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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo
Sky reporting the same thing.

That doesn't make him innocent though.
The original post I responded to was:

Shot man NOT connected to bombings
If you're not connected then you're innocent, hence asking for the clicky and the statment that killing an innocent man would have some pretty serious repercussions.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fatscoobyfella
Why not???
We DEFINITELY know you're a racist after the thread you started a couple of nights ago. Get a life
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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Im surprised that they could recognise/anyone shot five times in the head with a 9mm round.....

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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo
Why?

the news reports say uniformed and plain clothes cops.

Bombs have gone off. The city is on high alert.

You run, you get shot. Pretty straightforward really.
I believe the fare dodger was "Fined with Extreme Prejudice"

Stoopid git must have been very very VERY thick if he knew that he was being challenged by the feds and still chose to run.

My take is that he was probably a peripheral member of a group with intent to cause disruption in some way.

He gambled that he wouldn't get shot cos he wasn't ACTUALLY carrying any explosives, just thought he'd tie up resources by getting a few feds to chase him, but they wouldn't shoot him, oh no sir!!

/Bob Monkhouse Klaxon On

Ehhh huuurrgggh

/Bob Monkhouse Klaxon Off

Wrong !!!!

Won't make that mistake again Sonny Jim

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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
The original post I responded to was:



If you're not connected then you're innocent, hence asking for the clicky and the statment that killing an innocent man would have some pretty serious repercussions.
I doubt its that simple Olly.

My reading is that he's not connected in so far as he's not one of the 4.

Doesn't make him innocent.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 05:46 PM
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keep well away he's gone to get his rucksack
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off where?..
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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So again, like yesterday, we were fed breadcrumbs and still don't have a clue as to what really happened.

Police also states that, as with any incident which involves shooting, there will be a full investigation, and no details will be disclosed until that investigation is well over.

So we can speculate whether he just had a walkman in his hands or not until we are blue in the face.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by moses
but mate how can the voice of moses be the voice of muslims, i dont think anyone thinks the voice and act of the chavs represent the white community it will be fecked up if we thought that anyway

im totally different to asif and other muslims here, their nice and humble people and levelheaded, im nice and humble too but not levelheaded

im all passion baby they call me the passion fruit
LOL at Passion Fruit!

And thanks for the compliment.

One word of advice, if I may, just chill on use of the word Whitey, unless I bothered to read your explanation of it, I would think exactly what some of the other guys are thinking.

As someone else said, just stick to calling bigots bigots etc. I know you like to use the same means to respond to people that they are using on you, thats fine and understandable.

If you find something offensive, just use the RTM button and try to stay calm, just a suggestion.

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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooby-doo97
We DEFINITELY know you're a racist after the thread you started a couple of nights ago. Get a life
Oh so it was him was it? Not too much of a surprise really.

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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AsifScoob
Oh so it was him was it? Not too much of a surprise really.
Asif
Which is a downside of deleting threads (although I do understand why). OTOH, I think he was drunk as a kite, which is not an excuse of course.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AsifScoob
LOL at Passion Fruit!

And thanks for the compliment.

One word of advice, if I may, just chill on use of the word Whitey, unless I bothered to read your explanation of it, I would think exactly what some of the other guys are thinking.

As someone else said, just stick to calling bigots bigots etc. I know you like to use the same means to respond to people that they are using on you, thats fine and understandable.

If you find something offensive, just use the RTM button and try to stay calm, just a suggestion.

Asif


your welcome bros and thanks for the advice bros if i call them bigots they wont know how it feels like to be called a muslim terrorist or all muslims r troublemakers or terrorists, pakis this or that, so if i give them their own medicine they should be able to stomach it like we do, but they cant, their weak not as strong as us.

and go blind to what they say and get offended by what we say and like i said bros whitey is not the white race its something else

and im gonna lay low for a few days so u guys keep on talking and have nice discussions

cheers

im aff to my falconry club
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by moses
and go blind to what they say and get offended by what we say and like i said bros whitey is not the white race its something else
Try to find a more proper term then
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RedFive
Try to find a more proper term then

will do how about milkybar kids
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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before i leave

here r my babies

my fave birds of prey

a goshawk



and a scottish peregrine




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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
During the second world, after Germany had occupied France, were the "resistence" terrorists? No, they were the resistance. I am white, British, liberal, male who would stand and fight for this country if called upon. I just think we need to remember that when you start invading coutries, they're inclined to fight back.

Picture this: President Khatami of Iran occupies GB. British lads get pissed off, contact ex-pats in Iran, Iran gets bombed a bit, makes Khatami rethink their occupation of our land, bombers are heroes.

Seriously, what the **** did you expect?
Oops, I missed this one.

