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Originally Posted by gsm1
Yeah, but that depends on the person. What you think is 'better' may not be someone else's cup of tea.
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Originally Posted by Cyberevo
Hi Markus,
I don't think I could ever do the east coast, the weather extremiries frighten the hel out of me. If I had it my way I'd choose somewhere with a moderate climate all year round, -25 temps does not sound like a fun time to me, I'm sure the locals deal with it quite well though.
I'm not sure I want ot do the tech stuff any more after spending the best part of 15 yrs in it, and I'm not too sure about starting looking for a 'permy' job abroad, I get to board and hence contracting suits me.
I'm not sure why the wife doesn't like it, I just guess she's stuck in her ways a little, nice house, job and car etc...
Her sister emigrated to Toronto this year so we may go out and visit them soon.
If my wife was really up for the move then I would not hesitate but I'm not going to force upon her something she doesn't want to do...
I don't think I could ever do the east coast, the weather extremiries frighten the hel out of me. If I had it my way I'd choose somewhere with a moderate climate all year round, -25 temps does not sound like a fun time to me, I'm sure the locals deal with it quite well though.
I'm not sure I want ot do the tech stuff any more after spending the best part of 15 yrs in it, and I'm not too sure about starting looking for a 'permy' job abroad, I get to board and hence contracting suits me.
I'm not sure why the wife doesn't like it, I just guess she's stuck in her ways a little, nice house, job and car etc...
Her sister emigrated to Toronto this year so we may go out and visit them soon.
If my wife was really up for the move then I would not hesitate but I'm not going to force upon her something she doesn't want to do...
Summer out here is nice, a bit humid, but I like it. I got severe sunburn in late september last year
If your sister-in-law is out here, certainly pop over for a couple of weeks to see how you like it on a first impression kind of thing. If you're seriously thinking about it then you should really pop out for about a month or longer to get a feel for things. I didn't however and I still ended up liking it.
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Originally Posted by Markus
We've seen -25 to -30 here in Toronto over the last winter. Yes it's a mite cold, BUT, it's dry cold, rather than the UK's damp cold and it DOES make a big difference. Put it this way, it was around -15 when I left in December to come back for xmas in the UK. I went to a West Sussex meet and was complaining about it being freezing cold, and it was only around -2 (if that), the dampness makes it worse.
Summer out here is nice, a bit humid, but I like it. I got severe sunburn in late september last year
If your sister-in-law is out here, certainly pop over for a couple of weeks to see how you like it on a first impression kind of thing. If you're seriously thinking about it then you should really pop out for about a month or longer to get a feel for things. I didn't however and I still ended up liking it.
Summer out here is nice, a bit humid, but I like it. I got severe sunburn in late september last year
If your sister-in-law is out here, certainly pop over for a couple of weeks to see how you like it on a first impression kind of thing. If you're seriously thinking about it then you should really pop out for about a month or longer to get a feel for things. I didn't however and I still ended up liking it.
So you have trecking, watersports, and skiing, plus the rockies are so close by.
I will play back some videos we have made of Canada this weekend to see how she feels about it.
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Originally Posted by Cyberevo
Funny line, I'm going to take a handout and why not - I've been working for 18 yrs never claimed a penny, I've been out of a contract for 4 months, just the way it is (was promissed one but fell through after keeping me hanging on for 6 weeks) so I thought I'd make a claim today and why ******* NOT!
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I moved to Boston in October last year.
I'm really enjoying it here.
I miss my family and friends alot but I do not miss England. I am 24 and all of my friends are beginning to make their own lives so it was the perfect time for me to build my own.
It is cold here in winter but I love to board so that suits me down to the ground.
The summer is really hot and the beach is less than an hour away.
The people are great, standard of living is higher and my apartment is the size of a 3 bed english semi. for a lot less that the cost of the equivalent in england
The only fault I have is that everything is so fecking far apart. . have to drive everwhere!
And at 1.30GBP a gallon for V power can't complain!
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I'm really enjoying it here.
I miss my family and friends alot but I do not miss England. I am 24 and all of my friends are beginning to make their own lives so it was the perfect time for me to build my own.
It is cold here in winter but I love to board so that suits me down to the ground.
The summer is really hot and the beach is less than an hour away.
The people are great, standard of living is higher and my apartment is the size of a 3 bed english semi. for a lot less that the cost of the equivalent in england
The only fault I have is that everything is so fecking far apart. . have to drive everwhere!
And at 1.30GBP a gallon for V power can't complain!
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Well make the most of your handouts before we all chip off with our hard earned!
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Originally Posted by gareth123
Of course. But which particular cup of tea does the UK give you that you couldn't get better elsewhere? I can't think of much that the UK is the best place on the planet for, maybe watching football. Or bacon butties.
As for places like New Zealand, I think many people have a romanticised view of these countries. From what I've read places like Auckland have lots of problems with car crime/chavs/p*ssheads etc. as well.
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Originally Posted by Cyberevo
From earning £375 per day to £55.65 is not going to get me far, plus I'm not allowed to claim for the 4.5 months I've been off, sods law, I'll get a decent contract offer next week.
