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Old 12 April 2005, 09:33 PM
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Either 50 litre or 60 litre fuel tanl.

MPG - yes, 20 - 25 I guess, I get 22 mpg in town / commuting and dual carriageway driving, but not that std a car.
Old 12 April 2005, 09:34 PM
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But then the octane is only 98 (i dont have a Shell station near to me in Bideford) so would I be stupid to not use this octane booster?

Do many of you guys/gals use an octane booster?
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I had a 1999 Type R about a year ago........... If I were you I would get it remapped to run on UK fuel and forget the octane stuff, too much hassle.

Mine was done by Bob Rawle at B.R Developments, car went like sh!te off a stick after he had mapped it.

I had mine mapped on Optimax but you can map it on whatever fuel you like, depending where shell petrol stations are etc... but you can get slightly better performance if map it to run on Optimax.

Oh, and also fit a knocklink too

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I had a 1999 Type R about a year ago........... If I were you I would get it remapped to run on UK fuel and forget the octane stuff, too much hassle.

Mine was done by Bob Rawle at B.R Developments, car went like sh!te off a stick after he had mapped it (on Optimax) and also fit a knocklink too
Where could I get this done locally? I guess I would have to travel up country somewhere to get this sorted? The octane stuff really does sound like a pain in ones buttocks...

I imagine that would put the power up a little or down?
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hi mate , just in reply to your comment about japanese service histories, i dont want want to be argumentative, but my friend and i have both imported subaru impreza's direct from japan , (from second hand car dealers in japan and the auctions in japan) the cars we have bought have alaways had full service histories with fully stamped service books , printed service invoices from the subaru garages in japan ,recipts for the parts used , standard and modifed, original copies of auction reports etc etc , so that seems to dispell your therory , or i supose it depends on the importer what u get with the car or the prev jap owner(s) cheers
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Bob is based in Swindon but does come to Richmond sometimes too, so pick your nearest really. (I am in Suffolk and went to Richmond, but would of even went to Swindon if I had to as it is worth it.

If your planning on modding your car then I would do the mods first otherwise to get the best out of your mods you would want to get your ECU re-mapped again to make use of your mods

Here is their web site if you want some info http://www.brdevelopments.com/

Oh and yes my power went up too, I had done exhaust, down pipe, manifold, induction kit and with the Link ECU and re-map my type r was at 320Bhp.

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Question Questions, questions!! Sorry I do apologise...

Originally Posted by stiscooby
Bob is based in Swindon but does come to Richmond sometimes too, so pick your nearest really. (I am in Suffolk and went to Richmond, but would of even went to Swindon if I had to as it is worth it.

If your planning on modding your car then I would do the mods first otherwise to get the best out of your mods you would want to get your ECU re-mapped again to make use of your mods

Here is their web site if you want some info http://www.brdevelopments.com/

Oh and yes my power went up too, I had done exhaust, down pipe, manifold, induction kit and with the Link ECU and re-map my type r was at 320Bhp.
I dont think I need any more power!! By the sounds of it what I have is going to be more than enough for sure! well.. for a while anyways

I live in Devon in the South West of England so going to Surrey would be a fair trip for me.

I'd like to get rid of this problem or hassle with running it with booster and so on first. If I have to pay more out then so be it, the car is worth it.

Is there anyone else that you might recommend?
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Originally Posted by oscarprezza
hi mate , just in reply to your comment about japanese service histories, i dont want want to be argumentative, but my friend and i have both imported subaru impreza's direct from japan , (from second hand car dealers in japan and the auctions in japan) the cars we have bought have alaways had full service histories with fully stamped service books , printed service invoices from the subaru garages in japan ,recipts for the parts used , standard and modifed, original copies of auction reports etc etc , so that seems to dispell your therory , or i supose it depends on the importer what u get with the car or the prev jap owner(s) cheers
This isnt subjective; its a fact. Whilst you may well have bought cars with a completed book as you say; this doesnt change the fact that what I say is correct. Is should have added that I import cars, from auction not from dealers, and I havent ever bought a car (all Grade IV) thats had a a completed service book.

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I'm sorry if my comment freaked you out, Phill, but I really wouldn't want you to end up with a fooked car. The safety (remap) work you were talking about could be the best modification you will ever make to this car, for your peace of mind.

And don't go chasing v-max, because that's when they seem to let go.

It's po, by the way.
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Mr Po is correct; and dont expect to drive it on the M5 at 100 miles per hour or it will blow up; its not what theyre made for.

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I'm sorry if my comment freaked you out, Phill, but I really wouldn't want you to end up with a fooked car. The safety (remap) work you were talking about could be the best modification you will ever make to this car, for your peace of mind.

And don't go chasing v-max, because that's when they seem to let go.

