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Old 07 October 2005, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Patt@firstime


Pics aren't working, can someone re-post them please?
There will be plenty of photos in the full article in Scooby Magazine.
Old 07 October 2005, 04:59 PM
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You need to change your location statement mate!
Old 07 October 2005, 05:28 PM
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Why does Mark need to change it? Andy hasn't topped the speed Mark acheived for the 1.25 mile run, yet...and he is using a Turbo Mark supplied
Old 07 October 2005, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by R19KET
Hope you don't mean me.......... I only got back home last night

Mark/Lateral.
No not you Mark, I caught one of my fish within 6 posts

Andy

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Old 07 October 2005, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim W
Why does Mark need to change it? Andy hasn't topped the speed Mark acheived for the 1.25 mile run, yet...and he is using a Turbo Mark supplied
Just to correct you Tim, Turbo Dynamics supplied, Mark arranged.

From the datalogs 200mph came up in 20 secs, 210 took a further 10 secs and it was still accelerating at 1mph/sec when I lifted off.

10secs at 200mph covers 0.55 miles so it would have been doing 200mph within 0.95 miles from the startline.

Andy
Old 07 October 2005, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim W
Why does Mark need to change it? Andy hasn't topped the speed Mark acheived for the 1.25 mile run, yet...and he is using a Turbo Mark supplied
Sorry I thought it was 20 mph quicker but apparently its 20 mph faster not quicker.
My bad

So can I ask how fast, Sorry quick did Mark get to 190?
And what are the rules on Quickest

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Old 07 October 2005, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
Just to correct you Tim, Turbo Dynamics supplied, Mark arranged.

From the datalogs 200mph came up in 20 secs, 210 took a further 10 secs and it was still accelerating at 1mph/sec when I lifted off.

10secs at 200mph covers 0.55 miles so it would have been doing 200mph within 0.95 miles from the startline.

Andy
Assuming it takes 10 seconds to do the 1/4 mile, that leaves you 10 seconds to travel 0.7 miles (to get to 200mph in 0.95 miles), which requires an average speed of 252mph.

Your sums don't add up Andy.

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Old 07 October 2005, 10:19 PM
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I don't take as long as 10 secs to do a 1/4 though
Old 07 October 2005, 10:44 PM
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Old 07 October 2005, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
I don't take as long as 10 secs to do a 1/4 though
just ask his lass well done andy
Old 07 October 2005, 11:00 PM
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Are you saying you have a sub 7 second car Andy? Because that's what you would need for your numbers to add up.

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Old 07 October 2005, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95


What spec is the car? Ive looked at previous posts and cant find any mention?

its one of andy's hybrid td04's and ported headers
Old 07 October 2005, 11:14 PM
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Sub 7 second cars run 200 in the 1/4 so I don't think so ! Is the battery going flat in your calculator
Old 07 October 2005, 11:24 PM
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How long does it take to get to 210.2mph?
Old 07 October 2005, 11:28 PM
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30 secs
Old 07 October 2005, 11:29 PM
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my calculator is fine, I think the problem is with your datalogs and maths.

9 second flat 1/4, leaving 11 seconds to do the next 0.7 miles needs 229mph average speed to do so
8 second flat 1/4 mile leaving 12 seconds to do the next 0.7 miles needs 210mph average speed

Given that you claim 200mph after 20 seconds, the above figures suggest your datalog results are flawed.

Paul
Old 07 October 2005, 11:31 PM
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Who's had a drink??
Old 07 October 2005, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by alanjack
Who's had a drink??
You?
Old 07 October 2005, 11:34 PM
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Surely if he's done a 1/4 mile in uder 10 secs at 150+ terminal, then 200 in 20 secs is easily do-able...????
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Old 07 October 2005, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RON
Surely if he's done a 1/4 mile in uder 10 secs at 150+ terminal, then 200 in 20 secs is easily do-able...????
Yes it is, that's not what I am doubting. The problem is with the distances, I am actually suggesting that Andy's car needs to reach 200mph SOONER than 0.95 miles to put the speeds in the lsat 0.7 of a mile into the realm of reality.

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My datalogs tied up with the speed traps on all 3 runs (within 0.5mph) so 200mph in 20 seconds is not in any doubt. I did only guestimate crudely the distance this occurred at as this is not on my datalog.
You tell me, how far down the track did it achieve 200mph

Andy

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Old 07 October 2005, 11:51 PM
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simulation/guestimate around 0.85 miles, accurate to around 0.02 of a mile based on the range of power or drag estimates I use. Projected 1/4 mile time was 9.77@148.5 mph based on 1.1 coeff of friction.

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Old 07 October 2005, 11:53 PM
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What was the estimated power on that sim ? Which sim do you use ?

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Old 08 October 2005, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Zen Performance
simulation/guestimate around 0.85 miles, accurate to around 0.02 of a mile based on the range of power or drag estimates I use. Projected 1/4 mile time was 9.77@148.5 mph based on 1.1 coeff of friction.

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This has got far to ******** for me....... sorry, technicle....
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Which sim indeed!

"engine" torque at wheels* looked like this, optimistic low down due to turbo but didn't worry as it's never below 4500 except when launch which is traction and not power limited.

RPM ftlb
3250 250
3500 300
3750 300
4000 360
4250 400
4500 410
4750 420
5000 430
5250 440
5500 450
5750 460
6000 470
6250 470
6500 460
7000 450
7250 440
7500 430
7750 420
8000 400
8500 370

*Expressed as equivalent torque!

Paul

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Old 08 October 2005, 09:09 AM
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I'd just like to say that what you've done in the last few months is unbelievable Andy for someone that has learned his trade on his own without the backing of major companies and the expertise which goes with them.
This makes it all the more awe inspiring in what you've achieved. Well done!

Maybe it's just me, but it's quite difficult to comprehend how quick your car really is without experiencing it in the flesh, but with the figures you've obtained so far, are you not scared a little?(just a teensy bit? )

I mean look at what you've got. A car which was designed, when? in the '70's? a car with no safety cage? etc.
Surely you must be looking into aerodynamics (under floor) to continue running at these speeds or higher?
Gaffa tape over lights, grilles, windows etc.. a bit Heath Robinson. lol

What would you like to look into now with where you're going with Subaru's?

Rabbling on.. just concerned on the safety aspect now. It's serious s*it you're doing Buster Gonad!! but big respect!
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Originally Posted by AlanG
Surely you must be looking into aerodynamics (under floor) to continue running at these speeds or higher?
Nail hit squarely on head I suspect.

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Old 08 October 2005, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
What was the estimated power on that sim ? Which sim do you use ?

Andy
Andy, It dose not matter what "simulation" he used.


You did it in the real world with real results. Enough said


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