LCD OR PLASMA ?
Originally Posted by Deep Singh
I wouldn't let everyone know you watch Friends!

thanks for the comments guys, still need a piece of smoked glass for the cabinet..anyone know anywhere i can get one?
I currently have a Panasonic TH42PV500 plasma and am very pleased with it. Several people on this thread have said LCD is the future but i don't think that will be the case. There is something called SED ( i can't remember what the letters stand for) on the horizon. SED TV's will be very similar to CRT TV'S without the huge bulge at the rear, ie they will be flat panel TV's with CRT picture quality which is superior to both Plasma and LCD. I believe SED TV'S from Toshiba will be on the market in the next 12-18 months. Geoff.
Our big telly was dominating the living room, and blocking the view out of the room to the conservatory, so we got rid of it...

and now at the press of a button it looks like this:

In TV terms that's a 9 foot screen (diagonally) but completely unobtrusive when rolled up. You really need the room fairly dark to get a decent picture though. Popcorn anyone ?

and now at the press of a button it looks like this:

In TV terms that's a 9 foot screen (diagonally) but completely unobtrusive when rolled up. You really need the room fairly dark to get a decent picture though. Popcorn anyone ?
lol @ picture quality being fine when your sitting away from the screen
isn't that what the games programmers used to say about the speccy 48k graphics when they hyped up new game
"sit a few metres away and it REALLY looks just like the arcade machine"
all the lcd/plasma stuff i have looked at looked very disappointing IMO
i'm sticking with CRT for the foreseeable future
isn't that what the games programmers used to say about the speccy 48k graphics when they hyped up new game
"sit a few metres away and it REALLY looks just like the arcade machine"

all the lcd/plasma stuff i have looked at looked very disappointing IMO
i'm sticking with CRT for the foreseeable future
Can I also chuck in another option.
Sony have just bought their High Definition 3LCD rear projection TV's into the UK. They have an auto Iris so resolve blacks better than direct view LCD or Plasma, colours are vibrant and the set is only 14" deep.
Sony are currently supplying a free stand with the 50" version and all for £1200-£1400.
If you are not wall mounting then I would give them a look.


Cheers
Lee
Sony have just bought their High Definition 3LCD rear projection TV's into the UK. They have an auto Iris so resolve blacks better than direct view LCD or Plasma, colours are vibrant and the set is only 14" deep.
Sony are currently supplying a free stand with the 50" version and all for £1200-£1400.
If you are not wall mounting then I would give them a look.


Cheers
Lee
How easy/costly is it to get a plasma/lcd screen wall mounted with the cables hidden? I'm on a ground floor flat and the wall I'd mount it on is load-bearing and absolutely solid when you tap it! Ideally I'd like to add an electric fireplace centrally positioned with a plasma mouted a little bit above it but I'd want a clean installation. How likely is this given that the wall seems solid.
Finally what are the issues of mounting a plasma above a fire?
Finally what are the issues of mounting a plasma above a fire?
Sort of following on from Saxos question. I'm having my house rewired from top to bottom. Any suggestions about how I can take advantage of this so that AV equipment(home cinema, music) once I buy it, can blend in with minimal exposed wires etc.
I wall mounted my Plasma which cost me £160 for the bracket put it on the wall myself too. I wanted to chase the cables into the walls but wasnt allowed, misses didnt like the idea. So Im using trunking but its only about 1 foot away from my AV cabinet so Im not too fussed. Providing you take you time you could easily do it yourself.....
A plasma above a fire is not a good thing, the heat from the fire will ruin the plasma. Personally I would find it too busy so took out fire out and just have the plasma on the chimney breast now
A plasma above a fire is not a good thing, the heat from the fire will ruin the plasma. Personally I would find it too busy so took out fire out and just have the plasma on the chimney breast now
Originally Posted by OllyK
Sarcasm aside, there is a lot of pomp and waffle about AV related stuff. In general, set your budget, go to 1 or 2 reputable outlets (preferably a specialist not your Currys etc). Tell them what you want to be able to do. Get them to set up a couple of demos for you and then watch / listen to it. Pick the one that YOU think is best, what other people think doesn't really matter.
As for HDTV Comet has a good demo atm,it really is impressive.
Originally Posted by davegtt
PS.Nice flooring.
Nope its the perfect viewing height, nobody has complained its high. much better than looking down on the old CRT.
p.s thanks
love it myself apart from when Im watching TV and the bl00dy dog is tap dancing and generally making a racket
Misses wants a rug but defeats the object of the floor IMO
p.s thanks
love it myself apart from when Im watching TV and the bl00dy dog is tap dancing and generally making a racket
Misses wants a rug but defeats the object of the floor IMO
no it'll ruin the glass IIRC... theres alot of coverage on it on www.avforums.com most people running fires under their plasma are the plasma fires funnily enough.... and just use them as show rather than heating a room....
No pics atm of the trunking, left my digi camera at work too so if I remember tomorrow I'll take a pic and post it on here for you
No pics atm of the trunking, left my digi camera at work too so if I remember tomorrow I'll take a pic and post it on here for you
Heres our Pioneer 50" wall mounted. Didn't want to chase out the wall so used 2 X 22mm plumbing pipe cover sprayed gloss black to match the surround of the screen. This allowed the two cables to run inside and the centre speaker to be mounted to the front.


