"SPECIAL" Oil Change Procedure and other Horror Stories!
Originally Posted by micared
If you'd listen to him " far closer " , to quote your impenetrable take on the English language, then why don't you? He's telling you what he knows because it's based on experience, not 'cos it makes him feel good!
Talking with authority on these engines.......is that what you're suggesting you do? If so, based on what experience?
If changing the subject to nuclear warhead guidance systems diverts attention from one form of your ignorance to another, and it makes you feel better about yourself, then I'll be generous and indulge it. However, if I were you, I'd make a bit more effort with the basics in life, such as simple grammar, before moving on to that.
Talking with authority on these engines.......is that what you're suggesting you do? If so, based on what experience?
If changing the subject to nuclear warhead guidance systems diverts attention from one form of your ignorance to another, and it makes you feel better about yourself, then I'll be generous and indulge it. However, if I were you, I'd make a bit more effort with the basics in life, such as simple grammar, before moving on to that.

In Davids opinion the **** Oil Change Procedure should be carried out
In SUBARUs opinion its complete bollox, what they don't know about the Boxer Engine isn't really WORTH knowing!

I fall dead centre.
Subaru state that an empty Oil Filter can be used on start-up, I would always fill the filter ......... thats my own fetish.
So, come on, admit it ................... the **** Oil Change Procedure has been shown to be just that ****!
Pete
Originally Posted by Moray
David, is what you are saying fill the oil filter and thats good enough?
But, I think you will find that he subscribes to the Crank Sensor Dis-connect method ..... see post #1 for the other steps to take

Pete
Originally Posted by pslewis
Er, if he is then I am in total agreement.
But, I think you will find that he subscribes to the Crank Sensor Dis-connect method ..... see post #1 for the other steps to take
Pete
But, I think you will find that he subscribes to the Crank Sensor Dis-connect method ..... see post #1 for the other steps to take

Pete
Dear me Pete, your poor sentence structure and lack of commas is something I find so depressing in someone of your distinguished career background.
Btw, do you find the fitment of a nuclear warhead guidance system to be detrimental to the handling of your ( fictitional ? ) Subaru, or does it instill a balance and poise hitherto lacking in said vehicle....do tell.
Quite a list of different jobs you've laid claim to, even in my relatively short time on the board......school governor, engineer, and now, nuclear warhead guidance systems expert, as well as full time keyboard warrior. Where do you find the time? Can't wait to see what your parallel universe style existence forces you to imagine you've done next!
Btw, do you find the fitment of a nuclear warhead guidance system to be detrimental to the handling of your ( fictitional ? ) Subaru, or does it instill a balance and poise hitherto lacking in said vehicle....do tell.
Quite a list of different jobs you've laid claim to, even in my relatively short time on the board......school governor, engineer, and now, nuclear warhead guidance systems expert, as well as full time keyboard warrior. Where do you find the time? Can't wait to see what your parallel universe style existence forces you to imagine you've done next!
Originally Posted by pslewis
Er, if he is then I am in total agreement.
But, I think you will find that he subscribes to the Crank Sensor Dis-connect method ..... see post #1 for the other steps to take
Pete
But, I think you will find that he subscribes to the Crank Sensor Dis-connect method ..... see post #1 for the other steps to take

Pete
Originally Posted by micared
Quite a list of different jobs you've laid claim to, even in my relatively short time on the board......school governor, engineer, and now, nuclear warhead guidance systems expert, as well as full time keyboard warrior. Where do you find the time? Can't wait to see what your parallel universe style existence forces you to imagine you've done next!
1. A Warhead Expert is either a Scientist or an Engineer (its NOT 2 jobs you pratt!)
2. School Governor, thats a Voluntary Job (meetings and work normally done in the evenings) - its a job, without pay, to benefit the education of our children.
You seem to have a very unhealthy interest in me - it was funny, but you clearly need medical help now ...... I am concerned about your mental state - please promise me you will get some help?
GC8:- have you seen how hard it is to get those plugs out!!

