WRX MY03 - Best 350+/350+ upgrade?
02 December 2005, 07:50 PM
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you don't need the samco hoses unless you want them for looks.
None of the PPP exhaust is 3", but 2.5" will be enough for your needs anyway. You also list tubular headers AND ported OE headers, which are you going to go for!?
Stick with the 18g for a UK WRX, higher numbers don't always mean better.
Paul
None of the PPP exhaust is 3", but 2.5" will be enough for your needs anyway. You also list tubular headers AND ported OE headers, which are you going to go for!?
Stick with the 18g for a UK WRX, higher numbers don't always mean better.
Paul
02 December 2005, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonius
Plug wise NGK PRF7B's are the one's to got for (~£40 sparkplugs.co.uk)
STI TMIC: you want the MY03> (aka sti8>)
I'd advise the matching scoop (as well as splitter) to make most of uprated TM.
OEM ported headers £100 exchange from Harvey
Don't see why you need plug lead set..? scoobs use coilpacks..!
APS cold air feed not nec. IMHO Uprated panel filter (Green/KN) more than sufficient for your target.
Uprated STI TMIC comes with alloy 'y' pipe and samco elbow so strictly speaking you don't need to upgrade any other pipework.
This should save unecessary expence and keep cost/gains more respectable.
Most of this advice is from people who have tried and tested what works and what dosen't.
STI TMIC: you want the MY03> (aka sti8>)
I'd advise the matching scoop (as well as splitter) to make most of uprated TM.
OEM ported headers £100 exchange from Harvey
Don't see why you need plug lead set..? scoobs use coilpacks..!
APS cold air feed not nec. IMHO Uprated panel filter (Green/KN) more than sufficient for your target.
Uprated STI TMIC comes with alloy 'y' pipe and samco elbow so strictly speaking you don't need to upgrade any other pipework.
This should save unecessary expence and keep cost/gains more respectable.
Most of this advice is from people who have tried and tested what works and what dosen't.
Oh, btw, you know I started this thread with the title 350/350? Well having read Scooby magazine and thought about this, the ultimate target may be a ...touch... higher. Anyway, want to make this as a minimum really, with, scope, if you know what I mean :-)
Originally Posted by Zen Performance
you don't need the samco hoses unless you want them for looks.
None of the PPP exhaust is 3", but 2.5" will be enough for your needs anyway. You also list tubular headers AND ported OE headers, which are you going to go for!?
Stick with the 18g for a UK WRX, higher numbers don't always mean better.
Paul
None of the PPP exhaust is 3", but 2.5" will be enough for your needs anyway. You also list tubular headers AND ported OE headers, which are you going to go for!?
Stick with the 18g for a UK WRX, higher numbers don't always mean better.
Paul
Err, seem to have made another boo boo with the headers thing. I won't go back over the previous posts to try and edit my foolishness. I'll leave it in there so other newbies can 'tut' with smug satisfaction when they spot the error early on and have it confirmed by an expert in your post. Newbies beware, you can't get away with anything on this forum!
Cheers, and new list to follow soon.
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06 December 2005, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
You could do a lot worse than get yourself a copy of the latest Scooby magazine, it describes exactly what you are asking about.
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We're you referring to the WR1 work by RCM? I don't have that sort of dosh!!
07 December 2005, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
Gearbox £2k+
08 December 2005, 07:38 PM
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Sadly Bob may be right unless you are lucky or you drive sympathetically.
F
PS forgot to say clutch... Power ain't cheap and the higher you go the costs keep growing
F
PS forgot to say clutch... Power ain't cheap and the higher you go the costs keep growing
08 December 2005, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Floyd
And some uprated suspension would be a good idea too.
Oh look, you've spent £6k+
F
Oh look, you've spent £6k+
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I had some very good advice (I thought) to leave the clutch as standard, or at least not go for a high strength replacement, as it'll then act as a kind of 'fuse' between the uprated engine and the standard drive.
The list is awaiting Andy F's article in Scooby Magazine, as I want to see what happened with the hybrid turbo and the latest manifolds.
Ive also heard the phrase 'twin scroll' which sounds expensive but I think I might want one..
09 December 2005, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Butty
Hence why I wanted a driveable car in the low 300's.
Even at that level the Prodrive brakes are now starting to get tested.
I'd really recommend that if on std 4 pot set up you consider some sort of upgrade is part of the engine work.
nick
Even at that level the Prodrive brakes are now starting to get tested.
I'd really recommend that if on std 4 pot set up you consider some sort of upgrade is part of the engine work.
nick
09 December 2005, 01:41 PM
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Tidgy: I'd use the term 'safely', loosely. Certainly not as safe as running the car as it came out of the factory.