RobP


RobP
Originally Posted by RobP
Heres our Pioneer 50" wall mounted. Didn't want to chase out the wall so used 2 X 22mm plumbing pipe cover sprayed gloss black to match the surround of the screen. This allowed the two cables to run inside and the centre speaker to be mounted to the front.


RobP


RobP
Originally Posted by C2forWRX
now were talking. I see you have a denon av amp 3805 or similar and a bose am10/15. whats it like for cd's? im looking at denoin 1905 and bose am10 or 15 if the difference is that much better
The Denon AV Receivers are quite smooth so are usually very good with music.
But to be honest I have never heard a sub-sat system that is any good with music. Sub-sat systems are OK with movies if you can't have decent full range speakers but with music they never seem to capture a full stereo image.
Cheers
Lee
Well someone was questioning the height of mine earlier when in fact sit down the the eye level is perfectly in line with the bottom of the screen, perfect for me and the misses, nobody else ever grumbled too, doesnt look out of place. Much higher and I wouldnt like it... no head tilting going on when you sit back on the sofa it looks just right to the eye.
I was in Comet today, had a look at dlp's, plasmas and lcd tv's. I only saw 1 that I would buy on picture quality alone, and that was 8k
(50" samsung)
I think I'll stick to my panasonic tau 32" for now, as its given me 7 years of trouble free service so far. For movies, I'm still more than happy with my sony projector and 7' screen
my home cinema
the pictures need updating, as I've had a major change around, but the equipment is still essentially the same. Can't see any point in changing to hdtv just yet, don't like football, and as has already been pointed out, all of the movies on skys hdtv service will have been seen years ago
chris.
(50" samsung)I think I'll stick to my panasonic tau 32" for now, as its given me 7 years of trouble free service so far. For movies, I'm still more than happy with my sony projector and 7' screen

my home cinema
the pictures need updating, as I've had a major change around, but the equipment is still essentially the same. Can't see any point in changing to hdtv just yet, don't like football, and as has already been pointed out, all of the movies on skys hdtv service will have been seen years ago