Pete
Pete, on the plugs you only change them at 60k. Take air filter box out for drivers side and battery etc from passenger side and get in there no probs. Or if you have nice jack in workshop like you say, go from underneath. Sounds like a lot to take out but you only change them every 60k.
Originally Posted by pslewis
A couple of points you gormless idiot:-
1. A Warhead Expert is either a Scientist or an Engineer (its NOT 2 jobs you pratt!)
2. School Governor, thats a Voluntary Job (meetings and work normally done in the evenings) - its a job, without pay, to benefit the education of our children.
You seem to have a very unhealthy interest in me - it was funny, but you clearly need medical help now ...... I am concerned about your mental state - please promise me you will get some help?
GC8:- have you seen how hard it is to get those plugs out!!
Pete
1. A Warhead Expert is either a Scientist or an Engineer (its NOT 2 jobs you pratt!)
2. School Governor, thats a Voluntary Job (meetings and work normally done in the evenings) - its a job, without pay, to benefit the education of our children.
You seem to have a very unhealthy interest in me - it was funny, but you clearly need medical help now ...... I am concerned about your mental state - please promise me you will get some help?
GC8:- have you seen how hard it is to get those plugs out!!

Pete
Are the plugs easy to get out from underneath?? Is there an **** Procedure for Plug removal .... only use a rubber handled wrench or something?? 
I always thought they were a bugger ..... if they are easy then I'll only need a dealer to do the Cambelt ... or, is that easy too??
Pete

I always thought they were a bugger ..... if they are easy then I'll only need a dealer to do the Cambelt ... or, is that easy too??
Pete
Originally Posted by GC8
I have Pete; its a ****e of a job. Easy compared to my 32 valve 928 though...
Simon
Simon
The mind knows whats what - the body cannot carry out the orders sadly, an Oil Change I can do!

Pete
Originally Posted by pslewis
Are the plugs easy to get out from underneath?? Is there an **** Procedure for Plug removal .... only use a rubber handled wrench or something?? 
I always thought they were a bugger ..... if they are easy then I'll only need a dealer to do the Cambelt ... or, is that easy too??
Pete

I always thought they were a bugger ..... if they are easy then I'll only need a dealer to do the Cambelt ... or, is that easy too??
Pete
Gormless idiot, says the man.
School governor, says the man.
Scientist and engineer, says the man.
With your inability to put together even the simplest of grammatically correct sentences, it's no wonder the education system is in such a mess if you're allowed near it.
If you're such an eminent engineer and, to add to your long list of employment attributes, scientist now, why the hell can't you do even the most simple routine maintenance or understand basic advice on a car you own without resorting to asking endless questions of people who you've previously criticised for being ****?
You stop being a sanctimonious ****, I'll go away and get the help you think I need. In the meantime, why not stop asking for help from the people you take the pi55 out of so readily, and see how far you get arsing about with your own car before it grenades in your face.
Happy engineering or scientisting, or whatever it is your calling yourself this week...... and don't get so wound up, it's not good for you!
School governor, says the man.
Scientist and engineer, says the man.
With your inability to put together even the simplest of grammatically correct sentences, it's no wonder the education system is in such a mess if you're allowed near it.
If you're such an eminent engineer and, to add to your long list of employment attributes, scientist now, why the hell can't you do even the most simple routine maintenance or understand basic advice on a car you own without resorting to asking endless questions of people who you've previously criticised for being ****?
You stop being a sanctimonious ****, I'll go away and get the help you think I need. In the meantime, why not stop asking for help from the people you take the pi55 out of so readily, and see how far you get arsing about with your own car before it grenades in your face.
Happy engineering or scientisting, or whatever it is your calling yourself this week...... and don't get so wound up, it's not good for you!
Micared, congratulations - you are the only person who is on my ignore list ... as I understand it I will not now see your idiotic, confused and hatred breathing posts 
Goodbye loser, get a life and stop tagging on to others - the beauty is I won't be able to see your response ..........
GET HELP!
Pete

Goodbye loser, get a life and stop tagging on to others - the beauty is I won't be able to see your response ..........
GET HELP!
Pete
Originally Posted by pslewis
Micared, congratulations - you are the only person who is on my ignore list ... as I understand it I will not now see your idiotic, confused and hatred breathing posts 
Goodbye loser, get a life and stop tagging on to others - the beauty is I won't be able to see your response ..........
GET HELP!
Pete

Goodbye loser, get a life and stop tagging on to others - the beauty is I won't be able to see your response ..........
GET HELP!
Pete
Good luck in your continual quest to wind people up....sorry to see that you've got the hump because it backfired on you.
Don't bother to respond if you get this....if you do, it'll be toys out of the pram time, and you'll go on my ignore list!
Originally Posted by GREEN SCOOBY
Speaking of ignore lists! Petes on quite a few of the people that post on here