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Originally Posted by gareth123
V Power costs me ~GBP1.75 a gallon, I think you need to check your math
before making a fool of myself with my p*ss poor math if you were to show me your calcualtion that would be great. maybe I was a little off.
If its any help i paid $2.44 this morning.
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Originally Posted by ajm
Thanks for sharing your fiscal details with the forum, there should be more than enough there to fund your co-voters!
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Originally Posted by Markus
Bonehead,
Have a look here. It should give you information about the process. I do remember looking into it before I came over here. It's essentially a points scoring system.
I'm very lucky as I am classed as an Intra-Company Transferee. Basically speaking, we had a UK, US and Canadain office in our company, I was asked if I wanted to relocate to the Canadain office, which I jumped at Thus I did not need to go through the normal application process, so my entry was simply a case of going up to immigration in the airport when I landed, presenting a letter from my company, my passport, a letter from an immigration lawyer, and 20 mins later I had a work permit.
There are a couple of us on here/22B who live in Canada and so we've got various bits of advice to give.
If your'e serious about it, then ask as many questions as you want
Have a look here. It should give you information about the process. I do remember looking into it before I came over here. It's essentially a points scoring system.
I'm very lucky as I am classed as an Intra-Company Transferee. Basically speaking, we had a UK, US and Canadain office in our company, I was asked if I wanted to relocate to the Canadain office, which I jumped at Thus I did not need to go through the normal application process, so my entry was simply a case of going up to immigration in the airport when I landed, presenting a letter from my company, my passport, a letter from an immigration lawyer, and 20 mins later I had a work permit.
There are a couple of us on here/22B who live in Canada and so we've got various bits of advice to give.
If your'e serious about it, then ask as many questions as you want
Thanks for the info.
I've been looking around on the net and there's a show in York in a few weeks on emigrating which I'm gonna take a look at.
http://www.outboundpublishing.com/cg...howitem=000001
I'm certainly gonna look into moving.
Doubt if my new employers (Lincolnshire Police) will have anyone working in Canada though!
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Originally Posted by gareth123
$2.44 / 3.8 = $0.64 per litre, .64 x 4.5 = $2.88 per UK gallon, 1.9 exchange rate = ~GBP1.52 per gallon
My V Power is $2.82 (GBP1.75)
My V Power is $2.82 (GBP1.75)
Thanks for the maths correction. I should have known better than to use the Ex rate as a basic conversion.
Still it shows just how much tax our friends in the Uk are getting raped for!! *******.
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I've been to Vacouver and Torronto...Both very beutiful places...ranking 2nd and 3rd on my emmigration list of places.
Not been to New Zealand...but seeing every single person I've talked to about the place has nothing but praise - I'll have to plan a visit in the future.
Strange thing is, almost everywhere I go the people are far nicer. Round where I live in the UK, nobody would give a flying ****...and TBH that IS the British attitude in general, it disgusts me, and in many scienarios in the UK I'm forced to take the same attitude just to protect myself from all the scum infecting this place, its sickening.
Even the ozzies with their Kiwi/POM hatred and continual digs at us is not a patch on the attitude the general British posess.
Its very true that there is a stark difference to the motives of British emmigrants and foreign immigrants comming to the uk.
Although one bad thing with the Britsih expats I noticed whilst living out in spain...they don't integrate, they set up a little Britain of their own. Quite scary really, as I initially had hatred for immigrants because they fail to integrate whilst the British are doing exactly the same in Spain - and ruining a beutiful country
Not been to New Zealand...but seeing every single person I've talked to about the place has nothing but praise - I'll have to plan a visit in the future.
Strange thing is, almost everywhere I go the people are far nicer. Round where I live in the UK, nobody would give a flying ****...and TBH that IS the British attitude in general, it disgusts me, and in many scienarios in the UK I'm forced to take the same attitude just to protect myself from all the scum infecting this place, its sickening.
Even the ozzies with their Kiwi/POM hatred and continual digs at us is not a patch on the attitude the general British posess.
Its generally skilled people with money, not unskilled people who plan on living off the state and are unwilling to intergrate with the local population.
Although one bad thing with the Britsih expats I noticed whilst living out in spain...they don't integrate, they set up a little Britain of their own. Quite scary really, as I initially had hatred for immigrants because they fail to integrate whilst the British are doing exactly the same in Spain - and ruining a beutiful country
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I don't understand why there aren't riots in the streets over the taxation in the UK. It's a joke. Huge income tax and NI, then VAT and fuel duty etc when you spend what little is left. Hard working people get clobbered by the government, they take so much money off you, and for what? Most of the public services are a shambles, and too many people are allowed to leech off the state. I don't work hard so other people don't have to
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Originally Posted by Shark Man
Although one bad thing with the Britsih expats I noticed whilst living out in spain...they don't integrate, they set up a little Britain of their own. Quite scary really, as I initially had hatred for immigrants because they fail to integrate whilst the British are doing exactly the same in Spain - and ruining a beutiful country
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Originally Posted by Shark Man
I've been to Vacouver and Torronto...Both very beutiful places...ranking 2nd and 3rd on my emmigration list of places.
