shamrock

I'm going through a similar situation right now.

I've been seeing an older woman for the past six months but I had a lot on my plate with exams and moving jobs so I didn't feel it was right to take things too seriously. I didn't treat her like sh*t but I wasn't exactly romantic. She was mad about me though which I found strange.

Things started to get serious though and I really started to like her. I started dining her, treating her like a queen and behaving like a complete gent. Just when I thought things could be going somewhere she turns round and says she's not ready for any kind of relationship with anyone and wants a break.

I haven't contacted her since and I don't intend to (well not for a few weeks at least).

I think I've learned the lesson that I should just look after number one and sod everyone else, as long as I'm happy that's all that matters. I'll just make the most of any relationship that I have from now on and enjoy it while it lasts. I keep getting the feeling that it doesn't matter how hard you try at a relationship cos it's all down to fate ....

weapon69

lol lovely. I think you went to the same charm school as someone i know

Daz34

LMAO

66 Blue

Very true!!

Is being an arrogant ba$tard the way to go then

STi wanna Subaru

iTrader: (1)

mate, don't take advice about women from me!

EddScott

Prime example:

We have nieghbours who are OK but he can be a right nasty begger to her at times. If she even trys to argue with him he'll either walk out or the whole street know about it. Won't lift a finger at any time to help her and if she asks him to do something he won't becuase she has asked him (if you see what I mean.)

However, his tea is always ready when he is home from work. He can go out whenever he likes but she must give him a good few weeks notice to get used to the idea. And generally if he says jump its "How high"

Now me, I'm quite happy to do things like a bit of washing up or do the shopping or whatever. I'm not that bothered about going out so my GF does a fair bit and if she wnats anything or is skint or whatever than I'll generally help her any way I can. It is quite interesting that she just assumes I'll do these things and takes advantage of certain situations.

Revently I wanted to go to watch a film and asked her to come with me. About 10 mins before we leave she says she's not really fussed and expected me to get annoyed but not go. I went anyway much to her disgust and on my return she was as nice as pie.

Don't make sense really but its quite hard to be a bast$rd if its not in your nature but I'm learning

T4molie

I remember a few years back (in the good ole clubbing days) I was out with one of my bro's and some mates.

My Bro - Arrogant, bullish beer drinking ladies man
Me - Generally a "nice" well rounded guy

We're in this club and my bro's been chatting this girl up (He's attached and I'm single as usual ). He disappears to the bog and I get chatting to her. She eventually get's round to saying that "I'm such a nice guy" and "really listen when a woman is talking" yadda yadda yadda, "if you put you and your bro together you'd have the perfect man - you being the nice part and him the er rugged bit".

Guess who she went home with (My bro to be clear)

My comment to her as she comes downstairs the next morning "Yeah but nice doesn't get you laid does it!!!"

MJW

You should've said 'nice doesn't give you herpes'

TonyNesta

Audi-Boy, where d'ya get that info from ? LadderTheory.com or Sex and the City ?

Very true, nonetheless - nice guy does not work - you end up being a skint cuddlebitch !!! But treat 'em badly, and you're beating them off with a ****ty stick ! We live in a crazy f*cked up world.....

And yes, before anyone asks, I'm single. I've had an extra knacker installed to cope with the excess tetch-tosterone, and my bitterness processor is running at 120%...

Ho Hum.

T

T4molie

LOL @ MJW

Rachael

Ooh! You're bitter! I have NEVER ****ed around with someone else on my guy in the 7 1/2 years with been together! (Have I go the wording right here?) He's a good guy, (I don't want to embarass him too much if he's reading! ) who has been there for me totally over a couple of really traumatic years. This means so much more than looking hot (though in my opinion... shhh, stop there! ). I certainly don't want some guy who is going to treat me mean... wouldn't keep me interested at all. Who wants to feel like $hit all the time? I can be insecure enough as it is... but not insecure enough to let somebody make me feel worse. Bye bye bad bloke!

When you meet the right person, you don't need to do the mean act... you don't need to act full stop!

Just chill... things tend to work out..... eventually!

Drunken Bungle Whore

Nothing like a few sweeping generalisations to brighten my afternoon!

1. Girls and boys can be just as unfaithful as each other
2. Most people are good, kind, honest and faithful - it's just that the others are more fun to gossip about!
3. Have been cheated on by men plenty of times in the past. Have never cheated myself. Two wrongs don't make a right and it won't stop me trusting my husband who would never harm a hair on my head.
4. If there were more bubbles and daisies in the world then we'd all get along a whole lot better!

Just off for a 5 hour drive to Launceston now.....

Vette_76

It seems like there's a thread on this subject every other day!!

I can't believe you guys don't get it yet!!

Audi-Boy said it best:

..."women do not want a woman with a ****".......

You don't have to go out of your way to be nasty, just start acting like men have always acted (well up until this "modern man" bull$hit started) - don't fall over yourself to be nice, she's not the only bird in the world!!