It's po, by the way.
Sorry Po!

You didnt 'freak' me out, you just got me thinking! whats the point in having to add more expense to the car, when I can just have it remapped and save all that darn hassle?

Not being really stupid (but please bear in mind Im blonde!!) could I get it mapped to run on normal 95 Ron stuff? Im not bothered about price, but just wondered...

Whats V-Max Po? Where might I be able to get this remap done? I'd like someone that knows what they are doing to do it! I dont want a messed up car!
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Originally Posted by GC8
Mr Po is correct; and dont expect to drive it on the M5 at 100 miles per hour or it will blow up; its not what theyre made for.

Simon
Why cant they run at 100mph? My 220 used to cruise at that no problems... 4k on the revs as well...
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Because the intercooler inlet doesnt catch enough cooling air at this speed; also they have very low gearing and theyre revving their bollocks off at these speeds so you have a lethal combination of very hot thin oil and and a very hot charge temperature.

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V-Max... just a daft term for top speed!

I'm no expert on Type R's, but I believe they have a much shorter gearing than standard. A remap that stops you running lean at high speed will prevent you from getting a blown engine, but as GC8 points out, cruising at speeds significantly over 100mph isn't what they were designed for. Get a 330d or summat if that's your bag.
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Originally Posted by GC8
Because the intercooler inlet doesnt catch enough cooling air at this speed; also they have very low gearing and theyre revving their bollocks off at these speeds so you have a lethal combination of very hot thin oil and and a very hot charge temperature.

Simon
A - How can I 'fix' this problem? If my Dad drives it, oh dear god..
B - Why is the gearing so low?
C - Is there anyway I could change the gearing? (Im a complete novice here ok.. Im trying to learn whats fessable and whats not...)
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Not sure what remap is available for your year of car .. V4 type R isn't it?

2000 on there is ECUTek mapping of the original ECU. Before that there are after market ECUs that cost to buy and to map. Think I am about right there with years?
All work well, are tuned to the local fuel so you can choose what you ant to use and set the car for that.
But the RA is a more tuned motor, and you will lose some power by mapping to UK std unleaded, but it will still be safe.

As said above, do any mods first then get mapped soon after.
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Phill,wake up & pay attention.., u don't have 2 go to bloody Surrey!
Didn't "stiscooby" say this Bob bloke was "based in Swindon but comes 2 Richmond sometimes too, so pick your nearest"...
That would b Swindon then surely???
Unless I have suddenly become really stupid or am writing this whilst asleep in which case I apologise!!!
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The gearing's so low in order that the acceleration is neck-snapping at twisty-road speed... Maximum excitement and entertainment!
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V-Max... just a daft term for top speed!

I'm no expert on Type R's, but I believe they have a much shorter gearing than standard. A remap that stops you running lean at high speed will prevent you from getting a blown engine, but as GC8 points out, cruising at speeds significantly over 100mph isn't what they were designed for. Get a 330d or summat if that's your bag.
I cant remember the rev's at the speeds we where going but I think they where 'high ish'...

I dont want a BMW, as Jermery Clarkson points out, built by Germans, driven by tossers

I dont in tend on going that speed all the time, I dont see the point in it! Anything I can do to help the oil temps and so on?
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Phill,wake up & pay attention.., u don't have 2 go to bloody Surrey!
Didn't "stiscooby" say this Bob bloke was "based in Swindon but comes 2 Richmond sometimes too, so pick your nearest"...
That would b Swindon then surely???
Unless I have suddenly become really stupid or am writing this whilst asleep in which case I apologise!!!
I'd rather travel to somewhere that someone knows what they are doing rather than going not that far at all and having a novice (like myself) doing it and messing it up... Is there any harm in asking people?
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Well I don't know of anywhere in the Devon area that could re-map your car, someone on this site might though?

It's probably 2-3 hours drive for you? I would make the trip and get it sorted properly

It's fine at 100mph, if your running it flat out for about 2 hours at 145mph+ then you might not do it much good. That's another good idea with getting a knocklink fitted, it lights up small LED lights which detect "detination" of the engine which is when most engine failures happen.......... someone runs their car at 140mph+ on UK fuel, in a car that it mapped to run on 100ron fuel, which causes det, which = engine failure.

So dont thrash it until you get it re-mapped, once re-mapped then have some fun
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Originally Posted by vulnax999
Not sure what remap is available for your year of car .. V4 type R isn't it?

2000 on there is ECUTek mapping of the original ECU. Before that there are after market ECUs that cost to buy and to map. Think I am about right there with years?
All work well, are tuned to the local fuel so you can choose what you ant to use and set the car for that.
But the RA is a more tuned motor, and you will lose some power by mapping to UK std unleaded, but it will still be safe.