Getting back to Oil Changes, is Halfords Oil any good? and when it says Part Sythetic is that the same as Semi-Sythetic or not?
Pete
I have to agree with micared on some of the points.
Why does pslewis keep asking such basic questions?
some of these would be expected by a novice or newbie but not from a nuclear enginEEr (or scientist,teacher etc etc),or an sn regular with 10,792 posts under his belt.
If you dont think that the '**** oil change procedure' is necessary then fine,but all the rest of the comments are uncalled for.
David at API isnt just talking crap,there is a good reason for his explanation,and he will not benefit from people taking more care of there cars,however he would benefit from people who lose their engines from improper oil change procedures,or not bothering to change MAF sensors because they dont beleive that they will go wrong.
I just wonder wether you have been soaking in info whilst being a member of sn,or if the majority of your posts are from wind ups in the muppet forum.
There is a possibility that your car could pop its engine (or anyone elses) but trying to persuade others into taking less time and care with the maintainance,is not going to make you friends.(you may need some friends to help you with the routine maintainance judging by some of your questions on this post).
It may or may not be relevant to the reliability of the engine (the oil change),but I would rather spend a little more time with the oil change than risk spending £2000 and wasting hours or days when the engine goes bang.
I cant beleive this isnt a wind up (a good one if it is).
Why does pslewis keep asking such basic questions?
some of these would be expected by a novice or newbie but not from a nuclear enginEEr (or scientist,teacher etc etc),or an sn regular with 10,792 posts under his belt.
If you dont think that the '**** oil change procedure' is necessary then fine,but all the rest of the comments are uncalled for.
David at API isnt just talking crap,there is a good reason for his explanation,and he will not benefit from people taking more care of there cars,however he would benefit from people who lose their engines from improper oil change procedures,or not bothering to change MAF sensors because they dont beleive that they will go wrong.
I just wonder wether you have been soaking in info whilst being a member of sn,or if the majority of your posts are from wind ups in the muppet forum.
There is a possibility that your car could pop its engine (or anyone elses) but trying to persuade others into taking less time and care with the maintainance,is not going to make you friends.(you may need some friends to help you with the routine maintainance judging by some of your questions on this post).
It may or may not be relevant to the reliability of the engine (the oil change),but I would rather spend a little more time with the oil change than risk spending £2000 and wasting hours or days when the engine goes bang.
I cant beleive this isnt a wind up (a good one if it is).
Last edited by dij; Apr 27, 2005 at 09:36 PM.
Originally Posted by GREEN SCOOBY
Pete! try Alyn at AS PERFORMANCE for your oil, He can deliver next day and can probably sell you the motul oil which is probably the best for the same price as Halfords. He is worth a try.

Pete
Originally Posted by dij
Why does pslewis keep asking such basic questions?
some of these would be expected by a novice or newbie but not from a nuclear enginEEr (or scientist,teacher etc etc),or an sn regular with posts under his belt.
some of these would be expected by a novice or newbie but not from a nuclear enginEEr (or scientist,teacher etc etc),or an sn regular with posts under his belt.
The word Engineer is over used, if you take an engine apart and put it back together, you are a TECHNICIAN or CRAFTSMAN.
An Engineer explains to the Technician what he wants, the Technician converts that into practicality.
The Technician would be able to advise the Engineer how an engine should be maintained - the Engineer takes that info and decides for himself whether it actually makes sense to do it that way ......... sometimes its an old wives tale, like the **** Oil Change Procedure, and I have a duty to inform those that haven't a clue either way what they should know!
I am the clear mind amongst a lot of smoke screens ... plenty have their own reasons for mystifying the Boxer Engine ... as an Engineer its a simple engine to understand and I can explain what happens when and how - but, I am always open to what the Technicians and Craftsmen have to say ...... but when its not backed up with hard facts ( just 'feelings' ) then I question it.
Pete
Originally Posted by Bubba po
Oh, for God's sake. It's just changing the oil on a perfectly ordinary car engine. :weep:
Go easy, there are those on here who have now fainted! ... the very thought!!
This is a very technically challenging engine with special requirements and specialists to take apart - there are things that even SUBARU don't know, but those 'respected' 'honourable' gents on here who massage each others egos DO KNOW!! and you should be damned grateful that they share their secrets with YOU!!
Pete
Originally Posted by Moray
And it appears you are old enough to at least have a brain. You all need to get out more. Dont you have a women to play with in the evenings ?
Ive got a mint bird here in the evenings but that has got nothing to do with wanting info,,and gaining info.


