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Old 13 June 2003, 09:12 PM
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Wos69, justice is not selective... it is for all equally.

Popeye, debate the issue, don't try to 'attack' me, you haven't the brains for it, and I would tear you to pieces...




Old 13 June 2003, 10:14 PM
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so mycroft, you think its ok that you as a tax payer will be footing the bill for the scums case??


shame on you you fecking muppett
Old 13 June 2003, 10:53 PM
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This has made me boil more than most other things that happen throughout life!!

I think Mycroft is arguing for the fact that the law should be tested ............ I am pretty sure he in no way agrees that the GypsieScumm has ANY right to sue Tony Martin!!!

This 4rse is in prison!! We are paying for his keep, we are paying for his case, we will be paying for him throughout his miserable life! .............. personally, Tony Martin has saved the country of huge costs when he shot and killed the 16 year old - imagine how long we would have to pay for that little ****??!!

Tony Martin should get a Good Citizen Award, isn't it amazing that the Gypsies have put money on his head?? What will the police do when they kill him?? Will they do what they did when he pleaded for help years ago when he was being robbed - NOTHING!!??

Can the courts not see whats right and whats wrong??????????

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Old 13 June 2003, 11:06 PM
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Is he taking action for loss of earnings now that he finds it harder to do the breaking in and robbing people? How much does he earn robbing people every week?

:-(

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Old 13 June 2003, 11:20 PM
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Scummy claims for...

Loss of earnings??? - i would like to see how much money he has legitimately earned (and paid tax on) is his scummy life. I bet that he has never seen a P60 [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Can't get a job? - Can't he say "do you want fries with that? [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Can't have sex? - Great news, we don't want his sort polluting the gene pool [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Can't do martial arts? - WTF is a known and proven criminal being allowed to make his body a lethal weapon for? [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Oh, and it seems that Fearon is to be told where Martin will live on release - 'cos he is a victim ... ridiculous :mad [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]


Can't someone tell the US that Fearon is an Al Quaeda member, and get the **** shipped over to Guantanamo Bay????

mb
Old 13 June 2003, 11:23 PM
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Remember to lobby the solicitors - they do NOT HAVE to represent him - lets put some pressure on!!

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Old 14 June 2003, 12:06 AM
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Absolutely right.
Old 14 June 2003, 12:24 AM
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Twerps... the stupidity of you guys needs to be read to be believed!

You have excelled yourselves this time... definitely splashing around in the shallow end of the gene pool guys... hahaha

'PS' can only mean pretty-stupid...

You know... you make want to support the Pikey, simply because to support you bunch of red-necks makes me feel ashamed!

I am a 'supporter' of Mr Martins stand against crime, [although not the method] but to read what you dreadful people think makes me think that he has to stay inside longer...

The 'child' he shot in the back with a 12 bore [which rips people apart as much as anything else] was just 16yo and gullible... yet this person is lionised by so many... to kill someone is to take all the future away from that person, to kill a 'simple' 16yo who is under the influence of an older more cunning mind makes it doubly dreadful, perhaps instead of just getting angry at this creature trying to sue mr Martin you should in fact see this as confirmation that the killing was wrong and that the man suing Mr Martin is in fact as guilty of the death of the 16yo as Mr Martin.

To my thinking they are both equally guilty of the death of an 'innocent'... if someone has the mental age of 8 in only part of their mind [which is far more common than you would believe] then that is what you are doing... you are killing an 8yo... because he is doing what his 8yo mind commands... tell me, oh wise and clever Scooby-mobsters, would you feel that Mr martin had done a good thing if he had shot an 8yo child running away from him?

because no matter how big the 16yo was his mind was no more developed than that of an 8yo...

Who's up for shooting 8yo kids in the back?

Sign up below... [makes paedophilia seem like... childs play?



Old 14 June 2003, 01:14 AM
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Mycroft u been sniffing the diesel again? Turning this debate into child **** says it all. YOU ARE A COMPLETE ***Prafanities Edited***.

BTW you live in Newbury. Next time my mate sees you on a 'meet' he'll remind you of what a fully fledged tOsser u r. LOL.