Not been to New Zealand...but seeing every single person I've talked to about the place has nothing but praise - I'll have to plan a visit in the future.
Strange thing is, almost everywhere I go the people are far nicer. Round where I live in the UK, nobody would give a flying ****...and TBH that IS the British attitude in general, it disgusts me, and in many scienarios in the UK I'm forced to take the same attitude just to protect myself from all the scum infecting this place, its sickening.
Even the ozzies with their Kiwi/POM hatred and continual digs at us is not a patch on the attitude the general British posess.
Its very true that there is a stark difference to the motives of British emmigrants and foreign immigrants comming to the uk.
Although one bad thing with the Britsih expats I noticed whilst living out in spain...they don't integrate, they set up a little Britain of their own. Quite scary really, as I initially had hatred for immigrants because they fail to integrate whilst the British are doing exactly the same in Spain - and ruining a beutiful country
Not been to New Zealand...but seeing every single person I've talked to about the place has nothing but praise - I'll have to plan a visit in the future.
Strange thing is, almost everywhere I go the people are far nicer. Round where I live in the UK, nobody would give a flying ****...and TBH that IS the British attitude in general, it disgusts me, and in many scienarios in the UK I'm forced to take the same attitude just to protect myself from all the scum infecting this place, its sickening.
Even the ozzies with their Kiwi/POM hatred and continual digs at us is not a patch on the attitude the general British posess.
Its very true that there is a stark difference to the motives of British emmigrants and foreign immigrants comming to the uk.
Although one bad thing with the Britsih expats I noticed whilst living out in spain...they don't integrate, they set up a little Britain of their own. Quite scary really, as I initially had hatred for immigrants because they fail to integrate whilst the British are doing exactly the same in Spain - and ruining a beutiful country
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Another vote for the USA
I’ve lived in Houston since Nov and love it. Although everyday life is more or less the same we have more $$ left in our pocket after tax and all the insurances (than the UK). Still pay quite a bit in tax though – but at least you can get some back.
The people are generally nicer, the weather is better, houses are cheap, lots to do, low crime etc but on the down side you can’t walk anywhere and V power is $2.30 – but life here is sweet (be even better when gas prices go down though )
I’ve lived in Houston since Nov and love it. Although everyday life is more or less the same we have more $$ left in our pocket after tax and all the insurances (than the UK). Still pay quite a bit in tax though – but at least you can get some back.
The people are generally nicer, the weather is better, houses are cheap, lots to do, low crime etc but on the down side you can’t walk anywhere and V power is $2.30 – but life here is sweet (be even better when gas prices go down though )
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Ha Ha Ha Ha
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DO IT - stop TALKING about it!!
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Ha Ha Ha Ha
Typical ScoobyNet members ........ Yeah!! I'm leaving!! Yeah!! It's so so unfair!! Yeah!! Just as soon as ... I'm OFF!! Yeah Ozzy here I come!!
Keyboard talk ........ drivel ......... you bunch of dreamers!
DO IT - stop TALKING about it!!
Pete
Typical ScoobyNet members ........ Yeah!! I'm leaving!! Yeah!! It's so so unfair!! Yeah!! Just as soon as ... I'm OFF!! Yeah Ozzy here I come!!
Keyboard talk ........ drivel ......... you bunch of dreamers!
DO IT - stop TALKING about it!!
Pete
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New Zealand is great. Been there four times because Mrs. Vegescoob was born there and some family are there.
We are starting to get things sorted with a view to going there.
I watch things there and one fly in ointment appearing is vocal green movement starting to spout off.
My attitude has always been that New Zealand is a country that could easily be self supporting, given the size of population, if/when things get hairy elsewhere. PeaK Oil and all that stuff.
We are starting to get things sorted with a view to going there.
I watch things there and one fly in ointment appearing is vocal green movement starting to spout off.
My attitude has always been that New Zealand is a country that could easily be self supporting, given the size of population, if/when things get hairy elsewhere. PeaK Oil and all that stuff.
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Hey Markus, do you need an Apple orientated designer on your team?
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Someone was telling me that New Zealand is v v anti speeding, as is Aussie. Is this the case, and if so, why do you want to go there? Yes, I know there is more to life than fast cars, but I'd pick a country that is a bit easier on the motorist than here.
Please correct me if I am wrong, as I may well be on of those who leave this country. Will have to be in a few years though
Please correct me if I am wrong, as I may well be on of those who leave this country. Will have to be in a few years though
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Oz as far as I know is only anti speeding in the cities - but trust me it is not anywhere near as bad as the UK. Out in the sticks its pretty relaxed as there is nobody there!
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Originally Posted by gareth123
I don't understand why there aren't riots in the streets over the taxation in the UK. It's a joke. Huge income tax and NI, then VAT and fuel duty etc when you spend what little is left. Hard working people get clobbered by the government, they take so much money off you, and for what? Most of the public services are a shambles, and too many people are allowed to leech off the state. I don't work hard so other people don't have to