Oh, and wherever possible - take the pi$$ out of her a little bit - surefire way into her knickers!!

Drunken Bungle Whore

And you boys wonder why you can't find a decent woman.....

<shakes head in general disbelief>

Maybe when you're past puberty things might work out for you eh?

weapon69

Can't say that's ever worked on me, usually ensures he doesn't get any for quite a while lol

foamy

You mean there are some?

STi wanna Subaru

iTrader: (1)

<sweeping comment mode on>

Women tend to change their attitude with age due to fear of being left on the shelf.

OllyK

Kiss of death - time to walk!

Rachael

And guys don't?

What about all these comments like "I'm sick of playing the field, I just want to find the right woman to grow old(er) with."

Bless!

weapon69

You mean you know a man that might have actually said that?!

Rachael

hehehehe... I wouldn't know, I've been too busy being faithful for the past 7 1/2 years!

Buzzer

Isnt that called flirting

In my limited experience both boys and girls go through two modes of outlook in relationships:

1. The ones who want to play the field and see what's the best catch available at the time. Irrelevent of whether they want a committed relationship now or not. This is where you get the a$$hole attitude from lads and girls alike.

2. The ones who have completed their training (see 1 above) and are now looking for a more settled relationship with the possibility of long term committment etc etc

The problems occur when phase 1 peeps meet phase 2 peeps, as there is no age limit to the change of direction its a case of trial and error. It works eventually.

So a phase 1 girl will be a biatch to a phase two lad and vice-versa. Historically girls have been surpressed and it was "normal" for a girl to remain a "lady" and look for available suitors. Nowadays, girlies are a bit more clued up and are seen as equals so they too now act like boys have historically acted.

I think its a case of "boys you've had it your way for long enough, so now we're having a go" and the lads.............................................. .................................................. ..........................................DONT LIKE IT

OllyK

They are usually the ones that run off with a guy called Gerald when they are in their 50's

weapon69

LOL ahh yes.

Adrian F

I think the overwhelming experience is that people have had girl friends and treated them with respect and been nice and in return they have been abused.

As for men are as unfaithful as women I don't think so pretty much any women can go out and get laid if she wants most man can't. As they say on a date only one person knows if they are having sex that night and she is in control.

I know women who say they are totally faithful to their husbands and would never do any thing naughty but think it is OK to go out with their mates (all married or in relationships) clubbing and spend the night getting various men “excited” and then groping them to find the biggest one (you know what) of the night occasionally one of the mates goes some where more private to try it for size. Sure hubby would be impressed sitting at home with the kids.

One of my ex’s flat mates use to have three boyfriends at the same time and then went out with another mate (Living with the father of her kids) and they would both pull and bring men back for one night stands so when we got up in the morning you never knew which men would be wondering around the flat.

My mates and I go regular places and see women with wedding and engagement rings on who go the same places regularly and yet frequently have their tongues down different men’s throat. The list is endless. Obviously there are nice women I just don't know a man who has found one!

And how come they get half of every thing you had before they arrived on the scene!

suprabeast

because for some reason they just seem to get away with it! Look at that **** bloke whos just had to give his wife 50MILLION quid. That was HIS business... why should she be entitled to that much money

Simon C

Oh boy do I agree with some of the sentiments on here. Just been screwed over myself. 1 think I will add, is its funny that lasses always want to be friends after they rip your heart out. To add insult to injury she is now expecting me to be the same as when we first met.

I give up, being singles a whole lot easier.

Scooby_Dee

IMO women seem to be attracted to men that are **** holes if they want a bit of fun, nice guys if they want a relationship.

Butkus

I must admit, my friends and I have been going out both nights every weekend for the past few months, and I am rapidly starting to lose interest in it. I don't know if it's just that clubs and pubs have the 'wrong people' in them or what, but on the whole the girls are really hard work. My friends go over to them and start chatting away and you can immediately see that the girls know they have the upper hand and are in the position of power. I just can't subject myself to that kind of humiliation. It's expected that guys should approach girls, but I just find so often that they're rude.

None of us are bad looking guys, and even when you try it on with the girls that aren't quite so good looking they can be really quite nasty.

We're meant to be going out again this weekend, but I just don't have the desire to do it.

I'm not saying girls everywhere are like this. I was talking to a girl the other day who was really nice. However, it was in a totally different environment. Maybe that's the difference.

Oh, and another thing. If you go up to girls they'll often give you the brush off. Then, if your friends get talking to a couple of them and you don't really join in with the '"chatting up" they ask "what's up with your friend, he's really moody?" I just feel like I don't want to stroke their egos!

So, all this has made me quite bitter, so I better work on that!

T4molie

Man how many times have I been in that situation I dread to think!!!!

Stroking their egos is spot on - but I think it's deffo down to the environment - youre never gonna meet "miss for the rest of my life" in a club slaughtered outta her head

Lately I've been wondering whether I'll ever meet a "miss for the rest of my....." but it's a nice thought none the less