NXG: As long as you have budgeted for it and know that with those power goals it will be on borrowed time. Alternatively you could reconsider your power goals. I tried to ignore the box issue also, but it didnt stop it from breaking within a short period of time.
NXG: As long as you have budgeted for it and know that with those power goals it will be on borrowed time. Alternatively you could reconsider your power goals. I tried to ignore the box issue also, but it didnt stop it from breaking within a short period of time.
09 December 2005, 05:28 PM
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good thread
to add my 2p worth,mines running around 348/338 on standard internals(my00)
just ate an organic clutch in under 4000 miles which,in turn,buggered my £350 lightened flywheel. maybe worth going for a better clutch but i stuck to the same make even though it looks totally different <huh>
to add my 2p worth,mines running around 348/338 on standard internals(my00)
just ate an organic clutch in under 4000 miles
which,in turn,buggered my £350 lightened flywheel. maybe worth going for a better clutch but i stuck to the same make even though it looks totally different <huh>
09 December 2005, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
NXG: As long as you have budgeted for it and know that with those power goals it will be on borrowed time. Alternatively you could reconsider your power goals. I tried to ignore the box issue also, but it didnt stop it from breaking within a short period of time.
09 December 2005, 06:21 PM
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acceleration is a function of BHP assuming you have a choice of gears. Don't make the mistake of looking only for impressive torque, or you will have a turbo diesel.
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09 December 2005, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Zen Performance
acceleration is a function of BHP assuming you have a choice of gears. Don't make the mistake of looking only for impressive torque, or you will have a turbo diesel.
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It's the 30 to 80 bracket where I need the performance. Is it possible to tune for this?
09 December 2005, 07:12 PM
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The WRX gearing is ideal for circa 350bhp and 30-80 stuff as you can do it in 2 gears unlike the Sti of that year !
The gearbox will be close to its limit from a strength perspective though. There are a few 370-400 bhp new WRX's out there still on std boxes but I wouldn't bet on how long they will last.
It is possible to tune for different requirements such as 1/4mile, top speed or
dyno queening 
The problem comes when you sell the car on and it is not ideal (or even safe) for multi purpose use. Hence most maps are a compromise in some way.
Andy
The gearbox will be close to its limit from a strength perspective though. There are a few 370-400 bhp new WRX's out there still on std boxes but I wouldn't bet on how long they will last.
It is possible to tune for different requirements such as 1/4mile, top speed or
dyno queening The problem comes when you sell the car on and it is not ideal (or even safe) for multi purpose use. Hence most maps are a compromise in some way.Andy
09 December 2005, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
The WRX gearing is ideal for circa 350bhp and 30-80 stuff as you can do it in 2 gears unlike the Sti of that year !
The gearbox will be close to its limit from a strength perspective though. There are a few 370-400 bhp new WRX's out there still on std boxes but I wouldn't bet on how long they will last.
It is possible to tune for different requirements such as 1/4mile, top speed or dyno queening The problem comes when you sell the car on and it is not ideal (or even safe) for multi purpose use. Hence most maps are a compromise in some way.
Andy
The gearbox will be close to its limit from a strength perspective though. There are a few 370-400 bhp new WRX's out there still on std boxes but I wouldn't bet on how long they will last.
It is possible to tune for different requirements such as 1/4mile, top speed or
dyno queening The problem comes when you sell the car on and it is not ideal (or even safe) for multi purpose use. Hence most maps are a compromise in some way.Andy
. It seems 350 is a kind of watershed for the WRX, after which you have to dig a lot deeper financially against a depreciating return. From looking through the Scooby magazine and other articles on the forum, it looks like you have to fork out large amounts after the 350 level to acheive the considerable increases in bhp required to knock ever smaller amounts off the 0-60 time etc.
09 December 2005, 11:40 PM
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I guess I'm one of the guys on the Bugeye standard internals / clutch / gearbox running 350 BHP plus mentioned by Andy F on one of his 18G's
It's a daily driver and has never been dragged / tracked etc (It belongs to Nat West Bank at the moment !) so I'm pretty sympathetic
Thanks to Bob Rawle, Andy and RCMS it carves up the slower traffic on the local roads
Shaun
It's a daily driver and has never been dragged / tracked etc (It belongs to Nat West Bank at the moment !) so I'm pretty sympathetic
Thanks to Bob Rawle, Andy and RCMS it carves up the slower traffic on the local roads
Shaun
09 December 2005, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Midlife......
I guess I'm one of the guys on the Bugeye standard internals / clutch / gearbox running 350 BHP plus mentioned by Andy F on one of his 18G's
It's a daily driver and has never been dragged / tracked etc (It belongs to Nat West Bank at the moment !) so I'm pretty sympathetic
Thanks to Bob Rawle, Andy and RCMS it carves up the slower traffic on the local roads
Shaun
It's a daily driver and has never been dragged / tracked etc (It belongs to Nat West Bank at the moment !) so I'm pretty sympathetic
Thanks to Bob Rawle, Andy and RCMS it carves up the slower traffic on the local roads
Shaun
10 December 2005, 12:00 AM
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Somewhere on my hard drive is a list of all the mods I have done......I gave up adding to the list as I also included the cost ......LOL
Shaun
This is the last entry......
