Moley

iTrader: (9)

I am not a part of the don't do it brigade. I have done things in the past which could easily have got me banned if i had been caught.

But i resist doing it these day, because of the above reasons.

We know that speeding is the worse offence in the eyes of the police, and i have learnt over the years that as a motorist you are a VERY easy target.

As much as i hate to admit it the tactics of the police have definately slowed me down. There are plenty of posts on here discribing the tactics they use (trying to make you race in their Evo etc).

That is why if i want to thrash my car i'll do it on a track or quater mile. NOT because i don't agree with doing it on the road (if the time and place is suitable), but because you just make the police's job a lot easier for them.

WRXPete

If you fail to return the NIP giving details of the driver you commit an offence. What's more the law allows them to go after the registered keeper, even if they weren't driving the car. Saying the car was cloned may work but i doubt it somehow.

Best bet is talk to a solicitor. What speed were you doing do you think. The speed alone may be enough to get dangerous driving, but if there was nothing else around and conditions were okay, then they may accept a guilty plea for speeding instead, much less impact on your insurance etc. Sadly, if it's obvious you were racing that's a whole other offence and they may lump the two together as proof of the dangerous or at least careless driving.

crazybri

yeah it was a sec172 asking who was driving the car etc.... i havent filled it in yet.. and yes i did win! was very supprised. as for the speed i was doin, maybe around 30mph something like that

it must be on film how they have caught me, cause i dont know how else i have been caught, no police cars whats so ever were around.

vindaloo

S'pose the first thing to do is to get this thread deleted then as you've already admitted you raced.... Even if it wasn't on all of the roads mentioned.

IMO it's not all about one race... Where I work, lots of people from the local cruise scene used to park up for a chat and some used to 'race' along the dual (duel?) carriageway between the roundabouts. One day some flowers appeared... Soon after, the council covered the area in crash barriers to prevent people from parking up off the road etc.

Probably park security or some local company has a policy on reporting this type of stuff and has sent in the reg. nos. and/or CCTV.

J.

Bubba po

I'll see your , and raise you a

Crazy Chick

SJ_Skyline

Size isn't everything - it's what you do with it what counts!

little-ginge

I bet that's what your ladies have told you in the past

scoob_babe

Wouldn't you like to know

little-ginge

not really

SJ_Skyline

so why make such a sweeping statement then?

little-ginge

sweeping statement? it was a general jocular comment not on a want or need to know basis

Crazy Chick

What a muppet.

little-ginge

Aren't we all...

Lum

Any chance you could scan the NIP, edit out any personal details (including any reference numbers and bar codes) and post it here, so we have a better idea of what we're dealing with?

If you don't reply to the NIP within the time period given, you have comitted the offence of failing to furnish details, they can do you for this and still conduct enquiries into the original offence. This could involve a bunch of coppers turning up on your doorstep and asking you questions, and they could feasibly still try to prosecute you for the original offence in addition to the S172 violation, though with no evidence that you were the driver this could be harder to prove.

I agree that you should see a solicitor, and quickly to avoid the additional S172 offence which I beleive carries up to 6 points and a £1000 fine. OTOH if you're looking at a ban, it may be worth refusing to supply any information, taking the above penalty and still having a licence at the end of it.

Personally I'd get some legal advice first.

davyboy

Landor road, Birmingham by any chance?

Diablo

LOL

If the police didn't either see you or catch you by a camera designed specifically for that purpose you should be in the clear.

Otherwise, unless its blindingly obvious that it was you driving, AND it can be proved beyond any doubt that the video or photographic evidence that the police have is the original video (which proof is highly unlikely under the circumstances) then the evidence is inadmissable in court. likewise if any video or photographic evidence has been enhanced it is also inadmissable.

If it was me, I would phone up, say you've got this NIP, are unsure as to what its about and ask some questions about why you are being served with it.

Clearly, if you wern't there you will be unable to confirm who was driving the car at the time.

What may have happened, is that a beat copper patrolling the estate may have seen you, noted your number and reported it, in which case you are screwed.

Lets hope it was just some jumped up **** security guard with ideas above his station.

But for the NIP to show three different roads suggests there is more to this than meets the eye. Could you have been video'd by a police helicopter?

andy97

iTrader: (1)

At this stage he must not contact the police, it will only make it worse. He has 28 days to reply to the nip, use this time to speak to a specialist motoring law firm. I would also delete all comments of what you had allegedly been doing from this thread.

secton 172 offence carries 3 points and max £1000 fine at the moment!