There's a place for tuning on the rolling road but the NewAge Subaru ECU isn't one of them

 

I've just read this after searching around for OpenECU....

I work offshore positioning oil rigs.

When I turn up to move a rig, I don't say 'oh sorry your using this software, I only use this'. I have to use whatever is on site. After all they are paying for my services to 'move the rig' which is the same whatever software you use....

The fact that almost every time I turn up on site I am presented with a software package I have never seen before, is neither here nor there. I have to grin and bear it and get on with the move....

Yes, totally off topic, but relevant all the same. The thread seems to digress, but the point being that a mapper should be 'experienced' and therefore if 'he is' good at mapping he should be able to use alternative software. Or are we saying that OpenECU does not have the same functionality as other software? I doubt it....

I have another analogy to the Snap On V Halfords...

I use Windows to surf the net and write emails......I use Linux to run my web sites and databases etc......there is nothing wrong with Linux

 

Yes indeed. I'm very intelligent and have large gonads as well

 

I was trying to reiterate the point that the workman shouldnt blame his tools.

A mapper should be able to adapt to any software assuming it has the same functionality.

I wasnt trying to be smart...

 

For mission critical. Major industries use UNIX (mainly) as apposed to Linux freeware or at least a supportted Linux version for Mission critical applications. People are being paid to support Linux they don't just install it and start working on it. Also people would use Windows Server edition software for mission critical applications. So windows has it's place even in a 'Mission Critical' environment. So your analogy was

 

Solaris is Open Source............

My analogy was that there is alternative software, and people do use it, regardless of costs. I was trying to portray Linux as the underdog, that is forseen as a 'risky' platform by people that dont know anything about it.....much the same as the OpenECU software.

 

I`ll have a bacon Mcmuffin please

 

God, I re-write my post because one person picks holes in it, then what I write then gets holes picked in it. Can't we keep on the subject matter?

 

I'm sure most mappers can and would adapt to different software systems. However, I woud personally prefer to have my car programmed by someone with a great deal of expertise in just one software package and who knows how to safely wring 100% out of the car using that software rather than use someone who's never been able to develop real expertise in any one package because he's trying to get his head around several different systems

 

So you install and go do you? You get a Sun expert you pay either way but yes point taken about tools and getting the right people I'm just playing with ya

 

Yeah I agree, you dont want just anyone mapping your car! You want an experienced professional. But as Zak says, the base ROMS for OpenECU are available, and it is the individual tuner that builds up his 'own' database of custom maps based on mods etc.

If 'dodgy tuning' just started up and bought the EcuTek solution, he would be in the same situation, i.e. that of having the base ROMS but no historical data from mapping....

....and I'm assuming all the EcuTek tuners do not share their maps (not sure if they physically can), so in essense they have to start from scratch too (from the base ROMS)?

 

I understand experience is required, but I am a plumber and theres no way on this earth I coul get away with charging £125+ per hour. Ive been told it takes approx 2hrs to map a car at a cost of around £250.

Its no wonder people are looking for a cheaper option really. I dont mind paying for services like these but feel the price is too high. There are plenty of people around who are very experienced in what they do but how many get to charge that sort of money?

 

never heard of megasquirt myself, but i have just done a quick google = intresting

 

I have been told it will take a day to map my car....

 

I think nowadays a day rate not short of £300 is the norm. When you factor a 10-20% cut, then VAT on top you are looking at £400-450. Bear in mind that the £650 is including licensing for the EcuTek.....

 

I have seen cars mapped in less than an hour…charge=£650. I have seen cars take all day to map charge =£650. I take it its job and knock…

 

how much does it cost to change a boiler in an average house and how long does that take ?

 

Had one done not long back...5hrs to fit charged £250...but got £35 back on scrap of old boiler...No licience fee was charges for the boiler software...

 

has the boiler now been locked so you have to go back to that plumber or another that uses the same type of monkey wrench ?

 

Only a few plumbers deal with this model of boiler..So I am stuck with the same plumber really.

 

Thinking of warentee with British Gas but will be tied to thereapron strings then...Is it worth it.

 

Of course its locked to only the plumbers that use Snap - On

 

As the sticker on my toolbox says - "I make my living with Snap-On tools, don't ask to borrow them".
I went to take a rusted nut off a manifold the other day with a spanner I had bought from Halfrauds the other day, and it started to round it, so I went to the bother of taking out my over-priced Snap-On spanner, and low and behold, it removed it no bother. In the long run, it has paid for itself several times over by owning the Snap-On spanners (work out the time I would have spent removing rounded nuts).
You pay the money, you make the choices. I know I'm happy with my choices though.