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Old 29 January 2006, 09:35 AM
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Just wondered if anyone ever takes any notice of my comment about induction kits not working. On my car it was proven it was affecting performance.

I think sometimes people just blindly spend money on peoples ''yeah they are great'' say so.

sad oh so sad.

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Old 29 January 2006, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Just wondered if anyone ever takes any notice of my comment about induction kits not working. On my car it was proven it was affecting performance.

I think sometimes people just blindly spend money on peoples ''yeah they are great'' say so.

sad oh so sad.

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Well if they are stupid enough to ignore your comment, let them get on with it.

There is obviously no hope for them
Old 29 January 2006, 09:45 AM
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Its more the people who advise people to buy stuff just to justify their own spending which gets on my nerves ......''yeah gotta ave it aint ya, its great, sounds massive dunnit''.......

Perhaps a thread should be started with people justifying their comments with hard facts on the matter.
Old 29 January 2006, 09:54 AM
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everybody has there own experience's and opinions this is mine.
its up to the individual as to which one to take aboard.

Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Just wondered if anyone ever takes any notice of my comment about induction kits not working. On my car it was proven it was affecting performance.

I think sometimes people just blindly spend money on peoples ''yeah they are great'' say so.

sad oh so sad.

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Old 29 January 2006, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobypeterpump
i have a hks induction kit fitted to my 96 wrx it has been on the car for over a year no problems.previous had blitz sus induction kit,sti panel filter,green panel filter and none of them are as good as the hks.
How can you quantify this please?
Old 29 January 2006, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Its more the people who advise people to buy stuff just to justify their own spending which gets on my nerves ......''yeah gotta ave it aint ya, its great, sounds massive dunnit''.......

Perhaps a thread should be started with people justifying their comments with hard facts on the matter.
Yeah I know exactly what you mean. Trouble is it does seem that most people are more interested in how something looks and sounds rather than the fact by putting it on they will lose performance
Old 29 January 2006, 10:05 AM
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like i said above i have had no problems with the hks kit.i am not saying they can't damage your engine i am just giving my opinion,experience on the kit.

Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
How can you quantify this please?
Old 29 January 2006, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobypeterpump
like i said above i have had no problems with the hks kit.i am not saying they can't damage your engine i am just giving my opinion,experience on the kit.

Im not talking about damaging your engine fella im interested in how its better than the others you listed?????.......
Old 29 January 2006, 10:13 AM
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Urm sorry to point out the obvious jockc, but typing like the above, in fact shows that you are the ******.

Please do explain how Bubba getting a **** will stop him picking on peoples grammer
I'm married and have been for many years. Some might say I'll never get a **** now.

Sorry, Manda.

It isn't jock's grammar that infuriates me anyroad. It's his loopy opinions that he throws into serious discussions. Such as if you drive a ****e MG and ur(sic) rubbish at driving you deserve to die.
Old 29 January 2006, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Im not talking about damaging your engine fella im interested in how its better than the others you listed?????.......
It looks better ......... Duh

After all if it looks better it performs better, right?

Craig

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Old 29 January 2006, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Heple
It looks better ......... Duh

After all if it looks better it performs better, right?

Craig
Yep according to Max Power
Old 29 January 2006, 10:17 AM
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well the hks feels more smoother on excelration seem's to give more power
also as a bonus it looks better and you have the dumping sound.
did not have these symptoms with the other panels,induction kits.

Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Im not talking about damaging your engine fella im interested in how its better than the others you listed?????.......
Old 29 January 2006, 10:17 AM
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Ahh the mastermind of all car modding

Max Power

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Old 29 January 2006, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobypeterpump
well the hks feels more smoother on excelration seem's to give more power
also as a bonus it looks better and you have the dumping sound.
did not have these symptoms with the other panels,induction kits.
Have you ever had your inlet temps measured?

Is your Induction kit boxed in?

Craig
Old 29 January 2006, 10:23 AM
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well a few months back andy f mapped my apexi power fc and i asked him to check everything temp,knocking etc.He said everything was fine.

Originally Posted by Heple
Have you ever had your inlet temps measured?

Is your Induction kit boxed in?

Craig
Old 29 January 2006, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobypeterpump
well the hks feels more smoother on excelration seem's to give more power
also as a bonus it looks better and you have the dumping sound.
did not have these symptoms with the other panels,induction kits.
Sorry scoobypeterpump but you are just the kind of person I was talking about with my previous comment. It feels smoother on acceleration. WTF is that all about?
Hard facts thats whats needed not '''''it cost me £400 so i've got to say it kind of feels smoother''''''
Old 29 January 2006, 10:31 AM
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mate you have your own opinion and i except that at the end of the day
you look at most performance car's evo's,skylines they have hks kits fitted
so they can't be that bad.


Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Sorry scoobypeterpump but you are just the kind of person I was talking about with my previous comment. It feels smoother on acceleration. WTF is that all about?
Hard facts thats whats needed not '''''it cost me £400 so i've got to say it kind of feels smoother''''''
Old 29 January 2006, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobypeterpump
mate you have your own opinion and i except that at the end of the day
you look at most performance car's evo's,skylines they have hks kits fitted
so they can't be that bad.
But they dont have the same issue's as Impreza's such as weak MAF's and an exhaust manifold that goes right underneath the induction kit.

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So just because HKS sell loads it means they are good and actually doing something for your car does it?

Not meaning to have a go at you by the way, just what your comments represent .... Ie money from newbies expecting big gains they will never see.
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Originally Posted by Heple
But they dont have the same issue's as Impreza's such as weak MAF's and an exhaust manifold that goes right underneath the induction kit.

Craig
Im not actually talking about MAF's here.....im talking about the car running reduced power because of the induction kit being fitted.

MAF failure is something I am not 100% convinced of either by the way
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Originally Posted by scoobypeterpump
mate you have your own opinion and i except that at the end of the day
you look at most performance car's evo's,skylines they have hks kits fitted
so they can't be that bad.
Ah well if evos and skylines have them, then thats a good enough reason to have one on my scooby
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Im not actually talking about MAF's here.....im talking about the car running reduced power because of the induction kit being fitted.

MAF failure is something I am not 100% convinced of either by the way
I see where your coming from.

I agree with you that panel filters are better they are well tested on here now for providing cooler intake temps than induction kits - You just have to read the "webmasters" modding thread for the proof.

i just thought it would be a good oppertunity to discuss some other effects an aftermarket induction kit can have.

I have a MY99 MAF and i'm well aware of its weaknesses especially if coupled up with an induction kit.

Craig
Old 29 January 2006, 10:41 AM
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mate i have had my scooby for over 2 years so i am not a newbie (well only to scoobynet).
the kit cost me £100 from ebay well worth the money.

Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
So just because HKS sell loads it means they are good nd actually doing something for your car does it?

Not meaning to have a go at you by the way, just what your comments represent .... Ie money from newbies expecting big gains they will never see.
Old 29 January 2006, 10:44 AM
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well they are the cream of the crop
Originally Posted by ScoobLou
Ah well if evos and skylines have them, then thats a good enough reason to have one on my scooby
Old 29 January 2006, 10:45 AM
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Why was it 'well worth the money'?
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Originally Posted by scoobypeterpump
mate i have had my scooby for over 2 years so i am not a newbie (well only to scoobynet).
the kit cost me £100 from ebay well worth the money.
You misunderstand me. You are the guy who newbies will listen to. You sing the praises of the HKS and newbies follow and spend their hard earned. You state that the HKS is better than panel filters but have nothing to back your comment up other than 'it feels smoother on acceleration'.....

Scoobynet is ripe for people spending vast amounts of money after people listen to members comments. I should know I have spent £thousands on such things.

My proof is that my trust kit (like your HKS used on many jap cars) was increasing inlet temp, when it was mapped by Richard Bulmer ( i can spout names too). On his advise it was removed there and then and replaced with a green cotton filter. The inlet temp reduced by 14 degrees.
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read above comments
Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Why was it 'well worth the money'?
Old 29 January 2006, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
You misunderstand me. You are the guy who newbies will listen to. You sing the praises of the HKS and newbies follow and spend their hard earned. You state that the HKS is better than panel filters but have nothing to back your comment up other than 'it feels smoother on acceleration'.....

Scoobynet is ripe for people spending vast amounts of money after people listen to members comments. I should know I have spent £thousands on such things.

My proof is that my trust kit (like your HKS used on many jap cars) was increasing inlet temp, when it was mapped by Richard Bulmer ( i can spout names too). On his advise it was removed there and then and replaced with a green cotton filter. The inlet temp reduced by 14 degrees.
Agreed - This is more of a worry with the search facility down.

Craig
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Why was it 'well worth the money'?
Because it cost £40 more than a panel filter and increased inlet temps.

BARGIN

Craig.
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ok i sing the praises for hks and you panel filters that's life as i said above
everyone has there own opinions i may not have anything to back me up
but it is my opinion.

quote=Gutmann pug]You misunderstand me. You are the guy who newbies will listen to. You sing the praises of the HKS and newbies follow and spend their hard earned. You state that the HKS is better than panel filters but have nothing to back your comment up other than 'it feels smoother on acceleration'.....

Scoobynet is ripe for people spending vast amounts of money after people listen to members comments. I should know I have spent £thousands on such things.

My proof is that my trust kit (like your HKS used on many jap cars) was increasing inlet temp, when it was mapped by Richard Bulmer ( i can spout names too). On his advise it was removed there and then and replaced with a green cotton filter. The inlet temp reduced by 14 degrees.[/quote]


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