500bhp clasic
16 October 2005, 10:39 PM
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well their one up on the 6s so if running mildish mods then yes, 4 yr you slacking or what,! I passed my 4year whilst doing my 3rd!! good luck man.
Originally Posted by flat4_ire
sure im a 4th yr apprentice electrician dont be trying to get out if it that easy!! 
fecking builders! i use ngk7s in the sti type r, they the best to get u reckon?
fecking builders! i use ngk7s in the sti type r, they the best to get u reckon?
16 October 2005, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by recopish
well their one up on the 6s so if running mildish mods then yes, 4 yr you slacking or what,! I passed my 4year whilst doing my 3rd!! good luck man.
cant talk to these ENGLISH builders at all.. car is mildly modded i guess yeah, -equal length headers
-up-pipe
-downpipe
-straight thru centre with Blitz Nurspec s back box
-lightweight flywheel
-blitz induction
-competition clutch
-A'pexi PFC fitted and mapped here in Ireland by Andy F on 100RON fuel @1.35bar
rolling road is next week so i hope to see her up well over 300hp providing adequate cold air is present!!
16 October 2005, 10:53 PM
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So my man you need ngk7s, deffo, as for years, passing this and that ect , you need an old army freind to put you through on the 3rd year and the fouth at the same time , all aslong as you deffo can pass both, of which i could. then not a problemo makes sence ah.
Originally Posted by flat4_ire
u passed ur 4th yr whilst in 3rd???????? hahaa are u mad in the head or what son? thats like saying i hit 70mph in the car today before 60mph! its a 4 year apprenticeship so how in gods name could i do it in 3rd year?? you're obviously not a qualified tradesman! cant talk to these ENGLISH builders at all.. car is mildly modded i guess yeah,
-equal length headers
-up-pipe
-downpipe
-straight thru centre with Blitz Nurspec s back box
-lightweight flywheel
-blitz induction
-competition clutch
-A'pexi PFC fitted and mapped here in Ireland by Andy F on 100RON fuel @1.35bar
rolling road is next week so i hope to see her up well over 300hp providing adequate cold air is present!!
cant talk to these ENGLISH builders at all.. car is mildly modded i guess yeah, -equal length headers
-up-pipe
-downpipe
-straight thru centre with Blitz Nurspec s back box
-lightweight flywheel
-blitz induction
-competition clutch
-A'pexi PFC fitted and mapped here in Ireland by Andy F on 100RON fuel @1.35bar
rolling road is next week so i hope to see her up well over 300hp providing adequate cold air is present!!
16 October 2005, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by recopish
So my man you need ngk7s, deffo, as for years, passing this and that ect , you need an old army freind to put you through on the 3rd year and the fouth at the same time , all aslong as you deffo can pass both, of which i could. then not a problemo makes sence ah.
7 phases within 4 years ok:
1st phase-on the job
2nd phase-off the job(22 wks training centre exams etc)
3rd phase-on the job
4th phase-off the job(11 wks college exams etc)
5th phase-on the job
6th phase-off the job(11 wks final college exams .....which is where i am now)
7th phase-back on the job seeing out your time til your qualified! ahh now does that make sense to you ya mad eejit! im hitting the sack guys, up at 6am, the joys!
16 October 2005, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by recopish
to be sure to be sure, go dig a hole and burry that dirt>
flat4 did you hear of the two electricions trying to ring each other in thre phone box?
flat4 did you hear of the two electricions trying to ring each other in thre phone box?
16 October 2005, 11:01 PM
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Good night hunny, all the best, and keep up the good work im of to work, got some wheely bins to clean, lattas!
lol be good flat 4
lol be good flat 4
Originally Posted by flat4_ire
man u have lost me completely!! right im gonna give u the run down on apprenticeships in ireland anyway and im sure england is the same!!
7 phases within 4 years ok:
1st phase-on the job
2nd phase-off the job(22 wks training centre exams etc)
3rd phase-on the job
4th phase-off the job(11 wks college exams etc)
5th phase-on the job
6th phase-off the job(11 wks final college exams .....which is where i am now)
7th phase-back on the job seeing out your time til your qualified! ahh now does that make sense to you ya mad eejit! im hitting the sack guys, up at 6am, the joys!
7 phases within 4 years ok:
1st phase-on the job
2nd phase-off the job(22 wks training centre exams etc)
3rd phase-on the job
4th phase-off the job(11 wks college exams etc)
5th phase-on the job
6th phase-off the job(11 wks final college exams .....which is where i am now)
7th phase-back on the job seeing out your time til your qualified! ahh now does that make sense to you ya mad eejit! im hitting the sack guys, up at 6am, the joys!
