Notices
Non Scooby Related Anything Non-Scooby related

'el cheapo call centre peasant ****e

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 23 June 2005, 08:16 PM
  #31  
SWRTWannabe
Scooby Regular
 
SWRTWannabe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 4,227
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

From The Sun...
"Harvey, who paid a total of 5,000 US dollars (£2,750) for the information and was asked for another £275 to be sent later, was told details usually cost £4.25 but he was getting a special deal."

So, normal price £4.25, "special deal", £3025.

Either there's a typo or they well and truly saw him coming

Last edited by SWRTWannabe; 23 June 2005 at 08:18 PM.
Old 23 June 2005, 08:25 PM
  #32  
Jap2Scrap
Scooby Regular
 
Jap2Scrap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,486
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by SWRTWannabe
From The Sun...
"Harvey, who paid a total of 5,000 US dollars (£2,750) for the information and was asked for another £275 to be sent later, was told details usually cost £4.25 but he was getting a special deal."

So, normal price £4.25, "special deal", £3025.

Either there's a typo or they well and truly saw him coming
That was for details on 1000 people, not each!
Old 23 June 2005, 11:11 PM
  #33  
workshy_fopp
Scooby Regular
 
workshy_fopp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 757
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TheBigMan
Typical.

To anyone on here that thinks that pikey companies putting call centres in the depths of world depravity.....
Depths of world depravity? Where would that be, Slough maybe?
Old 24 June 2005, 09:43 AM
  #34  
TheBigMan
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
TheBigMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,334
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thumbs down

Originally Posted by Cyberevo
Your problem is that you are a racist, I can tell from reading this post. Firstly the call cantres are not located in Bangladesh, they are located in India (now your probably going to say, 'well there all the fu**** same' just like your parents before you and there parents before them said'). Secondly it's not the poor guy in the call centre that is to blame, it is the inept western world country that has invested poorly into the call centres.

The people that work in these call centres are very well educated, just not in the 'british way'.
With all due respect (though very little needed) you can stick your comment up your ****.

I am not a racist as you so kindly "stated", however I do see the issues with certain issues relating to race. The difference between me and certain others is that I am not afraid to discuss these points.

I have NO ISSUE with the employees at the foreign call centre. Atleast they are prepared to work which is more than can be said for much of the dregs (white dregs) in this country.

My issue is with companies using these overseas call centres, paying less than a like location in the UK all to save a few £'s - with, in my personal experience, detriment to customer service.

At no point have I made ANY racist slur on the thread.

Yes, I used Bangladesh as an example. So, if I 'd have used Pakistan as an example you would have probably had a go and said "why not Bangladesh". So, just for you I will merely say "Asian" to satisfy your unnecessarily politically correct ego.

Next time you make comments, think, think again and think one last time before posting tripe. We've all posted things we later regret but in this case personal insults are utterly unjust.


As a footnote - do NOT make comments about mine, or anybody elses parents on this or any other thread. *****.

You have wound me up, congratulations - pat yourself on the back.

Last edited by TheBigMan; 24 June 2005 at 09:48 AM.
Old 24 June 2005, 09:45 AM
  #35  
TheBigMan
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
TheBigMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,334
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by workshy_fopp
Depths of world depravity? Where would that be, Slough maybe?
Or Hemel Hempstead!!
Old 24 June 2005, 09:54 AM
  #36  
OllyK
Scooby Regular
 
OllyK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 12,304
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TheBigMan
I went with Elephant (insurance), needed to talk to someone regarding my policy.

Wasted 25 mins, going around in circles being asked questions that were obviously from a script. I recall answering the same question on multiple occasions. All that was needed was a degree of common sense and a fundamental grasp of the English language. BOTH, I'm afraid were conspicuous by their absence.

Insurance cancelled, went to reputable company - no problems.

DISCLAIMER - My problem is with the companies, not the foreign staff. At least they want to work which is better than many lazy bludgers in this country.
When did they outsource - when I bought my insurance with them 12 months or so ago the call centre I spoke to was in the UK, the guy on the phone was excellent, very switched on and helpful.
Old 24 June 2005, 09:58 AM
  #37  
OllyK
Scooby Regular
 
OllyK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 12,304
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by gsm1
You people must be stupid if you can't understand a call operator in India. I've never had any trouble understanding them. Most UK call centres I've spoken to are situated in Scotland or Northern Ireland. I've had no trouble with them either but if you can undersand their accents any better then there must be something wrong with you.
As for English, those operators in India would p*ss all over you when it came to proper English and most are graduates. It's hilarious when I see the SN users who can't even string a sentence together properly in English complain about others.
My 1 experience to date with an Indian call centre was with Norwich Union. I was changing my insurance as they were not competetive when it came to renewall time. I needed confirmation of my no claims bonus and so rang to get a letter sent out.