MY02 Subaru WRX European import. WR Blue mica
Engine
Deadbolt Enterprises TD05 18G Turbo Monster port / Andy Forrest Ported
APS FMIC DR 500 Intercooler
Samco Silicon hoses
Sti Pink Injectors
Walbro fuel pump
SX fuel pump regulator
3 port boost solenoid
Roger Clark Motorsport Induction kit
Roger Clark Motorsport wrapped headers
Roger Clark Motorsport up-pipe
BRD / Janspeed wrapped downpipe
Revolution 3” Exhaust
Foglamp cold air feed
EcuTeK 3 Custom re-map by BRD (Bob Rawle)
Prodrive quickshift
Suspension / brakes
Eibach springs and full laser geometry
Whiteline drop links
Cusco front strut brace
Tar Ox 12 pot front Brakes
Tar Ox rear brake conversion
Goodrich braided hoses
Exterior
Carbon fibre bonnet
Sti rear wing
Kahn RS-V 19” wheels
Sti bonnet scoop
Ochiari lip spoiler and mesh
Mesh fog lamp protectors
Morette twin headlamp conversion
TSL carbon fibre side reflector covers
Smoked repeaters with silvatek bulbs
Smoked lexus rear lamp clusters
Sti pink badge
Colour coded sills
Interior
Psi 3 SECS data monitor
Drfi guages
Knocklink
Aluminium gear surround
oops
forgot to add the AVCR Boost controller !!
Somewhere on my hard drive is a list of all the mods I have done......I gave up adding to the list as I also included the cost ......LOL
Shaun
This is the last entry......
MY02 Subaru WRX European import. WR Blue mica
Engine
Deadbolt Enterprises TD05 18G Turbo Monster port / Andy Forrest Ported
APS FMIC DR 500 Intercooler
Samco Silicon hoses
Sti Pink Injectors
Walbro fuel pump
SX fuel pump regulator
3 port boost solenoid
Roger Clark Motorsport Induction kit
Roger Clark Motorsport wrapped headers
Roger Clark Motorsport up-pipe
BRD / Janspeed wrapped downpipe
Revolution 3” Exhaust
Foglamp cold air feed
EcuTeK 3 Custom re-map by BRD (Bob Rawle)
Prodrive quickshift
Suspension / brakes
Eibach springs and full laser geometry
Whiteline drop links
Cusco front strut brace
Tar Ox 12 pot front Brakes
Tar Ox rear brake conversion
Goodrich braided hoses
Exterior
Carbon fibre bonnet
Sti rear wing
Kahn RS-V 19” wheels
Sti bonnet scoop
Ochiari lip spoiler and mesh
Mesh fog lamp protectors
Morette twin headlamp conversion
TSL carbon fibre side reflector covers
Smoked repeaters with silvatek bulbs
Smoked lexus rear lamp clusters
Sti pink badge
Colour coded sills
Interior
Psi 3 SECS data monitor
Drfi guages
Knocklink
Aluminium gear surround
oops
forgot to add the AVCR Boost controller !!
10 December 2005, 05:57 PM
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But whos car is the test one and who has the most bits and bobs stashed in their garage/bedroom/stable/ontop of the filing cabinet at work etc etc Im sure between the pair of you you would be able to open a shop...............
10 December 2005, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Midlife......
NXG
Somewhere on my hard drive is a list of all the mods I have done......I gave up adding to the list as I also included the cost ......LOL
Shaun
This is the last entry......
== List of desireable mods removedv==
Somewhere on my hard drive is a list of all the mods I have done......I gave up adding to the list as I also included the cost ......LOL
Shaun
This is the last entry......
== List of desireable mods removedv==
Gussy, if you have/know of the whereabouts of anything on this list under the 'Engine' section, let me know!!
Thanks!
10 December 2005, 07:59 PM
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guys how do you find the avcr
form a guy who was to chicken to follow the 18g guys who now wish he did
but love the vf35 /p18 housing any way
if i was going for over 350 i would swap the gear box before it died, at least that way you can sell it on
form a guy who was to chicken to follow the 18g guys who now wish he did
but love the vf35 /p18 housing any way
if i was going for over 350 i would swap the gear box before it died, at least that way you can sell it on