As said above, do any mods first then get mapped soon after.
To be honest, I think the power that this thing has got, its more than enough! Its got an induction kit and thats all I really would have wanted to put on for awhile.

I dont want to spend money on doing the engine up before I have had a chance to drive the thing and get used to it properly! I would perhaps see how much I loose and go from there? Or jus stick with super.. either way I aint too fussy as long as it dont blow up!
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Originally Posted by stiscooby
Well I don't know of anywhere in the Devon area that could re-map your car, someone on this site might though?

It's probably 2-3 hours drive for you? I would make the trip and get it sorted properly

So dont thrash it until you get it re-mapped, once re-mapped then have some fun
I dont plan on thrashing it until I feel comfortable in the car and that bloody scoop has gone! Horrible thing..

Theres a guy near me that does do tuning for TVR, Lotus, Jag and so on, that also serviced and tuned my Rover 220 Turbo Coupe, would he be a good bet? I believe he knows what he is doing..

Is that Knocklink very expensive? sounds like a good thing to do with my Dad, might scare him off driving it like a nutta!
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You dont have to re-map the car "just" to give it more power, you have it mapped so it run's safe.

Obviously if your car already has some mods done, then re-mapping will help make use of the benifits of those mods, but it's not the only reason for doing it, it's for the piece of mind that it's mapped to run on UK fuel, regardless if it's optimax, super unleaded etc etc.

If I was to buy another type r and even if it was standard I would have it mapped asap.


I would take it to someone who knows their Scoobs, Bob Rawle is the man you really should see, if you have a search on this site you will find that he is well respected for what he does. From what I remember when I went to see him he said at that time they had mapped over 300 cars none of which ever suffered from an engine failure, thats gotta be a good sign! ( I am in no way associated with B.R Developments by the way, just a happy customer).

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Knock link all in ( new sensor, wiring and display box/electrics ) is about £100, try BRD ( Bob Rawle Developments, WWW metioned earlier ).

Shows when car is pinking / detting / knocking etc - pre-ingnition - due to too much boost or too low fuel grade/octane or too much ignition advance, too hot air charge etc.

Should / could save your engine, certainly shows when things are not right!
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hear that some of the service histories can go missing at the ports at either eand of the journey, it is marked on the auction report if the vehicle has any history, etc, i even had a 4.5 AB with only 58000 kils on it and loads of hks mods boxed up in the boot ind kit , boost controller, dump valve , unnsued paddle cluch , boost guage , turbo timer, fcd ,afr brand new kyb shocks etc , our all landed at newcastle port
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Originally Posted by stiscooby
You dont have to re-map the car "just" to give it more power, you have it mapped so it run's safe.
I would take it to someone who knows their Scoobs, Bob Rawle is the man you really should see, if you have a search on this site you will find that he is well respected for what he does. From what I remember when I went to see him he said at that time they had mapped over 300 cars none of which ever suffered from an engine failure, thats gotta be a good sign! ( I am in no way associated with B.R Developments by the way, just a happy customer).
Running safe is my middle name I would happy drive to Surrey if thats the best way to know that things are going to be all right. I have sent an email mentioning the site and Bob about all the remapping and so on.

I have just put £8500 into this car, Im not just going to throw it away! This isnt cheap motoring! I dont want things going bad on me! I've had enough of that with the ex girl friend!

Is there any point in changing the Intercooler by the way?
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Hope u feel a bit more positive now.
All ypu've got 2 decide now is whether 2 get any mods done first or get the car fixed 2 run on UK fuel first.
If u haven't really got anything specific in mind mod-wise, then I personally would get the fuel problem sorted first as that is going 2 b a major hassle & worry 4 u otherwise.
Didn't mean 2 offend u earlier, it's just the way I speak!
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Originally Posted by Phill-type-R
Is there any point in changing the Intercooler by the way?
Some owners who are after more and more extreme power outputs from their engines do a front-mounted intercooler modification. You have the STI intercooler, and it should be adequate.
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hear that some of the service histories can go missing at the ports at either eand of the journey, it is marked on the auction report if the vehicle has any history, etc, i even had a 4.5 AB with only 58000 kils fully documented history even invoices for the fitting of the mods and the instructions and loads of hks mods boxed up in the boot ind kit , boost controller, dump valve , unnsued paddle cluch , boost guage , turbo timer, fcd ,afr brand new kyb shocks etc , ours all landed at newcastle port, car was supplied by an agent in japan ,after a long search when i got sick of looking at the auction rubish on showa, ie, r, a , oa's etc etc forgot to add that haul shipping will not let any spare parts to be carried in the vehicles to be landed at newcastle anymore due to stuff vannishing and people complaining



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