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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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If you mail flatfourimprezaclub(screen name on here) he had the same scam tryed on him altho he played it a lot further and got a cheque etc from them but was very consirmed so held off from sending anything im sure he would give some info etc! may even be the same people!
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 10:24 AM
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I wonder just how many people are scammed by this?

Report it to the mag you advertised in, and the police too just for good measure to see if they're trying to get something together against the guy.
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by chiark
I wonder just how many people are scammed by this?

Report it to the mag you advertised in, and the police too just for good measure to see if they're trying to get something together against the guy.
Yeah I actaully e-mail the national high tech crimes unit and even thou I told them I still had the guy waiting and wanting to make arrangements and a good oppertunity for them to organise some kind of sting and get some of these scumbags they told me they could not help me and to contact my local plod station What on earth would the local plod know about tracing down an internet scammer?!?!?!?!?!!



My first e-mail to NHTCU:


Hi,

Not sure if you can do anything or are interested in this seeming opertunity.

I am selling my car and received a seemly innocent e-mail from a potential buyer asking for details about the cars condition which I replied to but not giving any other details about where I live.

I am pretty clued up on with computer, internet etc, so did a trace of the e-mail, low and behold it originated from nigeria, suprise suprise!

Anyway, Received a reply from the so-called 'buyer' asking for contact details so that he can arrange to 'purchase' (in other words scam me) the car.

Would you be interested in dealing with this so that perhaps you can nick these damn muppets and hopefully lock them up and throw away they key?

Was thinking that by arranging a for him to 'view' the car at my house ( the address of your nick in otherwords) and pass on the details to you so you could deal with these scamming scumbags.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Regards
Phil



There reply:

Dear Sir

This is not a matter that can be dealt with by this unit. However you may
be able to secure some assistance if you contact your local police. I would
caution you however that this particular fraud is sometime worked in a less
obvious way. The attacker agrees to send a cheque in advance for a higher
amount that that which is due, says it's a mistake, and asks you to return
the balance once you have banked the cheque. Some weeks later when you have
sent the money you will find that the cheque was in fact a forgery and has
bounced.

At this point you have no money and have paid the suspect a lump of your own
money for the privilege.

Therefore your best advice if you cannot get local police interested is not
to proceed with the transaction. However if you do chose to do not proceed
with sending anything anywhere until you are completely sure that any funds
have fully cleared.

I hope this is of assistance to you


Desk Officer (AL)
Tactical & Technical Support
National Hi-Tech Crime Unit
PO Box 10101
London
England
E14 9NF
Office +44(0)870 241 0549
Fax +44(0)870 241 5729
Email desk.officer@nhtcu.org
Web www.nhtcu.org



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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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Ok, anyway this is the latest reply from mr 'I want to scam you'

Payment ;
There is creditor of mine owing me the sum of (35,000pounds) but he had paid me part of the money(22,000pds) .I want to seize this oppurtuionity in retriving the balance .I will inform him in sending you the cashier cheque that belongs to mine on your behalf .I will be hoping in be in assisstance of mine in retriving the money back .I will want you to send me the necesary infomation to send .You will help me to pay the shipper the remaining balance .With your agrement i will want you to get back to me with your;name, address, zip code, telephone number for faster communication thanks for your copration.
Best regsrd..


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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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ok so now i have a doubt in my mind! maybe it is innocent but had a call last night from a guy in brussels asking about the tuscan, had a chat in which he told me he had also e-mailed me etc etc now i am being bombarded with phone calls and as im working in a busy office/workshop cant easily talk so today so far 6 missed calls! would someone run a check if i forward his mail address??????

steve
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tuscan57
ok so now i have a doubt in my mind! maybe it is innocent but had a call last night from a guy in brussels asking about the tuscan, had a chat in which he told me he had also e-mailed me etc etc now i am being bombarded with phone calls and as im working in a busy office/workshop cant easily talk so today so far 6 missed calls! would someone run a check if i forward his mail address??????

steve
yeah sure, but need more than the e-mail address, need the e-mail header from the e-mail he sent you. look at my first few posts on this thread and you'll see what I mean by headers, just incase your not sure
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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by EvilKyote
yeah sure, but need more than the e-mail address, need the e-mail header from the e-mail he sent you. look at my first few posts on this thread and you'll see what I mean by headers, just incase your not sure
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hope this helps!

cheers
steve
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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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Its a scam. String him along if you ask me.

Somehow you may be able to sell him an Impreza, but then actually send him a Matchbox model? Not sure exactly how you would do it, but it's possible I guess.
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