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Old 13 May 2005, 07:35 PM
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A lot of the blame lies with the truck being overtaken. Should slow a bit more to let the other past.
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Originally Posted by S.B.
Someone tried that with me, i just went straight into the back of them.

I was the one laughing
Pratt! Are you that bad a driver - or did you do it on purpose?

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If that had happened to me, I'd be the one sueing, and laughing
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My dad says a motorbike test is the hardest test he has ever done also he tows a caravan behind a landcruiser and reverses it around a massive campsite with centimeter gaps to spare i agree and i know because i did a motorcycle test.
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the caravan is 26 ft long.
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the car is 16 ft long
Old 14 May 2005, 04:35 AM
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Brought this up a while ago and got a similar response

BTW NewLabour - re-read some of your posts and stop contradiciting yourself
Old 14 May 2005, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by New To Scoob
Brought this up a while ago and got a similar response

BTW NewLabour - re-read some of your posts and stop contradiciting yourself
Where are the contradictions? Perhaps you should re-read them?
Old 14 May 2005, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ScooByer Trade
My dad says a motorbike test is the hardest test he has ever done also he tows a caravan behind a landcruiser and reverses it around a massive campsite with centimeter gaps to spare i agree and i know because i did a motorcycle test.
HGV test is or at least used to be much harder than a bike test.
I know as Ive done both.

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Originally Posted by ScooByer Trade
the caravan is 26 ft long.
Max length of a caravan in UK is 7M or just under 23 ft.


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Old 14 May 2005, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by NewLabour

You can get 30K working in a supermarket
Very ,very few supermarkets jobs achieve a salary of 30K

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Old 14 May 2005, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
I confess, 'twas me in the Benz

And yes, revenge was indeed sweet, the flashing lights and blaring horn from the leading wagon driver just added to the sweetness
You will do that once to often

pissed off agency driver + ******** in a Merc = you in a ditch
Old 14 May 2005, 10:40 AM
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Being a courier makes you do mad things - braketesting a lorry on a motorbike

Anyhow, to cut long story short, Highway Code 144 ( Click Here ) states

144: Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.
& more importantly for HGV

145: Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass.
QED
Old 14 May 2005, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by kbsub
You will do that once to often

pissed off agency driver + ******** in a Merc = you in a ditch
kbsub - are you saying you agree that trucks spending 5 miles at 40 mph 'overtaking' is OK and that for someone following them to be seething after that event is completely unexpected

It's drivers like you that help to give truckers such a bad name!

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Old 14 May 2005, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Mick
kbsub - are you saying you agree that trucks spending 5 miles at 40 mph 'overtaking' is OK and that for someone following them to be seething after that event is completely unexpected

It's drivers like you that help to give truckers such a bad name!

Mick
No i dont agree with HGV hogging the outside lane its up to the truck being overtaken to let the other one in , but sooner or later pulling stunts like that he is gonna come a cropper big style
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I think it might be useful to reflect that for the most part the complaints aired here stem from the fact that you are discussing vehicles that are fitted with a speed limiter. By the nature of these devices there will be small differences between them and, in turn, this will allow some vehicles to travel slightly faster than others.

In the near future your car is going to be fitted with a similar device that wll act to limit your speed. However, its operation will not be as simple or predictable as limiting you to 56mph on the motorway. You will also find your car slowing down, almost randomly, for "dangerous" sections of road or even in wet weather. The target of the greens and anti-car lobby is to limit all vehicles to 40mph and, as already pointed out, they are using the 40mph HGV limit on single carriageways to enforce this limit upon private motorists by stealth.

People in green houses really should not throw stones and while you may not think you are in the green house yet you are actually beyond the point of making an escape.

So, watch the HGV drivers closely, they are demonstrating the use of techniques you are going to be needing yourself in the very near future.
Old 14 May 2005, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Mick
kbsub - are you saying you agree that trucks spending 5 miles at 40 mph 'overtaking' is OK and that for someone following them to be seething after that event is completely unexpected

It's drivers like you that help to give truckers such a bad name!

Mick
And you condoning such acts makes you ?
Old 14 May 2005, 11:00 AM
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now if we had a government who actually thought about transport policy, the follwing two laws would be imnplemented..

on dual carrageways, no overtaking for artics... and they must occupoy the inside lane at all times, the outer lane being a overtaking / car lane...

and turning right from the left hand lane on a roundabout,,,

what WAN*KER in power hasnt yet seen you bloody dangerous that is...

if F*CkIN easy two lanes... left lane = straight on or left.. Right lane= straight on or right

three lanes left lane left only. middle lane straight on right lane straight on or right..

solves all the stupid numptys who learnt to drive with red flags from causing mayhem on roundabouts..


oh f*ck it NL policy, if its simple and could save lives lets not do it and waste millions on cameras to do the same job!!


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Old 14 May 2005, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mart360
and turning right from the left hand lane on a roundabout,,,

what WAN*KER in power hasnt yet seen you bloody dangerous that is...
Not that simple in an arctic where the trailer will swing wide - hence why the lorry goes wide.

There should be training in both lorry & motorbike activities in the driving test. Would save a lot of stupid numpties driving up the right-hand side of a lorry, who is clearly signalling right, albeit in the left lane and then having to brake when the trailer swings into their lane.

