markwild

Swapped from TD04 to TD05 on my old 98 classic (UK)...... Also did:
550cc injectors, fuel pump, hybrid FMIC, fse regulator, PFC, AVC-R, K+N Induction, plus a few other bits. Had it mapped by AndyF - was OK, but heat soak was a real issue and spool was slower.

Then fitted ported, wrapped headers, wrapped all under-bonnet pipework (metal ones obviously), changed the standard inlet pipe for a prodrive grp N one (removing D/V entirely) and sectioned off the induction kit with a heat shield (also had a fan mounted in the inner wing to assist brake duct feed at low speed). Remapped by Andy again - made 320/300 on Scoobyclinic rollers......

FANTASTIC to drive - only downside - blew up third after 10 weeks (~7000 miles). Replaced the box with another 5 speed (don't ask...) - lasted 10 more weeks.....

Car is now in morpheous' hands (on here....)

Mark

New_scooby_04

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Hi Mate,

I'm seeing Bob on the 1st July, Can't wait!!! Am I right in thinking you're one of the P1 owners gettting yours done?

I'm of to APi the day before to get the bits and have them fitted

Currently my car is running the std map on the TD04 with a sports cat DP and decat centre with a H&S backbox

When Bob gets his hands on it it'll have

The above exhaust
Ported and wrapped headers
Uprated fuel pump
VF34
Uprated filter
Samco hoses
3 port boost soleniod

I also uprated the clutch (exedy organic)
And have had a Knocklink fitted.

And Hopefully I'll have an ernormous grin on my face after it's done.

It'll be great to meet David at Api and Bob too, they've been of enormous help to me

Ns04

shailet

I would love to get something like this done to my uk MY00 turbo but I always hesitate because of cost. How much is all this costing each of you? 3K, 4K...5K?
Its something I wanna do eventually but would be useful to know what I need to save up.

RB5_245

I've done mine over a few years, few hundred quid and there. Spreads the cost quite well and you learn a lot doing that.

redragon

had mine decatted a td05 and remapped a few other bits and bobs now running 310/286 standard 53 wrx... all work done by scoobyclinic the differance was unbelievable

KK3960

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Replaced mine for a TD05 20G compliments of Mr forrest !! Rocket ship modded WRX at 370 BHP and 350Ftlbs and still yet to be tweak mapped with new GT spec headers and APS exhaust!! Then hopefully ill be the next new member of the 400HP club or as near damn it

Tuts

Red Dragon, dont take this the wrong way, im not trying to show off here but my 53wrx is making 280/280 on a td04 with sports cat and decat, exhaust filter and remap from Prosport.

Did they hold the torque back and map for power for a reason or was that all it could make?

I'm curious because I have td05 sitting here waiting to go on once I have STI injectors and a walbro pump.

Or is this the torque limit without changing the injectors etc?

New_scooby_04

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As RB5 says, do it in stages. Go with the exhaust first; you can decat a MY00 without running issues prior to a remap, but a knocklink might be a wise investment (just in case) I'd go for a sports cat DP though for emissions reasons! You can pick up exhausts on here 2nd hand at signifcant reductions! Then got the hoses- again, no remap required. You could then book some ported headers, an upgraded fuel pump (for safety) and a remap. That would get you around 270-280bhp and similar torque. You could probably get all the above fitted for around the price of a PPP. You'll need to budget a few hundred quid more for a turbo e.g. the Hybrid Td04 goes for 400 quid. You then need a further remap. OR save up a bit more and get the turbo done with the rest.

Ns04

scooby_matt

I went from the td04 on standard map to td04 with full de-cat and tek3 (car made 256/285 on Scoobyclinic rollers) and the difference was noticeable, but not mind blowing.
My next step was bigger I/C and td05 16g, again remapped at Scoobyclinic and made 321/315. Basically now a different car and probably as quick as you'd ever need on the road (although I know an 18G will be on the cards in the future ).

I don't abuse the car, but I drive it every day and it still feels quick when you give it the beans after nearly 6 months, unlike the remapped td04 which lost it's novelty after a week or two.

A bigger turbo is a must to make the car what it should always have been.

You'll have no regrets.



Edited to say, it's a MY00 Uk

markwild

The full history of my old classic 98 (including my 282 bhp on the td04 - following a map at Power Engineering) is on www.wildsworld.co.uk

I did 'normal' mods to get to this, then went a bit further.

Its also worth pointing out that you should modify other parts too - such as brakes (I was running 335mm Godspeeds and 4 pots), suspension etc.

My advice (from personal pain - And the same advice I had from John Banks) - don't go past 300 lbs/ft without enough saved for a new 'box - unless you don't mind the car being off the road for a while.......

Mark

Ben v7

Not trying to hi-jack NS04... I am considering this upgrade at some point and was just wondering why the VF34? Is the TD05 16G a better unit? Also as the TD05 16G than the TD04 is more efficient (?) I would of thought you could get away with the standard WRX intercooler quite comfortably? I was thinking on mine I could just swap out the TD04, fit a TD05 16G with STi Pink injectors and be done with it... do I really need an STi Intercooler and happy to save on the headers for the sake of a few hundred rpm higher spool up.

scooby_matt

I'm running a newage wrx intercooler on my MY00 (non STI). Cost next to nothing and was a doddle to fit.