[Edited by Josh L - 6/15/2003 2:16:27 PM]
Old 14 June 2003, 04:31 AM
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some previous examples of letters to his solicitors demonstrating scoobynets outrage...

http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/thread.asp?ThreadID=209219

AJM - Just to clarify - those posts are NOT scoobynet's outrage - they are comments by certain members of ScoobyNet & do not represent ScoobyNet Ltd's pov..

[Edited by Puff The Magic Wagon! - 6/13/2003 11:25:09 PM]
Yes, sorry PTMW, agreed.
Old 14 June 2003, 05:54 AM
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Mycroft,

I have read your argument.

Putting transparent, inflammatory remarks aside, you have quite obviously made an effort to interpret the facts in such a way as to illicit maximum response and I hope my reply discourages the same.

You have laboured on the assumed innocence of the perpetrator that was killed, based on his age, and now you seek to project his perceived innocence on the second perpetrator.

Tony Martin was said to have thought like a child, yet his agressors, one of which was a 16 yr old, were able to behave like seasoned and mature criminals. One of his agressors ended up dead, the second of his agressors managed to take the time to put his injury aside to contmeplate how he can get money out of his former victim. The younger one died. If you were to allocate odds on two inexperienced burgalers how would you insure their lives? Are you that surprised at the outcome?

However, whether or not the so called "child" was rightly or wrongly killed is not the subject of this post. What is in debate is whether or not the other man repsonsible for robbing Tony Martin has a right to sue him for the injuries he sustained during that robbery. If you genuinely think he does then I urge you to place yourself in the same position, in a lonely house at night,and see if your bravery would overcome your nerves given a shotgun and the gnoring fear of a nightly assault on your property.

If you genuinely feel you can handle the "not knowing" and the "will it be me" feeling then post your adress right here and lets see how you deal with what Tony Martin had to deal with.
Old 14 June 2003, 06:26 AM
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Agree with most of whats being said (I bet you cant guess who I dont agree with )

Disgusting that criminals can do this. Its like the person (may have been an old lady?) who was told to take barbed wire down from her fence in her back garden as 'it could injure someone trying to climb over it'. WTF [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

How any system can allow a criminal to claim for injuries/loss etc sustained while committing a criminal act is beyond me....

It doesnt matter whether he wont get much or whatever....he shouldnt be in the bloody position to claim it in the first place....he should be chained up to some other crim breaking rocks for the best part of his life....


Finally, can I make one observation to Mycroft. How in the hell can you have a go at people for 'attacking' you when your opening line on this thread was:

It is so pleasing that the Moron Brigade are in full swing...
..then went on to say:

you... are...fvcking...idiots... of the first order!
....and so on. And WTF have paedophiles got to do with this?


Even if you were as intelligent as you seem to think you are, and made valid points, no-one will ever get as far as appreciating your opinions because of the instant dislike they take to you.

[Edited by JohnMcC - 6/14/2003 6:27:21 AM]
Old 14 June 2003, 09:43 AM
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Interesting to hear that Tony Martin had been declined for parole because he was unrepentant, when asked if he had any regrets or would he do the same again he answered he had no regrets and would do the same again (theres honesty for you, he could have lied), so he stays behind bars as he is a menace to society.

I have to admit if i was he and had been robbed as many times with so little response from the police or the legal system i would also take the law into my own hands, especially if my wife and kids were there.
how are you supposed to know when robbery turns more violent if the wife or the kids went downstairs to investigate a noise, are you not telling me that if Martin went downstairs and confronted the intruders with the labour party manifesto and not a shotgun they wouldn't have kicked the sh1te out of him and made off?

There are other parties that should also take responsibility for this, the police for doing little/nothing from other incidents he's had, the legal system and of course the blokes that broke in!
It makes me wonder if an mp had reported as many robberies as Martin but would have received the same response, i somehow doubt it.

I wonder if those that agree martin should be behind bars have ever been burgled?
Have they come home to find there rooms upside down, there entire personal possessions strewn around the house and many sellable ones taken from them perhaps being impossible to replace, furniture smashed, vandalised walls, human bodily fluids left in the lounge, would they still be so forgiving towards there intruders? Or would they be tempted to take the law into there own hands especially if you caught them in the act and it wasn't the first time.......