The difference is, as I've been keen to point out, that during WWII the democratic majority were opposed to what Hitler was doing. The world in general thought it was a bad thing and they fought back to maintain the will of the majority of people in the world. History would appear to support this position. The terrorists, however, who are attacking London might number a few hundred, or a few thousand, but they are exerting infulence far beyond their numbers just because this is the purpose of terrorism and they have played the game very well. So, this situation is very different from special forces or resistance acting on behalf of the majority of the world population, here we have representitives of a very few trying to force their will upon the majority and trying to make themselves appear more important than they actually are.

The situation where Iran invades GB is an interesting one but, again, I would imagine that the democratic majority on earth would oppose that and would be willing to engage in a struggle to reinstate the status quo for the benefit of all.

It must also come down to motivation, and this is a much, much more complex area, in the sense that many terrorist organisations are, in effect, criminal organisations seeking income and control. In theory a country acting for the good of a population does not seek benefit from its actions but carries out those actions to assist a population in trouble and to restore "world order." The UK might argue that this is the case in Iraq for example, the war was costly with little potential for a return. This is very different from those controlling terrorist acts though it must be said that the people actually carrying out the acts may indeed believe themselves to be "freedom fighters" acting for their cause.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by moses
will do how about milkybar kids
Did you know that in The Netherlands, Muslims who are too "kind" to the natives are called "Bounty's" ? Colored on the outside, but all white within. A new name for Uncle Tom's

Anyway, **** off to your posh country club
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RedFive
Did you know that in The Netherlands, Muslims who are too "kind" to the natives are called "Bounty's" ? Colored on the outside, but all white within. A new name for Uncle Tom's

Anyway, **** off to your posh country club


lol so true in the uk mate we call them coconuts brown from the outside and white in the inside

lol what posh country club all people like u and me mate

its a club on the site and every few weeks i go for training


i luv falconry
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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Go moses, go

lo m8 btw
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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jye my bros haha where the **** did u vanish , hows things in rainy ayrshire, nice to see u about bros, has been a long time u have a blessed weekend
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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Cheers m8, u2. I've been here and there, and sunny Ayrshire is doin just fine, heh

Still waiting for that dinner invite btw
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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Cheers m8, u2. I've been here and there, and sunny Ayrshire is doin just fine, heh

Still waiting for that dinner invite btw

bros i was busy in between doing up the house and trying to get this new shop, house was a mess bros

let me get this new shop sorted i promise u are welcome anytime
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 07:20 PM
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pm man
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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I bet if the guy was wearing one of these, he might not have been shot!

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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by hedgehog
Oops, I missed this one.

The difference is, as I've been keen to point out, that during WWII the democratic majority were opposed to what Hitler was doing. The world in general thought it was a bad thing and they fought back to maintain the will of the majority of people in the world. History would appear to support this position. The terrorists, however, who are attacking London might number a few hundred, or a few thousand, but they are exerting infulence far beyond their numbers just because this is the purpose of terrorism and they have played the game very well. So, this situation is very different from special forces or resistance acting on behalf of the majority of the world population, here we have representitives of a very few trying to force their will upon the majority and trying to make themselves appear more important than they actually are.

The situation where Iran invades GB is an interesting one but, again, I would imagine that the democratic majority on earth would oppose that and would be willing to engage in a struggle to reinstate the status quo for the benefit of all.

It must also come down to motivation, and this is a much, much more complex area, in the sense that many terrorist organisations are, in effect, criminal organisations seeking income and control. In theory a country acting for the good of a population does not seek benefit from its actions but carries out those actions to assist a population in trouble and to restore "world order." The UK might argue that this is the case in Iraq for example, the war was costly with little potential for a return. This is very different from those controlling terrorist acts though it must be said that the people actually carrying out the acts may indeed believe themselves to be "freedom fighters" acting for their cause.
Interesting and well written response - thanks Hedgehog
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ChristianR
I bet if the guy was wearing one of these, he might not have been shot!


lol thats a nice one bombers will still use it coz people will think they aint carrying a bomb
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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The other angle to take on this is that if some country invaded the UK I would be targetting their military personnel, not innocent civilains in their home country. To me this is a fundamental difference between what some would refer to as freedom fighter compared to terrorists. I think if you go back to WWII you will find the French resistance were targetting the military, not going into Germany and blowing up civilians. (I may be wrong on this as i'm no Historian but don't think I am)

dear bravo tell that to oor government they wanted osama and saddam dead

and they blow up the water resources and power stations in iraq and slaughter civilians
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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and to add but the oil reserves and wells were in tact and protected and no smart bombs managed to reach them
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
But don't for one minute think that anti-west sentiments are limited to a handful of extremists.
I never said they were.....

However - BOMBING public plces, injuring/killing innocent people IS ENTIREY the work of extremists. The actions define those responsible as extreme.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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anyone watch sky news at 9 pm i missed 15 mins of it while coming home from work

they r sure trying to win the ratings war, all about business hey

they had a programme inside islam and called alot of muslims and a few journalists and muslim leaders plus the labour mp khalid mahmood got a right slagging and they ripped him apart, see he has his head stuck up blairs *** it was nice to see him getting it
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