chris.
My dad has just bought a Sharp 37" and i have to say i was really impressed with the picture quality, not too bad a price if you can live with a 37" as opposed to a 40"+
http://www.empiredirect.co.uk/conten...make~Sharp.htm
http://www.empiredirect.co.uk/conten...make~Sharp.htm
Originally Posted by cw42
I was in Comet today, had a look at dlp's, plasmas and lcd tv's. I only saw 1 that I would buy on picture quality alone, and that was 8k
(50" samsung)
(50" samsung)
Right, I know I'm coming in late, but I'm not sure the original question (LCD or plasma) was really answered.
People say "LCD as it's the future". Why? What's the future about it? What's better than plasma? Don't say re-gassing
, but power consumption, contrast ratio, reliability, repairability (don't laugh!)??
Secondly, what are considered the "best" LCD brands? I know Pioneer and Panasonic are pretty much considered the best plasmas. I was out at the weekend and saw a Samsung, LE40M61 LCD. I assume that's a 40in LCD. Up to now I've always been lusting after the Pioneer, but now I see I can get a 40in LCD for less than a 43in plasma. I looked on the website of our Comet equivalent, and there are a number of 40in LCDs, mainly Samsung and Sony. I understand that it's still up to me to consider picture quality, but if I wait a year, will it become clear that given the choice between the two, I "have" to get LCD as it's "the future"?
Thanks to anyone who can give me a half-sensible answer, if you understand the questions!
People say "LCD as it's the future". Why? What's the future about it? What's better than plasma? Don't say re-gassing
, but power consumption, contrast ratio, reliability, repairability (don't laugh!)??Secondly, what are considered the "best" LCD brands? I know Pioneer and Panasonic are pretty much considered the best plasmas. I was out at the weekend and saw a Samsung, LE40M61 LCD. I assume that's a 40in LCD. Up to now I've always been lusting after the Pioneer, but now I see I can get a 40in LCD for less than a 43in plasma. I looked on the website of our Comet equivalent, and there are a number of 40in LCDs, mainly Samsung and Sony. I understand that it's still up to me to consider picture quality, but if I wait a year, will it become clear that given the choice between the two, I "have" to get LCD as it's "the future"?
Thanks to anyone who can give me a half-sensible answer, if you understand the questions!
Well as far as reliable goes the modern plasmas are good for 60,000 hours, using it for 8hours a day (Id say thats more than average too) gives it a lifespan of 20 years.... if it last half of that you'd get your moneys worth IMO....
Contrast ratio doesnt mean much to be honest, the amount of tellys Ive seen boasting high ratios that are pants compared to some of the other stuff....
LCD was seen as better overall quality but expensive when it was first coming onto the market and at that time Plasmas were looking a little on the iffy side but as LCD has caught up with Plasmas in terms of size and price plasmas have increased their quality 10 times over and now, IMO there isnt really much of a difference and its more down to personal choice.
Now IIRC neither are the future, there is a new breed of technology on the verge of release, going back about 10months now I recall reading about the new style of flat tvs that are being developed, didnt take much notice at the time, been busy myself too be buying What HiFi and oter mags so not kept up with it all as much as Id like but ask around on the AV forums, they might be able to update you.
Contrast ratio doesnt mean much to be honest, the amount of tellys Ive seen boasting high ratios that are pants compared to some of the other stuff....
LCD was seen as better overall quality but expensive when it was first coming onto the market and at that time Plasmas were looking a little on the iffy side but as LCD has caught up with Plasmas in terms of size and price plasmas have increased their quality 10 times over and now, IMO there isnt really much of a difference and its more down to personal choice.
Now IIRC neither are the future, there is a new breed of technology on the verge of release, going back about 10months now I recall reading about the new style of flat tvs that are being developed, didnt take much notice at the time, been busy myself too be buying What HiFi and oter mags so not kept up with it all as much as Id like but ask around on the AV forums, they might be able to update you.
Hmmm i wouldnt get either, we have a wide screen thingy but we also have a projector and It is TOPS, we have painted the screen on the wall it doesnt look too bad as we have a huge picture up on wall whilst not using it, It is something 8 or 9 feet wide etc its like being at the cinema lol
I was against this when other half first mentioned it as I didnt want a screen on the wall but now its been done, I wouldnt change it, Its tops
Sorry thought i would mention it lol
Kaz
I was against this when other half first mentioned it as I didnt want a screen on the wall but now its been done, I wouldnt change it, Its tops
Sorry thought i would mention it lol
Kaz
The future is definately not Plasma.
Sony have announced they are pulling out of Plasma production as their Bravia LCD technology gathers pace and the new SXRD sets will be here soon.
Toshiba have also announced they will be pushing other technologies such as SED.
The only big home equipment players that are still pushing Plasma are Pioneer and Panasonic.
Don't read too much into contrast ratio's, a set with a very poor black level can still have a high contrast ratio but for 99% of home viewing a decent black level is king.
Home Cinema choice magazine carries out actual contrast ratio tests and manufacturers claims are often a long way off the actual results.
Same goes for maximum brightness.
If your going to spend a few thousand pounds on a TV get a proper demo under realistic conditions. Viewing a set under a a bank of flourescent lights in Comet is hardly going to give you an idea of what it will look like in a home environment.
Cheers
Lee
Sony have announced they are pulling out of Plasma production as their Bravia LCD technology gathers pace and the new SXRD sets will be here soon.
Toshiba have also announced they will be pushing other technologies such as SED.
The only big home equipment players that are still pushing Plasma are Pioneer and Panasonic.
Don't read too much into contrast ratio's, a set with a very poor black level can still have a high contrast ratio but for 99% of home viewing a decent black level is king.
Home Cinema choice magazine carries out actual contrast ratio tests and manufacturers claims are often a long way off the actual results.
Same goes for maximum brightness.
If your going to spend a few thousand pounds on a TV get a proper demo under realistic conditions. Viewing a set under a a bank of flourescent lights in Comet is hardly going to give you an idea of what it will look like in a home environment.
Cheers
Lee