I think his only mistake was to let them live, if they were both dead there would not be many questions asked due to lack of witnesses and whilst the initial sentence on him would have been worse at least it would have been an end to the matter instead of constantly rubbing his nose in it.

Just on another note, how can you claim for loss of earnings from stealing??
Is he going to pay x years back taxes on any amount he wins as i doubt he's put down house breaking on his tax return for the last x years, and also pay all the benefits he's probably been claiming for not working whilst being a self employed thief....

this country has lost it totally.

[Edited by ptholt - 6/14/2003 9:47:31 AM]
Old 14 June 2003, 10:00 AM
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tony martin is NOT a menace to society. **** what mycock says, just take it at face value. if u were in his shoes you would have done the same.

the law protects the scum, why? i don't know.

my view is this - when someone knowingly commits a crime then they forfeit all their civil/human/whatever rights. they cannot delibratly flaut the law then expect the same law to protect them, it is hypocritical - and this sort of **** sends the wrong message to the scum out there. personally, i wish martin had of killed both of them and received no prison sentence, that would send the right message to the theiving *******s.

i'm sorry, but the world we live in is a joke. i don't care if this ******* is traumatised or whatever, his own fault. not gonna listen to pansy therapists and such like, they are just funding their own existance. oh, and do you think this ******* thought up the idea of suing martin? no, that was the bloody lawyers, who clearly have no morals (despite the legal standpoint) and should be disbarred as their actions are just as great a menace to society as that of the theiving scum they represent.

this is not about democracy etc, but plain old common sense and decency.

steven
Old 14 June 2003, 11:20 AM
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Mr Martin had reported many 'break-ins' but nothing ever taken or any evidence of these 'break-ins' found... so either we are dealing with very tidy burglars or the man was/is unstable...

Then when finally his house [read run-down shack] is broken into this walking time bomb kills a 16yo by shooting him in the back... despite being made aware of this childs 'mental age' and his gullibility the murderer is unrepentent... 'throw away the key'... the mans a nutter...

As to barracking the Solicitors acting on behalf of the other pikey that is plain daft... actually petitioning the right authority... the Legal Aid authority is beyond your intelligence isn't it... you see they can throw this out as being 'not in the public interest' and no money spent really... where as the Solicitors merely do as they are asked or requested to do...

That my stupid scooby-nutters is why I think you are stupid in the extreme... you are throwing stones and getting wound up at entirely the wrong people... you are really that dumb... staggering, staggering stupidity... as i said the moron brigade in full swing...

Old 14 June 2003, 12:07 PM
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'you are really that dumb... staggering, staggering stupidity... as i said the moron brigade in full swing...'

As you're prob the only one whose writing in the defence of some Pikey Scum I suggest you're the DUMB one.


Case Dismissed-POPS
Old 14 June 2003, 12:18 PM
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Mycroft-you are a prize idiot!

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Old 14 June 2003, 12:44 PM
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As to barracking the Solicitors acting on behalf of the other pikey that is plain daft... actually petitioning the right authority... the Legal Aid authority is beyond your intelligence isn't it... you see they can throw this out as being 'not in the public interest' and no money spent really... where as the Solicitors merely do as they are asked or requested to do...
True, obviously.
Old 14 June 2003, 12:44 PM
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POPEYE
I am 'not writing in the mans defence' and if I were there would be no disgrace to defend him against the bunch of jerks posting there prejudices on here...

Leslie
Clever riposte... well thought out and very well argued... you should become a Solicitor... hahaha
Old 14 June 2003, 12:50 PM
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Mycroft, you really are a bell end.

Everyones entitled to their own opinions of course, but why do you persist with offending people?

And why oh why do you seem to think you are so above everyone else on this BBS? Please do tell.


ptholt - agree with you....I have been the victim of burglars and criminals several times...I would have no hesitation in defending myself and my property.

[Edited by JohnMcC - 6/14/2003 12:51:20 PM]
Old 14 June 2003, 12:58 PM
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Mycroft, you really are a bell end.
Everyones entitled to their own opinions of course, but why do you persist with offending people?
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I put those together just to see how well the 'fit' with one another...
Kinda nice dontcha think?
Anyway...


