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Old 08 March 2005, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
Nice contradiction there.... you say you agree with Chip then you say it's the same regardless of colour
I agree - blacks do have a chip on their shoulder.......along with whites, Asians and so on.

So he is correct, he just failed to mention every other toss-piece living here.
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Originally Posted by TheBigMan
I agree - blacks do have a chip on their shoulder.......along with whites, Asians and so on.

So he is correct, he just failed to mention every other toss-piece living here.
So a lot of people have a chip on their shoulder..... To single out 'Blacks' in a general statement is racist as it suggests prejudice.
Old 08 March 2005, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
So a lot of people have a chip on their shoulder..... To single out 'Blacks' in a general statement is racist as it suggests prejudice.
I suppose but this thread is about blacks though.
Old 08 March 2005, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TheBigMan
I suppose but this thread is about blacks though.
You realise that but others dont, its the world we live in now that Im suprised this thread has lasted as long as it has with the amount of times the word black has been used
Old 08 March 2005, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
You realise that but others dont, its the world we live in now that Im suprised this thread has lasted as long as it has with the amount of times the word black has been used
This is a racist statement no matter what the context of the thread. IMHO

Like it or not a lot of the blacks in the UK have a bloody big chip on their shoulder and think everyone owes them a favour.
Old 08 March 2005, 10:34 AM
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blimy, this is a thread about "black" people so why should he make a comment regarding other race's? he might have stereotype'd "blacks" but he aint made a raceist comment...

Racism is treating someone differently or unfairly simply because they belong to a different race or culture NOT by making a generalised comment on their race
Old 08 March 2005, 10:51 AM
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Good old racist Scoobynet.

It never fails
Old 08 March 2005, 10:52 AM
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aye exactly. racist is spouted about way to much for my liking when racism has nothing to do with it.... sign of the times though
Old 08 March 2005, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
This is a racist statement no matter what the context of the thread. IMHO
There was nothing racist about that statement. Your inference of it was in fact racist.
Old 08 March 2005, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
There was nothing racist about that statement. Your inference of it was in fact racist.
He made a sweeping generalisation based on nothing other than a persons race and I would say the comment is derogatory. If that's not racist then my definition of what is racist is wrong.
Old 08 March 2005, 11:06 AM
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maybe your definition is wrong? for a start he said blacks in the UK. not blacks in general... so the black in the UK is a VERY small minority of the race he is aiming his comment at... so its not a sweeping generalisation of a race....
Old 08 March 2005, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
maybe your definition is wrong?
maybe it is.
Old 08 March 2005, 11:37 AM
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Some of the lads who would be included in this scheme were saying yesterday that they were not impressed because being selected for it indicates that they are not intelligent.

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Old 08 March 2005, 11:40 AM
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Thing is, this is done anyhow in the majority of schools. When I went to school we had 10 sets of maths, set 1 to 5. All the brain boxes we're in set 1 and all the thickos or kids who messed about was put into set 5. Then everyone learned at their own capablilities... I see this as no different except they're picking on a particular race which makes it funny coming from a group who want racial equality
Old 08 March 2005, 11:56 AM
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He said a lot of black people have chips on their shoulders. Whether the fact is right or wrong is moot, there's nothing inherently racist about saying it because he wasn't stating it at the exclusion of all other races. Simple. You've inferred that he was racist because it's what we've been brought up to believe. I.e. that one cannot say anything detrimental about somebody from a different ethnic group for fear of being deemed racist.
Old 08 March 2005, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
aye exactly. racist is spouted about way to much for my liking when racism has nothing to do with it.... sign of the times though
Anything and everything is "racist" these days depending on how much of a ponse the person making the accusation is.

Dare I say, people trying too hard to be "PC" and holier than thou.

"Black" aint racist. This thread is about blacks. As in people (more than one) with black skin - hence the "s" after the word "black".

Davegtt/Jap2Scrap - we are sooo misunderstood!! I aint racist but I'm not going to tread on egg-shells everytime a "touchy" subject is bought up. People accusing me of racism can stick their opinions up their poo pipe.
Old 09 March 2005, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
I.e. that one cannot say anything detrimental about somebody from a different ethnic group for fear of being deemed racist.
Exactly.

And another thing, why whenever Stephen Lawrence, the poor lad murdered in a terrible racist attack is mentioned on the news,in papers etc is he referred to as the black teenager Stephen Lawrence. Why mention the black bit every time. After all the dont mention white when referring to people like PC Keith Blakelock do they.

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Old 09 March 2005, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Exactly.

And another thing, why whenever Stephen Lawrence, the poor lad murdered in a terrible racist attack is mentioned on the news,in papers etc is he referred to as the black teenager Stephen Lawrence. Why mention the black bit every time. After all the dont mention white when referring to people like PC Keith Blakelock do they.

Chip
You say it yourself. One attack was racially motivated and the other wasn't. In that example the colour of his skin is relevant.
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