hojkoff

I don't really care when the driver who caused a collision like that dies, serves them right. But when an innocent driver is killed that’s not right.

I genuinely find it hard to read that.

The little *******s should be locked up for the rest of their pathetic lives.

DJ Dunk

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I didn't say it is.

My point is:

Cheap, high powered cars + total fvckwits with no respect = tears

The Impreza is a very high powered car which has become attainable to this sort of scum.

IMO something needs to be done to stop these sort of idiots stepping into a car which is clearly beyond their driving capabilites.

Daft Lad

In that case why not lose faith in society rather than just a particular type of car?

Agree with the sentiment though matey, doesn't make any difference to my enthusiasm for Impreza's at all though. These idiots should not be allowed behind the wheel of ANY type of car.

Wonder whether the 19 year old was driving or whether it was one of the younger kids?

Petem95

Yep agree, way too many tos$ers driving around in impreza's and other cheapo fast cars thinking theyre Schumacher

Very sad loss for the family involved - hope the scum are caught and punished.

capita

There is something, its called massive insurance premiums, problem is that if they live at home with mom and dad they can afford it, or worse they nick a car and are not insured anyway.

Its a fair point to raise as well that there are other sensible 19year olds who do not drive like twots. They get penalised for others actions.

I did not get a performace car until I was 23 (827? if you can call that performance) and certainly not an impreza till I was 29!!!

My sympathy is with the poor driver of the Golf

Rob

jasonius

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What's the betting this 19yr old will get what amounts to **** all punishment wise (a fine he can't pay and a ban with some points on his license)..!

I cannot see any mitigating circumstances that would preclude giving him the maximum 10yrs for death by dangerous driving..! (make you wonder what has to happen for someone to get this sentence)

I can hear the judge now saying "it's enough punishment that he'll have to live with the consequence of his actions for the rest of his life..." UTTER BOLLOCKS..!!!!! He's already been released from custody FFS.

If a member of my family were killed by some fcukwit like this and he was allowed to walk free I'd have to take matters into my own hands..!!!

DJ Dunk

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The way I see it, massive insurance premiums aren't enough. Anyone that wishes to drive a car over a certain power should have to take advanced driving tests where their competence & skills (or lack of) are fully tested.

Its not going to bring the bloke back or stop idiotic drivers, but its a step in the right direction which may just be enough to put some of them off buying the high powered car. Its a lethal weapon in the wrong hands and should be treated as such.

DJ Dunk

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I suppose its because the Impreza has become the iconic yard stick by which many other cars are measured, certainly within todays youth culture. It seems that they all either want one or want to be faster than one. Unfortunately, its just picked up that image.
We all remember the the fast cars from our youth, but they are getting more and more powerful and kids are less and less capable of handling them.

Wouldn't be surprised if it was one of the younger kids driving

Daft Lad

Aye thats what I thought too

ChungsterSTI

"Freed pending further investigations"

WTF.

Well good luck in finding them again because no doubt they'll be somewhere else right now thinking about another impreza and trying to show boat again.

The british justice system sucks - simple.

I read in the paper last week how much the prison service pays OUT to INMATES who claim infringement of human rights and other stuff. Could not believe what I was reading and the amount of money involved.

As far as I'm concerned as soon as u are banged up ur human rights go out of the window.

But as it is the legal system in this country means they can still live a life of luxury behind bars it seems.

One case was a man being awarded £2.7m.

Work that one out.

Tidgy

if they cant identify the driver they can't prosecute, they may get away with it.

Sbradley

My sister-in-law was killed by a fcukwit driving beyond his capabilities. She was in the passenger seat when he lost control, decided that he was able to recover things without resorting to the brakes and hit a lamp post. Front seat passenger killed instantly, both rear seat passengers left with permanent damage. The driver broke his arm. He had been driving for just six months.

There is no doubt that he was solely and completely to blame. No other vehicle involved, clear, dry conditions.

The Police explained it to me like this.

If he gets done for Death by Dangerous then he goes to trial by jury. If he was sober, the car was his and he apears genuinely remorseful then there is a high probability that the jury will take the "could easily have been me" approach and fail to convict. Then he walks away without even a penalty point.

If he gets done for Careless instead then it's a magistrate and the chances of his getting off are virtually nil. It's just how severe the penalty is.