The person in the Asian call centre didn't understand "letter confirming no claim discount" and kept saying they would post out replacement cover documents. A week later I had 5 copies (each sent separately) of my insurance cover documents and no letter about my no claims.
Old 24 June 2005, 09:59 AM
  #38  
TheBigMan
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
TheBigMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,334
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by OllyK
When did they outsource - when I bought my insurance with them 12 months or so ago the call centre I spoke to was in the UK, the guy on the phone was excellent, very switched on and helpful.
Same situation as me. When I took out my insurance over the web (with Elephant) I had a very friendly person call me a few days later asking if I had received all my documents and if they could help further.

When i needed to change my policy, it was a different matter. My call was transferred half way around the globe to somebody who was poor at speaking English (Cyberevo - it's not there fault mate). They were reading from a script, anything I said that didn't have a pre-written answer was met with long pauses and me repeating myself over and over.

Cyberevo - I suspect it was as annoying/frustrating to the guy working there as it was for me.

Subsequently I couldn't change what I needed to change which was simply less mileage and adding a second driver.

If foreign call centres work, then ok. However in my own experience it's about as useful as a 1 legged duck trying to bury a turd on a frozen pond.

Last edited by TheBigMan; 24 June 2005 at 10:02 AM.
Old 24 June 2005, 10:00 AM
  #39  
TheBigMan
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
TheBigMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,334
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by OllyK
My 1 experience to date with an Indian call centre was with Norwich Union. I was changing my insurance as they were not competetive when it came to renewall time. I needed confirmation of my no claims bonus and so rang to get a letter sent out.

The person in the Asian call centre didn't understand "letter confirming no claim discount" and kept saying they would post out replacement cover documents. A week later I had 5 copies (each sent separately) of my insurance cover documents and no letter about my no claims.
Steady Olly - you're nudging the realms of Klu Klux membership with wild statements like that!!!

With regards to your experience, that sounds about right. That is my entire point.
Old 24 June 2005, 10:02 AM
  #40  
OllyK
Scooby Regular
 
OllyK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 12,304
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Cyberevo
You ever spoken to Sky in their Scotish office recently? talk about a bad attitude problem. Words like 'depths of world depravity' really make you look like a ****.
Yup - never had a problem with Sky, always had very good service. NTL on the other hand was 50:50, either crap or excellent, never seemed to be any middle ground.
Old 24 June 2005, 10:04 AM
  #41  
TheBigMan
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
TheBigMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,334
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Final comment to Cyberevo: "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt".

I bid you farewell.
Old 24 June 2005, 10:27 AM
  #42  
Mick
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (1)
 
Mick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 1998
Posts: 2,655
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Unhappy

Originally Posted by OllyK
My 1 experience to date with an Indian call centre was with Norwich Union. I was changing my insurance as they were not competetive when it came to renewall time. I needed confirmation of my no claims bonus and so rang to get a letter sent out.

The person in the Asian call centre didn't understand "letter confirming no claim discount" and kept saying they would post out replacement cover documents. A week later I had 5 copies (each sent separately) of my insurance cover documents and no letter about my no claims.
I had exactly the same sort of experience with NUD. Ended up being transfered to the 'technical department' - I could understand them even less! I ended up politely telling them that I was going to put the phone down as I couldn't understand what they were saying - I do hope those calls are recorded!

Managed to get 1 car away from NU with a massively cheaper quote elsewhere... But I'm stuck with the Scoob - they are about £350 cheaper than the next cheapest quote I could get - The website is quite good though - you can get alot done through that!
Another thing I thought of is to phone the quoteline (NOT RENEWAL!) as for new quotes (surprise, surprise ) it seems to be worth paying somebody with a bit of ability and UK language skills... - not tried it yet though.

Mick
Old 24 June 2005, 10:31 AM
  #43  
TheBigMan
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
TheBigMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,334
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I think a good conclusion is the following.

SALES - UK based call centres.

(now they have your custom)

AFTERSALES - Foreign based, on hold for many mnutes, try to be helpful but language barrier is an issue.


Hardly rocket sceince is it.

Quote from Orange adverts.....**** I 've forgot, somehting about not forgetting cubs when new ones are born. lol
Old 24 June 2005, 12:47 PM
  #44  
Stueyb
Scooby Regular
 
Stueyb's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 1,893
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Interesting thought though, do these banks not have a duty of care over our information and such. If they have, they should be brought to account and heavily done over. They can get rid of the call centres in india and my overdraught at the same time as a sorry

Last edited by Stueyb; 24 June 2005 at 12:56 PM.
Old 24 June 2005, 12:54 PM
  #45  
Bottomfeeder
Scooby Regular
 
Bottomfeeder's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Usually w**king from home
Posts: 7,047
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

People have such short memories.
Anyone else remember when you phoned you bank branch directly? Then we had call centers in the UK, then we had call centers in the third world...........Now all of a sudden we are being urged to swap/move banks because they have had the fantastically unique and original idea of having a call center in the UK.........

