the dog works for you because it sees you as the Alpha and wants to please you to get a reward back - same thing works on kids BTW!
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Originally Posted by Neutral Cruiser
I shouldn't be casting my pearls among swine, but i'm fairly bored so here goes......
My veganism is a reaction to how animals are kept and treated in general. We are made of meat yes and you sound like a typical 'meat-head'. Horses are made of meat. They eat only grass, and yet have that maginificent physique. I can only assume you're physique is made of the same mush that is your brain. Not many people will have the humility to agree with me but i would love to see a world where all animals are treated with love and kindness and basically left alone unless they need help. I fail to see how anyone would not want the same and bugger anyone who doesn't.
As for the chav that started this thread and chavs like him. He should've been neutered - not his dog. Now we have more b*stard offspring in the world not caring about anything or anyone except wearing the latest Beckham shirt, and eating at McDonalds every saturday lunchtime, before indulging in their favourite past-time of walking thier mis-treated pit-bull around the town on their way to buy some ****.
My veganism is a reaction to how animals are kept and treated in general. We are made of meat yes and you sound like a typical 'meat-head'. Horses are made of meat. They eat only grass, and yet have that maginificent physique. I can only assume you're physique is made of the same mush that is your brain. Not many people will have the humility to agree with me but i would love to see a world where all animals are treated with love and kindness and basically left alone unless they need help. I fail to see how anyone would not want the same and bugger anyone who doesn't.
As for the chav that started this thread and chavs like him. He should've been neutered - not his dog. Now we have more b*stard offspring in the world not caring about anything or anyone except wearing the latest Beckham shirt, and eating at McDonalds every saturday lunchtime, before indulging in their favourite past-time of walking thier mis-treated pit-bull around the town on their way to buy some ****.
hmmm, yet you seem to think it's ok for your avatar to contain a potentially racist slur? i think you need a re-think of your "morals".
06 July 2006, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by gooby
hmmm, yet you seem to think it's ok for your avatar to contain a potentially racist slur? i think you need a re-think of your "morals".
Like me getting upset about Brit and British.....
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