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Old 17 May 2006, 10:20 PM
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I wouldn't say you're dealing with it so well to be honest.

....blame the ref.
Old 17 May 2006, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
^lol

Henry can **** off now. We got Walcott. Bring out the youngsters now and make them step up to the next level, henrys ageing.

arsenal fans turning on there own players
Old 17 May 2006, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
I can deal with it, see the other thread. I said before the game Barca were the stronger team so shove your trolling coments from where they came from, up your ar$e.
fooking hell you got back sharpish didnt you? Or didnt you go?
Old 17 May 2006, 10:25 PM
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Fair enough.....it's that Henry's fault, side foots every chance he gets.

When is he going to realise he can't do that?
Old 17 May 2006, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
Think what you want, i'm sitting in my front room quite calm but at the same time i'm more than happy to argue with and abuse w4nkers on here trolling over an English teams loss.

but i am a spurs fan so of course i wanted Barca to win, and they never let me down.

UP THE BARCA
Old 17 May 2006, 10:35 PM
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Enough taking the ****.....at least until tomorrow.

I'm hitting the sack to watch the '82 final.
Old 17 May 2006, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
Then I wouldn't expect anything less from you lot losing out on Champions League football on the last day of the season
but now you have to go through the qualifying stages and i cant see you doing that without terry henry
Old 17 May 2006, 10:42 PM
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Spurs fans taking the ****... *********. Until your team has done something of note in the European cup you can say *** all.
Old 17 May 2006, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
**** sake stupid mother****ing ****** spanish keeper **** cant save ****. Barca probably paying him off. Ref ruined the ****ing game.

WTF are you on about, pillock. The ref wasnt very good thats true but dont think he made any game changing decisions that were majorly wrong, just stupid thing like when he pulled the game back in the 90th minute for Larrson jumping infront of the keeper when he should have let Arsenal carry on the break, and yellow carding Henry for a quality tackle.

Anyway, made some comments in another thread I'll just copy and paste into here

Sunday league reffereeing IMO. Real poor show. Although am I the only one who could see that the ref had to stop the game, Was it Deco who put the ball in the net? it would have been deemed a pass from Eto'o and he would have been offside so the ref instantly saw this and pulled the game back. Was suprised to see none of the commentators picked up on that

Van Bommell - kn0b.

Henry looked knackered after about 55-60 minutes and I didnt think he did THAT much running in the first half, night on the beer beforehand I though. Think they could have had a better go at it in the last 10minutes though, sat back and let Barca keep possesion, sure you can forgive them for being shattered but a proffessional in a Champions League Final I would expect to be seeing that little bit extra put it.

Top effort though all round, Eboue looks class too
Old 17 May 2006, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
Spurs fans taking the ****... *********. Until your team has done something of note in the European cup you can say *** all.
Old 17 May 2006, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
WTF are you on about, pillock. The ref wasnt very good thats true but dont think he made any game changing decisions that were majorly wrong, just stupid thing like when he pulled the game back in the 90th minute for Larrson jumping infront of the keeper when he should have let Arsenal carry on the break, and yellow carding Henry for a quality tackle.

Anyway, made some comments in another thread I'll just copy and paste into here

Sunday league reffereeing IMO. Real poor show. Although am I the only one who could see that the ref had to stop the game, Was it Deco who put the ball in the net? it would have been deemed a pass from Eto'o and he would have been offside so the ref instantly saw this and pulled the game back. Was suprised to see none of the commentators picked up on that

Van Bommell - kn0b.

Henry looked knackered after about 55-60 minutes and I didnt think he did THAT much running in the first half, night on the beer beforehand I though. Think they could have had a better go at it in the last 10minutes though, sat back and let Barca keep possesion, sure you can forgive them for being shattered but a proffessional in a Champions League Final I would expect to be seeing that little bit extra put it.