Before you know it someone else will have the spectacular idea of having account managers 'in branch'




Huge fukcing circle anyone?


Pisses me off
Old 24 June 2005, 12:58 PM
  #46  
TheBigMan
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
TheBigMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,334
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Bottomfeeder
People have such short memories.
Anyone else remember when you phoned you bank branch directly? Then we had call centers in the UK, then we had call centers in the third world...........Now all of a sudden we are being urged to swap/move banks because they have had the fantastically unique and original idea of having a call center in the UK.........

Before you know it someone else will have the spectacular idea of having account managers 'in branch'




Huge fukcing circle anyone?


Pisses me off
Yeah agree there. I think NatWest saying "all UK call centres" is there admittance that the foreign call center thing did not work. It suggests a penny pinching company that is prepared to compromise quality for cost.

I wouldn't buy a Ferrari with nankang tyres on it.....
Old 24 June 2005, 01:00 PM
  #47  
Jap2Scrap
Scooby Regular
 
Jap2Scrap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,486
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TheBigMan
Yeah agree there. I think NatWest saying "all UK call centres" is there admittance that the foreign call center thing did not work. It suggests a penny pinching company that is prepared to compromise quality for cost.

I wouldn't buy a Ferrari with nankang tyres on it.....
I would if it was cheap enough.
Old 24 June 2005, 01:10 PM
  #48  
TheBigMan
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
TheBigMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,334
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
I would if it was cheap enough.
Good point....
Old 24 June 2005, 07:06 PM
  #49  
Mick
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (1)
 
Mick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 1998
Posts: 2,655
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Thumbs up

I can still call my bank direct 'Royal Bank of Scotland' - never had a call centre as far as I know...


Mick
Old 24 June 2005, 07:08 PM
  #50  
Mick
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (1)
 
Mick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 1998
Posts: 2,655
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Lightbulb

Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
I would if it was cheap enough.
BUT - the very first thing you do would be, before even taking it for a test drive... Take the useless tyres OFF!

Mick
Old 24 June 2005, 07:52 PM
  #51  
Dracoro
Scooby Regular
 
Dracoro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: A powerslide near you
Posts: 10,261
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

run on the rims?
Old 24 June 2005, 09:59 PM
  #52  
Soulgirl
Scooby Regular
 
Soulgirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Here!
Posts: 5,145
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I have to agree. When I call to make enquires regarding my British service I fully expect to be 'serviced' in a like minded way in a language I understand.

Please, do not for one moment accuse me of being racist but I do not expect to talk to India about my British net connection.

I don't understand them, they certainly don't understand my net connection and they even have trouble reading from their script cards.

These business' might be saving millions of pounds but it doesn't give us, the customer base, confidence in the delivery of their product.

I'm sure that these foreign nationals would have complaint against their own providers if British peeps were employed to answer their helpdesks
Old 25 June 2005, 12:09 AM
  #53  
logiclee
Scooby Regular
 
logiclee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Notts, UK
Posts: 4,935
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'm seriously thinking of moving all my TSB accounts to NatWest. I've been with TSB for twenty years for my main accounts but I've had to use the call centre a few times recently and it's so frustrating.

I'll admit I had real problems understanding one bloke and I work with a Geordie and a Scot.
My problem was with balance transfers to Credit Cards and they didn't have a clue, even when my call was bumped up to the supervisor they said they didn't understand what I wanted.

Total ****e situation if you ask me.

Lee
Old 25 June 2005, 02:22 AM
  #54  
jods
Scooby Senior
 
jods's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 6,645
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Exclamation

Originally Posted by logiclee
I'm seriously thinking of moving all my TSB accounts to NatWest. I've been with TSB for twenty years for my main accounts but I've had to use the call centre a few times recently and it's so frustrating.

I'll admit I had real problems understanding one bloke and I work with a Geordie and a Scot.
My problem was with balance transfers to Credit Cards and they didn't have a clue, even when my call was bumped up to the supervisor they said they didn't understand what I wanted.

Total ****e situation if you ask me.

Lee
Barkleys was one of the first to sack English People and transfer work overseas.

It would be sweet, sweet, sweet, justice if everyone now at risk of losing their livelihood took out a "protected" CC account with them.

Then claim on it !!!
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
KAS35RSTI
Subaru
27
04 November 2021 07:12 PM
Benji554
Wanted
3
14 June 2016 11:19 PM
Abx
Subaru
22
09 January 2016 05:42 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
28
28 December 2015 11:07 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
12
18 November 2015 07:03 AM



Quick Reply: 'el cheapo call centre peasant ****e



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:30 PM.