He's selling the mythical scoob slaying VTS! Woo, now, if only I had £4000 to spend on a 98/R Saxo

 

maybe its took much power for his imagination lol

 

and no...i really cant spell lol.

 

With the exception of our single SSC friend I agree. No standard VTS will beat ANY standard Impreza EVER.

But, having now owned a VTS and a modified classic Impreza (and driven many other scoobys) I can categorically say that the difference isn't as much as you'd all hope (especially between vts/bugeye). I have also noticed that a lot of peeps on this board (which you all know I love ) do sadly seem to think that standard scoobys are massively quick. They are not, I've got one! Only 10 minutes ago I was accelerating hard from 20-100mph coming off a roundabout and its by no means untouchable - its positively lame compared to when it was modded

I know you're all thinking, 'SB's banging the Saxo Drum' again but thats not really the point I'm trying to make. I'm just trying to make the point that some of us seem to think that standard UK scoobys take a giant dump on the entire hot-hatch platoon. This is a flawed attitude IMHO

 

Wait, lets back up a little.

£20,000 on performance mods and:

a) it didn't involve forced induction
b) it only resulted in 160bhp

What did you do, gold plate everything?

 

On the subject of UK vs Jap Scoobies, there is definately a world of difference. I test drove both and the misses swore she would never get in the car with me again if I had the Jap import. Damn so why did I buy the UK turbo lol

 

I couldn't agree with this more. And this is coming from someone going from a standard 99 to a full decat and remap. And the new ages are slower futher still. So it doesn't surprise me that people come out with stories about keeping up/beating imprezas (although the topic of this thread is probably a little ott ).

Sorry to bring it up, but the M3 debate is a prime example. When my car was standard, my mates M3 Evo made me feel like I was going in reverse...Now I can put up a good fight to 80-90.

 

You got a uk because the wife wouldn't let you have an import.......LMAO wimp

The £20k on mods thing really does need some qualification

 

U mean "whimp" perhaps? More a case of the doggy preferring the boot on a wagon to a jap saloon!

 

buy a jap wagon

 

The thought did cross my mind, but not been able to find what I was looking for. Am happy with the UK for now, it does the job. Besides it could be messy peeling the dog off the back windscreen in a jap one!

 

He was probably racing a Remote Control Car

 

It seems a few of us have had VTS's myself included

They are good cars, But apart from the Idle problem. Had to keep going back to Citroen for a new map upgrade every month!!

The VTS is very nippy. But it would not beat a scoob.

Rob.

 

Idle problem?? Whats this?? Mines was always fine from memory.

 

I had series 1 R98 VTS. I think there were a good few people with the same problem back then. Citroen could not find the problem. Instead we all used to go to our local citroen garage when they called us with a new download was available.

The revs used to go up and down when idleing 500rpm to 1900rpm
up/down up/down.

 

Hi lads, its the chap who started this thread on the SSC here. I had no idea it would be such a popular topic of conversation!!!

Believe me i was as flabbergasted as you lot to learn that i had a VTS beating imprezza, so after a hard day in the world of kitchen sales and having faced a torrent of abuse from the SSC and Scooby net i decided to take the car round to my uncles house, who owns a 01 scooby WRX import to test my theory that my rather nippy 130 bhp VTS could infact live up to my claim of "BEATING AN IMPPREZZA EVERY TIME". Against my uncle we had numerous 0-100 try outs on the A413 and while he obviously had me off the line i was always right on his tail and could overtake him after the ton mark.

so whilst not being able to "BEAT" off the line every time i still feel this car is more than capable of racing and beating an imprezza should the need arise.

Thanks for reading

 

Try it on a bendy wet road!

 

sir_neemz - Yea yea, what ever. Keep dreaming.

[Edited by Nezz10 - 12/3/2003 4:52:40 PM]

 

sir_neemz - Sccoby Shootout 2004 - Guest appearance???

 

Oh and tell your uncle the jap imports go better if you take the 112 mph limiter off them!!

 

What i don't understand is that these "saxo" guys say they can't afford a scooby etc but then spend £10-20K on modding their cars to make them faster (still only worth £5k when they come to sell them), why not just spend the money on a faster car?

Can't wait to hear about the first citroen C2 vtr owner bragging about whooping a scooby or the likes, especially with a 0-60 time of 9.5 sec's, mind you they could beat a scooby sport.

 

I think u should learn to spell Impreza or are u mistaking it for an Altezza (who makes them i can never remember)

 

Why can't you lot see a wind up when there is one

He's got you hook, line and sinker!

Must be all the geeks that own Impreza's that fall for it

 

Alteeza is a jap Lexus is200 i think, with the performance the uk is200 should of had.

 

LOL @ beating a scooby to 100mph Even without a launch and crap driving a bugeye will still do 0-100mph in 18s. A good vts on a good day might make 19 dead. As for passing after 100mph dream on!!! The VTS very noticeably runs out of puff after 95/100mph.

 

I had a VTS a few years ago and completely standard it did the 1/4 mile at the Pod in 15.94. Which I reckons quite good. I had a right laugh in it...till the head gasket went...... A Turbo'd VTS will do 1/4 mile in approx 14.5 I believe. Only 200'ish bhp but weighs nothing.

 

You can do better than 15.9 Also a 200bhp saxo should be able to do better than 14.5 no problem but its got a lot to do with the driver as putting that power down won't be easy

 

is that true?

i can manage that in just under 13 seconds in my jap classic?

 

No its faster than that...what I'm saying is you could make a total cods piece of it and still put in a faster time than a saxo. The only chance a vts has of looking respectable is to play with a bugeye from a rolling start where 4wd is a hinderance rather than an advantage

 

sir_neemz, hows the weather in cookoo land, does the tooth fairy still leave 50 pence under your pillow , be a good boy, remember santa's watching you !!! ps, don't forget your medication ....