Top effort though all round, Eboue looks class too
It was Guily and he was behind the ball when it was played forward so not offside. So many people know jack about football it's untrue.
Old 17 May 2006, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by acko
I wanted Barca to win so I don't know why you're laughing. Spurs.... if they're not **** on the pitch they are ****ting it off it
Old 17 May 2006, 10:49 PM
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Get stuff rolling your eyes, I know the friggin rules, if you take a closer look when Eto'o last touched the ball round Lehman Guily was offside, I couldnt remember who it was off the top of my head, Ive just got in from a run and couldnt remember.
Old 17 May 2006, 10:53 PM
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Interested to know the actual law about the Lehman sending off.
1. Gives the foul and sends the keeper off.
2. Does'nt give the foul, plays advantage & Barca score.
or
Why can't the ref play advantage, let Barca score & then send the keeper off. Any referees on here know the actual law.???
Old 17 May 2006, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Alas
Why can't the ref play advantage, let Barca score & then send the keeper off. Any referees on here know the actual law.???
That is what he should of done although he could have maybe given a yellow for just a late foul as although he was going to stop a goal scoring oppertunity the fact he didn't ultimately means he could have given it just for a late foul and just issed the yellow.
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Get stuff rolling your eyes, I know the friggin rules, if you take a closer look when Eto'o last touched the ball round Lehman Guily was offside, I couldnt remember who it was off the top of my head, Ive just got in from a run and couldnt remember.
I'm on the wind up but he was behind the ball when it was played forward.
Old 17 May 2006, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
Their first goal was clearly off side, however at the speed it was played it was another 50/50 as to whether it would be given. Again would have been a different game if it had been called but thats football.
but the liner cant tell if Larson touches the ball. it was close but with than thrown in you are begging a bit IMHO. Part of football when that close. You had your chances and missed them they took theirs. Way it goes. The ref was poor but you could have been 1-0 down and with ten men.
Old 17 May 2006, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
Not arguing any of that at all, Henry was **** tonight. Freddie was excellent up front but didn't get the service Henry did, Toure and Eboue are sheer class in defence though and bode well for the future. Henry said he was tired in the after game interviews but I don't accept that as an excuse. Freddie was running all night and he had power in his shots. I also think it was a wrong move taking Pires off and Hleb should have gone off but again difficult choice, I just would have prefered Pires flair and lay offs to Henry over Hleb's work rate.
fair assesment
Old 17 May 2006, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
Pires also scores a hell of a lot more goals than Hleb but still gets back and defends well. Think Wenger went on age rather than experience on that decision going for a younger player to last the game better.
I'd have kept Pires on more for the fact he is one of the player who can slide Henry in with a killer pass.. not that it would have done much good tonight
Old 18 May 2006, 12:19 AM
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From a football fans point of view I am gutted for Arsenal as it would have been nice for the cup to be brought back to English soil once again.

The ref got the Lehmann decession spot on in my eyes. Yes he could of played on by I think he made up his mind before Guily side footed in?

Almunia played well considering the lack of first team games he has played this year for the club. The only thing I would say is I thought he could have used his kicks to more affect?

The REF was a 12th man for Barca no doubt there. You only had to look a the decisions he was making to notice he was a tit who was not up to the game. He ruined what was deemed to be one of the greatest European cup finals in recent times. I think FIFA should suspend him or at least knock him down the pecking order.

Ronaldiniho vs Henry........the reason why Henry wasn't on his best performance was the fact that he ran his t*ts off so early in the game.Everytime the ball did come his way it was away from him meaning that Puyol and Marques got close to him. He did not have the support up front as they were behind him defending........was it me or was he playing like himself before the red card incident and He was also a bit off of the play after he got the knock from Marques and after he picked up his booking.

Ronaldiniho.....for me on the night he didn't do as much running as Henry and in fairness he had each ball (90% of the time) played to feet. he fluffed more chances than Henry on the night and part of this was down to Toure and Campbell being strong and getting there blocks. It was good to see that he is human with a couple of fluffs he made.

Pires, shame such a team player had to end the night like that so early on. As it was a shame to see the likes of Larsson and Bergkamp leave the football world.

For me over the course of this season Barca deserved it over Arsenal. But I still put most of the result down to such poor performance of the ref.

Before anyone comes up with "your a gooner".....no I am not. I am a Cherry through and through and have seen both Arsenal and Barca play this season so I can make up my own mind.

Good night and god bless
Old 18 May 2006, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Stevesbluewrx
The REF was a 12th man for Barca no doubt there.
Are you sure? The free kick for the arsenal goal was up there with dive of the season and he could have given the Barca goal after the Lehman foul.

No I think he was just a bit dodgy all round with his decisions, don't think they favoured any team in particular.
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Maybe I didn't word it right bud?

What I mean is that he should have used his cards more on the Barca players than he did. Some of the fouls he gave against Arsenal were pointless and if a Barca player did like wise he didn't blow up.

True Eboue did make a meal of it but then he didn't give a foul against Van Bommel on Freddie Ljunberg and then Barca got a foul outside the box (which Ronnie made a complete **** up up) straight after. He was too inconsistant and most of the time against Arsenal.

Like I said it's my point of view at the end of the day.

Old 18 May 2006, 08:29 AM
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The Ref was ****e and maybe slightly biased towards Barca. Remove his ****e decisions and it would probably have been 1-0 to Barca.

It's tough enough playing against Barca with 11 men. Lehman wont be feeling too happy .

Oh well - there's always next year.

ps acko - If you ask anyone in Europe about Spurs they'll say "They're fine things for getting your horse to move - but what's that got to do with Football ?" :


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