16 October 2005, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by recopish
Good night hunny, all the best, and keep up the good work im of to work, got some wheely bins to clean, lattas! lol be good flat 4
lol be good flat 4
17 October 2005, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by flat4_ire
£1800 for the apexi pfc fitted and mapped is a rip off man, think most guys here know that not just me
17 October 2005, 11:12 AM
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Your not going to get 600bhp out of a gt30 imho.
I also dont think the spec will get a reliable 500hp.
David
I also dont think the spec will get a reliable 500hp.
David
17 October 2005, 01:25 PM
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I feel sorry for you mate...you come on this forum in the tech section to get some advice and all uv had so far is a bunch of guys either slating you or praising you.
Come on guys....those of you who are in the know...why dont any of you have the guts to write down a full spec list that WILL get him his 500BHP.
Put ur money where ur mouth is
I feel sorry for you mate...you come on this forum in the tech section to get some advice and all uv had so far is a bunch of guys either slating you or praising you.
Come on guys....those of you who are in the know...why dont any of you have the guts to write down a full spec list that WILL get him his 500BHP.
Put ur money where ur mouth is
17 October 2005, 02:28 PM
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Its a possibility that the guys that are making 500+ do not wish to impart their knowledge because it may be detrimental to their business.
Others maybe dont have the time.
Its a possibility that the guys that are making 500+ do not wish to impart their knowledge because it may be detrimental to their business.
Others maybe dont have the time.
17 October 2005, 04:59 PM
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Mate,
I think your bill @ 12k is rather optimistic. The HKS 2.2 stroker kit for the classic is nearly 4k alone, and that's without the con rods. (add in 600-800 quid more for H sections rods). I know, i've got one fitted.
Quality bit of kit, and should be bullet proof if put together correctly.
Good luck with the build.
Dave
I think your bill @ 12k is rather optimistic. The HKS 2.2 stroker kit for the classic is nearly 4k alone, and that's without the con rods. (add in 600-800 quid more for H sections rods). I know, i've got one fitted.
Quality bit of kit, and should be bullet proof if put together correctly.
Good luck with the build.
Dave
Originally Posted by al125
Bill looks to be about 12k plus API's 6 speed box.
That £1800 for a Power FC, fit and map must be wrong. I will ask them about that and see if they have made a mistake.
That £1800 for a Power FC, fit and map must be wrong. I will ask them about that and see if they have made a mistake.
17 October 2005, 10:38 PM
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I spoke to Dave @ DP today and he dose not know were the £1800 price is from and says the must be a mistake. TBH if you look round you will find the PFC cheaper than you can get it from DP but Dave told me this is because he gets hi Apexi stuff from the USA and not Japan were most get there’s from. I don’t know why this makes it dearer but it dose. As far as I know he is one of only a few that are authorized Apexi dealers. One thing that is well worth the money from Dave is the Map and im sure the are lots of peep that will tell you the same.
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The GT30R may not make almost 600bhp but 550bhp should be possible. This is not my opinion I am just passing on info from Grant @ AET Turbos who to a lot of peep is the TURBO DADDY. If you have any thoughts as to how to make a reliable 500bhp then I appreciate any help you think you may be able to give.
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Cheers mate, nice one
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That don't make sense to me mate. I won't pretend to know allot about tuning cars because I don't but I do know a bit about car audio. Now in my 6 or so years of fitting and selling car Audio some think became very apparent, The louder your car the more peep want to know what is in there, the more they know the more they want, the more they want the more I sell. Dose this make sense, surely the tuning business must be the same.
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It’s my fault for not saying but this car has already had money spent on it and some of the parts are already on. Im Glad that some one who knows just what some of these parts cost has posted. In total the car will have about 20k on engine alone. So you like the HKS stroker kit then? Any more info on pros or cons of the kit and what you run with it would be great. Cheers mate
(Be for some one feals the need to point it out i know im not the worlds best speller)
I spoke to Dave @ DP today and he dose not know were the £1800 price is from and says the must be a mistake. TBH if you look round you will find the PFC cheaper than you can get it from DP but Dave told me this is because he gets hi Apexi stuff from the USA and not Japan were most get there’s from. I don’t know why this makes it dearer but it dose. As far as I know he is one of only a few that are authorized Apexi dealers. One thing that is well worth the money from Dave is the Map and im sure the are lots of peep that will tell you the same.
David Wallis
The GT30R may not make almost 600bhp but 550bhp should be possible. This is not my opinion I am just passing on info from Grant @ AET Turbos who to a lot of peep is the TURBO DADDY. If you have any thoughts as to how to make a reliable 500bhp then I appreciate any help you think you may be able to give.
