NOBLED UP TO THE MAX!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by simo
steve
if it was fun at bedford last month in the r34 (& it was), what is the noble going to be like
I think petes made a good choice as well, a r34 instead of the 33 and a car he knows. Hope to make it on the 27th
cheers simon
ps Cem, how you doing? long time no speak. S
if it was fun at bedford last month in the r34 (& it was), what is the noble going to be like
I think petes made a good choice as well, a r34 instead of the 33 and a car he knows. Hope to make it on the 27th
cheers simon
ps Cem, how you doing? long time no speak. S
Thanx mate glad you enjoyed the ride
I am expecting 1 or 2 rotations before getting to grips with the GTO3R but I am sure it will be very grin inducing in the process
If you make to Bedford on the 27th you are more than welcome to come out for SPIN (probably)
See ya there
Steve
Cem, I look forward very much to going round in the GT3 it is still one of my favourite wagons despite my experience with Porker staff
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The only problem with Porsche depreciation is that everybody compares what they paid for it against what the dealers sells it and not what the dealer will buy it off them for. Can assure you that most Porsche dealers or stealers as I prefer to call them will offer around £10K less than they will sell for. When I bought my 02 996 C2 for £62K when it was 6 months old and decided to sell it 9 months later the sorts of offers I was getting from dealers was about £50K so in that sense a Porsche can depreciate by £12K in 9 months!! The days of them being rock solid investments are over!!!
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Originally Posted by Blow Dog
As for Porsche depreciation, I will stand by my original comment. They are rated as having the best financial returns of any mass produced car - fact. Yes, the GT2 seems a bit of an exception, but used Mk2 GT3's still command premium prices - the reason I went for new. One of the recent journals calculated the GT3's to have a 5% yearly depreciation rate - compared to 45% for something like a Maserati. A 5 year old '99 model GT3 is still selling for £60k - £3k a year depreciation.
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Originally Posted by DavidBrown
It's true that the Mk1 996 GT3 held it's value well, but the same is not necessarily true of the new model. Tom Hartley had one with 300 miles on, and £10K off list this week.. now bearing in mind that dealers like to put about £5K across these cars, the seller must have lost £15K at a minimum. Other Traders may sell cars for over-list (if you ignore the actual price of the car with options), but they sure aren't paying over-list to sellers.
Surely a jest? Point me to this please, if it matches my spec, I'm cancelling my order.
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Right, just got off the phone to them. The car went for £80k! Had about £8k worth of extras (including PCCB, which has terrible press right now) but still, not bad going for a car that retails OOT for £76k!
It's also a well known fact that selling a car directly to a dealer is the worse possible way of returning funds on a car. I can only imagine what the dealer would have given him for any other car.
Cem
It's also a well known fact that selling a car directly to a dealer is the worse possible way of returning funds on a car. I can only imagine what the dealer would have given him for any other car.
Cem
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Originally Posted by Blow Dog
10k off list at 300 miles?
Surely a jest? Point me to this please, if it matches my spec, I'm cancelling my order.
Surely a jest? Point me to this please, if it matches my spec, I'm cancelling my order.
Edited to say: Just read your new post Cem. I don't know the exact spec of the car, I just remember the advert saying "Fully loaded, this car was £88K new, now £79K". That's what I was basing my comments on. Someone did lose a fair wedge on it (£10,000 in 150 miles), even if the options were questionable.
The problem with "this end of the market" is that often people won't buy a used car from a person, preferring to pay top-whack from a dealer, with the peace of mind it's (supposed) to bring. So often you find you only have a dealer who will buy it
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Originally Posted by DavidBrown
The problem with "this end of the market" is that often people won't buy a used car from a person, preferring to pay top-whack from a dealer, with the peace of mind it's (supposed) to bring. So often you find you only have a dealer who will buy it
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Originally Posted by Type R
There is a a chap called Andy IIRC, who attends most the SELOC trackdays, he seems to get the thing to go quick, fantastic.
That's Andy Walsh who runs 1st Lotus.
Great driver, who also is running an SIDC driver training day at North Weald.
http://www.1stlotus.com/
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Noble owners online
Steve
Go to http://www.nobleownersclub.net/ they have a mailing list and a Forum.
DJ
(ps, top car mate)
Go to http://www.nobleownersclub.net/ they have a mailing list and a Forum.
DJ
(ps, top car mate)
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Originally Posted by Edcase
John F, I got to see the business end of both a noble (not the latest M12 GTO) and an Exige driven at a very twitchy 9/10th's at Donington on one of the hottest days of the year last year.
I was genuinely shocked at just how quickly they were lapping, and made me look almost static (although that heatsoak didn't help!). The Exige looked much more of a handful on the limit, but given the larger size, the noble looked simply effortless!
I also had a radical on track at the same time as me. My god it was like watching a scalextric car going around corners, making absolute mincemeat of westie megabusas etc!!
I am seriously considering a ' proper' track day car when the scoob goes next month.
I was genuinely shocked at just how quickly they were lapping, and made me look almost static (although that heatsoak didn't help!). The Exige looked much more of a handful on the limit, but given the larger size, the noble looked simply effortless!
I also had a radical on track at the same time as me. My god it was like watching a scalextric car going around corners, making absolute mincemeat of westie megabusas etc!!
I am seriously considering a ' proper' track day car when the scoob goes next month.
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Originally Posted by dba
I have,maybe you don't go to enough track days Mr Felstead?
sorry if that is below the belt,i know you are picking up bans
sorry if that is below the belt,i know you are picking up bans
Below the belt is what i have come to expect from a certain group of people i used to associate with. Shame really.
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lovely car, put some pics up when you get it.
I would love one, competed against one in a sprint once and beat it in my Impreza dont think the driver was much cop though ! and I knew the circuit inside out back to front
I would love one, competed against one in a sprint once and beat it in my Impreza
dont think the driver was much cop though ! and I knew the circuit inside out back to front