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And why oho why do you seem to think you are so above everyone else on this BBS? Please do tell.
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I merely point out that you are no better than the dreadful, ignorant people in Purbrook who recently smashed the windows of the local Paediatricians house 'cos they were too dumb to work out that a Paediatrician is not a Paedophile... you are all to my as dumb and ignorant as that... you are throwing stones at the wrong target andf I have 'exposed' your ignorance...




[Edited by Mycroft - 6/14/2003 12:59:23 PM]
Old 14 June 2003, 01:11 PM
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Dear oh dear Mycroft, you obviously arent that intelligent....!

Yes, I have attacked you but if you read my first post properly I have suggested that you were the one that initiated this bad feeling (see my quotes) and that its why people dislike you and would argue with you indefinitely, even if you made sensible arguments. Read the thread again - you came in calling people effing idiots, morons etc...for having a different opinion to yourself.


Understand now? Thats why we are attacking you.


And whats with your Paediatrician/Paedophile analogy - that is nothing like this case. You seem to keep coming back to paedophiles for some unknown reason.

So I ask again, why are you so superior to the thousands of other SN usere?
Old 14 June 2003, 01:45 PM
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Very Comical mycroft- You'd make a good journalist for the Sunday Sport. LOL

Now please shut up fool!!!


Pops- speaking for the citizens right not Pikey Scum
Old 14 June 2003, 02:15 PM
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Pops- speaking for the citizens right not Pikey Scum
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Pops- talking straight... out of his ahse... hahaha

[Edited by Mycroft - 6/14/2003 2:15:39 PM]
Old 14 June 2003, 08:44 PM
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Mycroft. if your so much of a pikey lover, then maybe you should have a direct debit set up, so you can personaly give the 15k you think the pikey deserves.

Old 14 June 2003, 10:26 PM
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Read it (and not just the front page) and fume, and perhaps even donate. www.tonymartinsupportgroup.org
Old 15 June 2003, 12:58 AM
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Mycroft - I started this thread, not so you could to use it as an excuse to insult people on here, or for you to exercise your obvious ability with a dictionary, but to express my view of, and judging by the supporting response a great deal of other folks' responses, the failing in the British Law in this case.

The very fact that a person can willingly step outside the law (to break in to someone's property), and then know full well that the same system will still support them when they choose to abide by it, makes a mockery of the whole thing.

The law needs changing, to protect the victim, and restrict the "rights" of the criminals. At present, the law is wrong. Plain and simple.

Old 15 June 2003, 01:25 AM
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What's really upsetting is all these stupid people who makes the laws are the ones that you guys voted in...
Old 15 June 2003, 01:59 AM
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i believe he should get knighted by the queen for protecting the land in which we live in. i hate thieves. when i was 15 i bought a Nova (as i said i was 15) to do up for when i was able to drive because i just got a job and had a little bit of cash to spend and i thought this would be a great hobby. well anyway i did put alot of time and effort in to my wee Nova and i loved it it did look riceboy style it had a rally style feel about it with the spot lights with the covers n all on them and the alloys n all. plus all the usually interior goodies which u think are class at that age. well to beable to afford this i had to work 5 days a week all summer then every saturday and as i was only 15 i didnt have it insured.

On new years day i my ma asked me were my car was and i looked out the window it was missing. Luckily the police found it later that day smashed up into the gate of someones house. me and the police man actually had to drag it out of the person gate and up the hill to the garage. the car was stripped and very badly damaged. anyways i had to get a new steering rack n all and some wee bits to the engine (plus i got other wee goodies while it was in the garage for the engine) which cost me more money. but when i got it home i couldnt be fukked even thinking of trying to mod it again cause of all the money i had spent and i just had this gut feeling it would happen again so i sold my pride. so all i can say is thank u to them d1cks like for really giving me a good new years day B A S T A R D S if i ever find out who did it i would kill them cause im not ashamed to admit it when i seen my car smashed up and was looking about it i almost cried not because of the amount of money that i had lost but that it was mine and someone had taken it from me.

so back to my point give the man an award killed one person and in my opinion has stopped this one person being able to breed so that his thieving genes cant be passed on
Old 15 June 2003, 03:25 AM
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Mycroft>

If you think everybody on ScoobyNet is so beneath you, what on earth are you doing here? Can you not find another forum worthy of your intellect? Please!?


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