Joedesi
Cheers mate, nice one
P20SPD
That don't make sense to me mate. I won't pretend to know allot about tuning cars because I don't but I do know a bit about car audio. Now in my 6 or so years of fitting and selling car Audio some think became very apparent, The louder your car the more peep want to know what is in there, the more they know the more they want, the more they want the more I sell. Dose this make sense, surely the tuning business must be the same.
Daveo
It’s my fault for not saying but this car has already had money spent on it and some of the parts are already on. Im Glad that some one who knows just what some of these parts cost has posted. In total the car will have about 20k on engine alone. So you like the HKS stroker kit then? Any more info on pros or cons of the kit and what you run with it would be great. Cheers mate
(Be for some one feals the need to point it out i know im not the worlds best speller)
17 October 2005, 11:08 PM
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Can someone please state what the max power of the GT30R is - 500bhp tops? (on a non-exotic mixture of course)
Can someone please state what the max power of the GT30R is - 500bhp tops? (on a non-exotic mixture of course)
17 October 2005, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by al125
AET Turbos Tel 01924894171 ask for some one who knows about turbos becasue Grant must not
The site for your info is www.turbocalculator.com
17 October 2005, 11:25 PM
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May be i miss heared then, sorry if i got it wrong but i was shure he said with changeing the impeller and a larger exhaust houseing it would be in that region. We could use the GT35R but on a 2.2 i was lead to belive that it would have to much lag
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17 October 2005, 11:43 PM
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Steve,
To get 550bhp from a Subaru engine, out of a GT30R, you will need to wring it's neck, use either race fuel, or a good dose of methanol, or similar, and, or go to a very optomistic rolling road. A realistic 480-520bhp depending on engine/heads, etc'.
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To get 550bhp from a Subaru engine, out of a GT30R, you will need to wring it's neck, use either race fuel, or a good dose of methanol, or similar, and, or go to a very optomistic rolling road. A realistic 480-520bhp depending on engine/heads, etc'.
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17 October 2005, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by R19KET
Steve,
To get 550bhp from a Subaru engine, out of a GT30R, you will need to wring it's neck, use either race fuel, or a good dose of methanol, or similar, and, or go to a very optomistic rolling road. A realistic 480-520bhp depending on engine/heads, etc'.
Mark.
To get 550bhp from a Subaru engine, out of a GT30R, you will need to wring it's neck, use either race fuel, or a good dose of methanol, or similar, and, or go to a very optomistic rolling road. A realistic 480-520bhp depending on engine/heads, etc'.
Mark.
17 October 2005, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by al125
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That don't make sense to me mate. I won't pretend to know allot about tuning cars because I don't but I do know a bit about car audio. Now in my 6 or so years of fitting and selling car Audio some think became very apparent, The louder your car the more peep want to know what is in there, the more they know the more they want, the more they want the more I sell. Dose this make sense, surely the tuning business must be the same.
That don't make sense to me mate. I won't pretend to know allot about tuning cars because I don't but I do know a bit about car audio. Now in my 6 or so years of fitting and selling car Audio some think became very apparent, The louder your car the more peep want to know what is in there, the more they know the more they want, the more they want the more I sell. Dose this make sense, surely the tuning business must be the same.
If you have spent a lot of time and money coming up with a solution to your customers liking and that produces the results.. why come on here and list that spec for everyone else to see and more importantly for you to take to a company that are unable to come up with 'said' spec themselves?
If the company you take the car too is unsure and therefore you have ended up having to ask on here then surely the car is with the wrong company?
I like the reason for more expensive Apexi kit! that makes for a good reason to use them then.. they use a more expensive supplier for the same kit...
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18 October 2005, 12:12 AM
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Al125,
If you "customise" the GT30R, 550bhp is possible, but that's something else.
Generally speaking, you will find that most of the "stroker" kits, and as far as I know, this includes HKS, actually give about 2122cc.
If the whole engine is well thought out, stroked engines work very well, but big turbo's can be laggy on them. This is fine for drag, or track, but can be hard work on the road.
I wouldn't go too big on the exhaust housing, they tend to give a relatively small bhp increase, but are several 100rpm laggier than the smaller size.
Mark.
sorry if i got it wrong but i was shure he said with changeing the impeller and a larger exhaust houseing
Generally speaking, you will find that most of the "stroker" kits, and as far as I know, this includes HKS, actually give about 2122cc.
If the whole engine is well thought out, stroked engines work very well, but big turbo's can be laggy on them. This is fine for drag, or track, but can be hard work on the road.
I wouldn't go too big on the exhaust housing, they tend to give a relatively small bhp increase, but are several 100rpm laggier than the smaller size.
Mark.