Clocks Forward 1 HOUR Tomorrow - REMEMBER!
30 October 2004, 08:28 PM
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Am I alone in getting up at 2am to change the clocks?
Surely not!
The sundial is still confusing me, all I can think is that I have to twist it around 30 degrees?? Now, which way?
Pete
Surely not!
The sundial is still confusing me, all I can think is that I have to twist it around 30 degrees?? Now, which way?
Pete
to the seriousness(sp?) of this thread
to Pete
31 October 2004, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Am I alone in getting up at 2am to change the clocks?
Surely not!
The sundial is still confusing me, all I can think is that I have to twist it around 30 degrees?? Now, which way?
Pete
Surely not!
The sundial is still confusing me, all I can think is that I have to twist it around 30 degrees?? Now, which way?
Pete
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31 October 2004, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Butty
If the sundial confuses you Pete, then go back to using the stone circle you grew up with
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31 October 2004, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Butty
If the sundial confuses you Pete, then go back to using the stone circle you grew up with
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31 October 2004, 09:52 AM
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Pete,
In order to get the right time you must face the right direction thus we can assume that the right time and direction is neither the wrong time or direction or the left time or direction then we can discount these from the equation.
For example if you get the right time and face the wrong direction you may well be changing someone elses sundial. Likewise if you are facing the right direction but you have the left time then the time will be short! Should you find yourself short of time then you have obviously moved your sundial on too far and indeed you should have moved it back - probably closer to the house.
I hope this helps
SJ
In order to get the right time you must face the right direction thus we can assume that the right time and direction is neither the wrong time or direction or the left time or direction then we can discount these from the equation.
For example if you get the right time and face the wrong direction you may well be changing someone elses sundial. Likewise if you are facing the right direction but you have the left time then the time will be short! Should you find yourself short of time then you have obviously moved your sundial on too far and indeed you should have moved it back - probably closer to the house.
I hope this helps
SJ
31 October 2004, 07:26 PM
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I've read that 200 times and still can't figure out how to adjust the time - ah, well, time has no meaning for me these days .... so maybe it doesn't matter - I was just really interested in knowing how they altered their sundials in the middle ages They MUST be a way?
Pete
They MUST be a way?Pete
31 October 2004, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Don't lose any sleep over it though 
Please someone tell me how I change my sundial!!??
Pete
Please someone tell me how I change my sundial!!??
Pete
31 October 2004, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I've read that 200 times and still can't figure out how to adjust the time - ah, well, time has no meaning for me these days .... so maybe it doesn't matter - I was just really interested in knowing how they altered their sundials in the middle ages They MUST be a way?
Pete
They MUST be a way?Pete
There now, I hope that gives you enough material to warrant dropping this particular, and singularly unsuccessful, windup!
31 October 2004, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckrogers
Its better to remain silent and appear dumb, than to speak and remove all doubt.
The only way I can work out is a 30 degree shift ....... but, clockwise or anti-clockwise?
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31 October 2004, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
In case you overlooked my earlier post why is your sundial set to BST anyway Pete?
why is your sundial set to BST anyway Pete? Pete
31 October 2004, 09:12 PM
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You must have the only sundial that is set to BST then! Also, in order to find true time from your sundial you need to add/subtract x minutes depending on what time of year it is (and your longitude) as per the "equation of time" due to the positioning of the sun. You must already be doing this (as you are clearly a stickler for accuracy ) so while you are doing that why not subtract an extra hour to take into account the fact it is now GMT?
) so while you are doing that why not subtract an extra hour to take into account the fact it is now GMT?
31 October 2004, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
You must have the only sundial that is set to BST then! Also, in order to find true time from your sundial you need to add/subtract x minutes depending on what time of year it is (and your longitude) as per the "equation of time" due to the positioning of the sun. You must already be doing this (as you are clearly a stickler for accuracy ) so while you are doing that why not subtract an extra hour to take into account the fact it is now GMT?
) so while you are doing that why not subtract an extra hour to take into account the fact it is now GMT?
Pete
31 October 2004, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
Ok, I give up.... let the ruse continue 
....
....If a sundial remains static all year then for 6 months it is showing the wrong time - surely thats correct?
So, it must be moved (or the baseplate must be) to compensate?
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31 October 2004, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
It's no ruse, I wish it were ........ its a valid point.
If a sundial remains static all year then for 6 months it is showing the wrong time - surely thats correct?
So, it must be moved (or the baseplate must be) to compensate?
Pete
If a sundial remains static all year then for 6 months it is showing the wrong time - surely thats correct?
So, it must be moved (or the baseplate must be) to compensate?
Pete
and now all of scoobynet knows that too, so unless you are going to adjust your sundial every 2-3 days (and look silly) you are going to have to drop this subject forthwith (and look silly).
31 October 2004, 10:12 PM
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If that was the case then, surely, they are useless at the only thing they are supposed to do?
Why didn't the ancients just buy a watch rather than a poxy sundial then?
Pete
Why didn't the ancients just buy a watch rather than a poxy sundial then?
Pete
31 October 2004, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
If that was the case then, surely, they are useless at the only thing they are supposed to do?
a) Adding and subtracting minutes as per a simple table for the purposes of using your sundial
b) Knowing when to give up on the biannual clock change windups
c) Being able to keep the thread sounding remotely plausible
d) Identifying when a seasoned troll hunter is using your thread to pass a few dull moments
p.s. still voting Conservative!!!
31 October 2004, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
If that was the case then, surely, they are useless at the only thing they are supposed to do?
Why didn't the ancients just buy a watch rather than a poxy sundial then?
Pete
Why didn't the ancients just buy a watch rather than a poxy sundial then?
Pete
31 October 2004, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
a seasoned troll hunter is using your thread to pass a few dull moments
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31 October 2004, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Considering the number of moments you have spent on my threads - you clearly have THOUSANDS of dull moments!!
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Notice my contributions to this thread have been both topical and fertile with useful information despite the slightly unconvincing origins of this thread. That is called making the best of a bad lot!