A little more patience and tolerance to all road users from all road users would be beneficial these days.

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Old 14 May 2005, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by kbsub
And you condoning such acts makes you ?
ksub - yup good point. - Hadn't thought of it like that!

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Old 14 May 2005, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mart360
now if we had a government who actually thought about transport policy, the follwing two laws would be imnplemented..

on dual carrageways, no overtaking for artics... and they must occupoy the inside lane at all times, the outer lane being a overtaking / car lane...

and turning right from the left hand lane on a roundabout,,,

what WAN*KER in power hasnt yet seen you bloody dangerous that is...

if F*CkIN easy two lanes... left lane = straight on or left.. Right lane= straight on or right

three lanes left lane left only. middle lane straight on right lane straight on or right..

solves all the stupid numptys who learnt to drive with red flags from causing mayhem on roundabouts..


oh f*ck it NL policy, if its simple and could save lives lets not do it and waste millions on cameras to do the same job!!


Mart
Far too many people in this thread who have no idea what they are talking about , above quote is a classic example

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Old 14 May 2005, 04:07 PM
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We should have the same road laws as america but as always we are behind in some ways. With the amount of tax we pay we should have a 4 lane motorway each side with free services every 3 miles ( like france almost ).
Old 14 May 2005, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by kbsub
Far too many people in this thread who have no idea what they are talking about , above qoute is a classic example

I agree. Far too many people are demonstrating woefully inadequate knowledge of the highway code. HGVs approaching roundabouts in the left lane while signalling right is one situation actually covered in it!

We should sit everyone down to read it through once in a while. I reckon you'd hear "Kinell, I didn't know that" every couple of seconds.
Old 14 May 2005, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
As an opposite to the thread on overtaking, why do wagon drivers insist on hogging both lanes of dual carriageways for miles at a time when there is a minute difference between the speeds their governors will allow them to attain

BTW To the two tesco drivers who occupied over 6 miles overtaking and re-overtaking each other on the A34 past Newbury yesterday, I hope it took you a f**king long time to regain your 56.33mph after the p!ssed off bloke in the Merc estate got ahead of you then slowed you down to 25 at the foot of that hill

if he had slowed me down like that i would have shoved him up the feking hill,

ps its the wagon thats being over takens fault for not backing off 5mph

ps thrust dont get me started m8
Old 14 May 2005, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mart360
now if we had a government who actually thought about transport policy, the follwing two laws would be imnplemented..

on dual carrageways, no overtaking for artics... and they must occupoy the inside lane at all times, the outer lane being a overtaking / car lane...

and turning right from the left hand lane on a roundabout,,,

what WAN*KER in power hasnt yet seen you bloody dangerous that is...

if F*CkIN easy two lanes... left lane = straight on or left.. Right lane= straight on or right

three lanes left lane left only. middle lane straight on right lane straight on or right..

solves all the stupid numptys who learnt to drive with red flags from causing mayhem on roundabouts..


oh f*ck it NL policy, if its simple and could save lives lets not do it and waste millions on cameras to do the same job!!


Mart
fpmsl you need to now what your talking about 1st m8.next time your behind a wagon and hes turning hard right or left just watch where the trailer goes you fekin numpty
Old 14 May 2005, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NewLabour
I like to think of my time stuck behind an artic as a chance to demonstrate the mid range grunt of my car to everyone in the vicinity.

Get's my rocks off far better than p1ssing off some minimum wage meathead in his truck, his life is already crap enough without me sticking my oar in.
minimum wage now thats a new one thought i was on £14per hour have they put minimum wages up or something????
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I'd like to know how many of those that are slagging off HGV drivers have actually taken either an HGV or IAM driving test. Very few I suspect from their comments. Just goes to show what amateur drivers they are having only taken a simple 30 minute test which a even trained monkey could pass

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Originally Posted by hedgehog
I think it might be useful to reflect that for the most part the complaints aired here stem from the fact that you are discussing vehicles that are fitted with a speed limiter. By the nature of these devices there will be small differences between them and, in turn, this will allow some vehicles to travel slightly faster than others.

In the near future your car is going to be fitted with a similar device that wll act to limit your speed. However, its operation will not be as simple or predictable as limiting you to 56mph on the motorway. You will also find your car slowing down, almost randomly, for "dangerous" sections of road or even in wet weather. The target of the greens and anti-car lobby is to limit all vehicles to 40mph and, as already pointed out, they are using the 40mph HGV limit on single carriageways to enforce this limit upon private motorists by stealth.

People in green houses really should not throw stones and while you may not think you are in the green house yet you are actually beyond the point of making an escape.

So, watch the HGV drivers closely, they are demonstrating the use of techniques you are going to be needing yourself in the very near future.
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i took my cycle profencency (sp?) test

is that good enough
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Originally Posted by Chip
I'd like to know how many of those that are slagging off HGV drivers have actually taken either an HGV or IAM driving test. Very few I suspect from their comments. Just goes to show what amateur drivers they are having only taken a simple 30 minute test which a even trained monkey could pass

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lmao@chip

ive only got my psv to take now then its full

tempted to get "WAGON DRIVERS DO IT BEST" on the back of the car for the scooby shootout, because thats what most (not all)of them will see, is the back lol its like being back in the wagon but faster


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