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Old 15 March 2005, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8
Im not sure whether anyone has added this Tel; but even where there are mitigating circumstances and a ban is avoided, the offender will still receive the same licence endorsement.

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Noted, Simon - thanks.
Old 15 March 2005, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
I assume you are on about guidelines and not actual law when quoting ACPOS. Still, does not change the fact that she was prosecuted and convicted on 39. I'm not on about the norm, I'm on about a specific case.
Correct but the ACPO/ACPOS guidelines are there for a very good reason.

Why prosecute a borderline case when the high likelyhood is that the case will collapse in court....

Believe me, if I were the accused in your specific case, I'm pretty confident that I wouldn't be convicted of DD after blowing 39ug
Old 15 March 2005, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Noted, Simon - thanks.
In light of my subsequent post I should add that in the small number of occaisions that Im aware of this has always been the case.

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Old 15 March 2005, 06:29 PM
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for an 6ft guy about 12 stone, whats the limit? whats the de-alcohol time? e.g. can have three pints on the go, but then wait 3 hours before driving etc...
Old 15 March 2005, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by CoobyS
for an 6ft guy about 12 stone, whats the limit? whats the de-alcohol time? e.g. can have three pints on the go, but then wait 3 hours before driving etc...
The rule of thumb is leave an hour for each unit of alcohol. So for 3 pints you would need to wait 6 hours.

However, with alcohol levels there are so many variables between each person and circumstance (how much food was eaten etc), that it is safer to not drink at all nowadays.

Many people get caught the morning after. Drink 10 pints on a Saturday night and they get nicked driving the family to homebase early afternoon the next day.
Old 15 March 2005, 06:57 PM
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Gojng back to the point re prosecuting 39 micrgrammes in breath, I have dealth with literally hunderds of drink drive cases, and I have NEVER seen one which had a reading less than 40.......The simple fact is that the CPS do not prosceute readings under 40, although there is no legal bar on them doing so......if they did prosecute you at 39, you must have annoyed em bigtime!

As for all this how long after lunch business......its really not worth getting all scientific over it, as when you get caught the courts have heard all the stories before about how careful you usually are etc!
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Originally Posted by Jerome
The rule of thumb is leave an hour for each unit of alcohol. So for 3 pints you would need to wait 6 hours.

However, with alcohol levels there are so many variables between each person and circumstance (how much food was eaten etc), that it is safer to not drink at all nowadays.

Many people get caught the morning after. Drink 10 pints on a Saturday night and they get nicked driving the family to homebase early afternoon the next day.
This is the problem...have a large night and a nice fry up in the morning and think you're right as rain and then get nicked! Best to invest in a tester that you can get from halfords etc...
Old 15 March 2005, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
is it an automatic ban, no questions asked? Can anyone over the limit ever be released with just a caution?

Is there a suspended custodial sentence involved too?
I got a life sentence for drink driving.

Only I wasn't the one drinking, I was a back seat passenger in a car hit by a drink driver.

Fúcking love em I do.
Old 16 March 2005, 08:21 AM
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Yeah me too Spoon fcking drunk driver hit me head on at over 100mph, what I would'nt like to do to that ****, break every bone he broke of mine, and give him a life full of pain and suffering
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Old 16 March 2005, 08:27 AM
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Sorry to hear that Spoon/Scoob99


Are the Halfords-style self-test kits of any value, ie are they reasonably accurate, anybody know?
Old 16 March 2005, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Sorry to hear that Spoon/Scoob99


Are the Halfords-style self-test kits of any value, ie are they reasonably accurate, anybody know?
Put it this way....

If your self-test kit says you are under the limit and you are subsequently stopped and found to be over, it won't get you off, as it is simply an unapproved "indicator".

Having said that, a few of the motoring press have group tested the products available and a some of them are supposed to be fairly reliable indicators.

Better than nothing I suppose.

Either that or you could present yourself at your local police office and ask them if they'd be so kind as to bag you. I've had a few folk ask me and I've always obliged.
Old 16 March 2005, 09:18 AM
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But if you'd driven to the police station for a self-test and were found to be over the limit, what would happen?!
Old 16 March 2005, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
But if you'd driven to the police station for a self-test and were found to be over the limit, what would happen?!
LOL.

They might ask, why request a breath test if you have already made the decision to drive?

I suppose it only really applies to you if you are reasonably close to the local constabulary!

i.e. You'd be done!
Old 16 March 2005, 09:39 AM
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Self-testers, and whether anyone bothers with the reading, discussed here:

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=382935
Old 16 March 2005, 11:22 AM
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Something that hasn't been discussed yet is that one of the other "automatic" consequences of being caught for drink driving is that your insurance company will most likely tell you to "go away" or increase your premium massively!!
Old 16 March 2005, 11:28 AM
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From post #21:

Originally Posted by type-r-stan
I wish now that i kept the scooby but thought my insurance would be too high so sold it. When i was on the rehab course part of it was to ring insurance companies for quotes and the increase was minimal. i have just been put on the misses focus and that was 45 quid extra for the year.
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