Our knobber got 6 points (new driver so that's a ban) and the biggest fine they could levy. He has to retake a extended test and will have trouble getting insured for a while. Plus the family took out a (successful) civil action. Does it bring her back? No. Is it enough? No. Is it better than seeing him get off? Oh yes...

It may suck but that's te way it goes. The Police can't change it and just for once it looks as though the CPS are onside as well. I only hope the new (or proosed, I forget which) law that sits between Death by Dangerous and Careless Driving does something to redress it.

SB

LiamWR1(2)

New Law needed.. "The Guilty by Association/Location Law"

If you were in a car which was involved in an accident or criminal activity, and you fail to name the driver of the vehicle, you should be prosecuted as if it was you who committed the crime.

Therefore all four ******* would be banged up!

It's a fecking crazy planet we live on!

Liam

Tidgy

yeah i agree mate

Moley

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IF that Impreza was insured it would have been under the parents name with son as named driver.

Surely they should feel in some way responsible for what has happened.

Daft Lad

If the car wasn't stolen...doesn't say either way in the story.

Gregy

Unfortunately the Police are more interested in the revenue that they get from Camera's rather than policing the roads and arresting bad drivers.

The "safety" campainers will shout "excessive speed" is the route of all evil. Would a camera have prevented this? Doubtful. If there was more Police prescence on the streets, I sure less of this kind of accident would occurr.

Tidgy

if there was more money spent on police officers in patrol cars rather than speed cameras perhaps they would have been stopped before now.

but i garenty that isn't the first time this kid (which ever one was driving) has driven that car that fast (if it was theres).

theres a time and a place for giving it some welly (if you want to) and a 30mph zone isn't it

Tanuki

Unfortunately we can only see more of this type of thing coming on the horizon. The trash are pumping out more kids than any other group in society helped along by generous welfare incentives. These congenitally stupid, hard to educate substance abusers are lowering the standard of living for the rest.

Put them all (the youth offenders) in a peace corps, send them off to overseas to build shelters for genuinely deprived people. Maybe a stint doing some mine clearing.

DJ Dunk

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Now we're talking

scoobyboy1

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Read about this in the paper this morning! People who drive like that give us young drivers a bad name , When I was 19 I had my 1st Impreza, and to be fair I was more worried about breaking the damn thing then going fast all the time.

Its easy for you more mature Impreza drivers to slate younger drivers with performance cars, but were all not like that, Ive learned over the years to respect my car and if I really want to play take it to a track.

John(23 years old and with a clean license)

Gregy

I'll support that. Any chance of the politicans listening though?

Neanderthal

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Strange how 'killers' can get off because CPS can't prove who was driving but if my wife was to borrow my car and get photo'ed by a scamera I would get the points/fine by default if she didn't own up??! That's of course taking into account that the 19 year old actually owns the car. If not, then they should all be done for perverting the course of justice.

LUCKO

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totally agree and would do the same

kingofturds

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imo if none of these ***** own up to driving the car all 3 should be done for manslaughter. Surely it could not have been his car anyway getting insurance at 19 must be nigh on impossible.

lozgti

There was another one in Birmingham recently.Hit and run.Killed a young girl.

He came forward,said he was 'really sorry' and got something like 18 months.

Someone pointed out,how come the bloke who cut his ex's ponytail off got the same sentence? How is someones life valued the same as a haircut?

Sentences for offences in cars are a joke

Mind you,sentences for anything are a joke nowadays

Moley

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RAC reg check says date of last owner change was March 2006.

Either someone has had their car nicked after not having it long, or one of the kids inside was showing off his new car without any consideration of other road users

Trap2Terrorist

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This is covered in todays Daily Express. It happened somewhere in Brum and it's alleged thedriver was doing between 100 and 120mph in a 30mph limit

The driver lost control, hit the central reservstion and "took off like a plane", like a scene in a film. Clipped the merc on the other side of the road and landed on the golf, killing the driver.

Tanuki

Heck, you imagine what that must have been like seeing a flying car coming at you out of nowhere . I hope it was quick.

fatscoobyfella

There should be an age block on certain cars..

Say impreza 25 yr old +,as well as Evo's,Cosworths and many more.
On top of that,if 5 yrs driving experience has not be achieved,they become uninsurable on that car 25yr old+ or not.

At least it may help,and if you did see a "kid" driving one of these cars,then it would mean he is uninsured,etc etc...

The prob is now,if you have the cash,you can drive what you want.With tragic results.