Midlife......

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Jasonius

In answer to your question a few posts back I drove my (then) new MY02 dutch import for the regulation 1000 miles run in period and stuck on a Haywood and Scott full decat with a panel filter and went for a example map "TeK 2" ..about the same as a PPP !!

I guess it went from the factory 215 BHP to about 245 BHP which was nice

When I replaced the TD04 with (you guessed it an Andy Forrest) TDO5 with the rest of the mods it went to 325 BHP ... and the torque

I don't think I'll have the feeling again from a re-map session although the switch to the TD05 18G came close !!

I've now gone for Aquamist / water / methanol / instead of changing a lot of mechanical components.........LOL Still on the OEM gearbox and clutch !!

Shaun

Andy.F

This fan mod in the inner wing made a massive difference to the induction temperature around town or after a stoppage. It would also be ideal for drag racing.
Do you have any pics you can post Mark ?

Andy

markwild

Andy, I do have some rough pics, from when I originally did the mod - as I noted I don't have the car anymore, so I can't take any better ones I'm afraid. I'll put the shots I do have on the next post....

The fan is a 120mm PC fan, which runs off 12V - I connected it via the ignition, so that it would run continually when the engine was running. It fits just nicely into the hole in the wing previously used by the air-intake ducting.

This is the sort of thing : (see bottom of page)http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Delta_Fans.html

Cheers,

Mark

markwild

Also had a reverse induction scoop for when moving.....

jasonius

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Ns04; No I haven't got a P1 unfortunately..

I've got an EU 05 WRX that Bob 'tweaked' last June, along with usual mods made 276/266 at Powerstation last July. I'm been very happy with it and yet to come across anything that's able to outdrag it (M3's, Bluefin Focus RS and one pissed off Z4M roadster owner who nearly wrote his motor off trying to prove a point..!) Silly I know but it puts a smile on my face.. lol, The guy over the road has an awesome RS4 that I'm avoiding as that IS quick and wouldn't fancy my chances..!

However, even though I'm happy I got hold of a VF35, Pink injectors, walbro and ported headers (DIY porting headers and VF35 al'Floyd) for just over £500 and I'm thinking about getting them fitted soon (asked David API about fitting as you are the day before Bob remaps, very accommodating..!)

BUT I'm worried I'm going to miss the fabulous spool-up of my remapped TD04..! IMHO in real world driving response is vitally important. I recon that's why I've had the better of some much higher BHP motors..! This is the reason I've gone for a VF35 (P15 turbine housing) and ported headers, hopefully bringing the spool up close to my TD04. The general consensus is that I should be happy, if not then I'd probably go for a hybrid TD04.

Why are you never satisfied when you start modding..? I suppose it's because in the back of your mind you know more bhp is always possible..!

Very interested to hear how you get on July 1st..

Jason

BTW My above concerns shouldn't be a problem for your classic being that bit lighter..

New_scooby_04

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Hi Mate,

Yep, a remapped WRX on a TD04 will make for a very quick everyday car. A mate of mine with a M3 went for a ride with me in my std classic and went white after! He couldn't believe how quick it felt compared to his car, especially given the price difference. I explained that was this was because my car had not much less torque and was significantly lighter.

Response is important to me too, and those I've spoken too have said that with the VF 28/34/35 and ported headers spool is very similar to the Td04 with the added benefit of more shove and the capacity to pull to the redline!!

Will let you know how I get on.

All the best.

Ns04

silent running

Thought about a VF34 for my 98 WRX wagon, but then a very low mileage VF35 came up cheap and I've not looked back. Spec in brief is VF35, standard headers but rest of zorst is H&S/GGR incl a sports catted downpipe, 1.4 bar boost mapped at Zen with a Power FC, Walbro 255 fuel pump, STi 5 heads. Bigger 440cc injectors ready to fit, and maybe a more capable I/C on the way. TBH there are only two annoyances about the VF35 - one, it's noisy compared to the TD04; two it IS laggier but then that's no surprise really... I could really lug around at 2500 rpm with the TD04, with the VF35 I've been caught out a couple of times, pulling out of junctions etc at low revs - nothing much happens until 3500.

New_scooby_04

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Some ported headers for you then eh??

Ns04

Granby

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Heres my full spec on a 2004 WRX wagon

VF34 turbo
STi intercooler
STi injectors
Uprated fuel pump
Full Decat
Wrapped downpipe
Harvey Smith ported & wrapped headers
Remap by Bob Rawle

Turbo starts to spool at 2500, then by 3200 i have full boost which peaks at 1.45 bar settling down to 1.3 bar (according to Bob when he mapped it)

Happy days

New_scooby_04

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With the exception of the M25 incident?!!

Were you testing out the new top end??

Ns04

Granby

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Don't know what you mean